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Offlineonysik22
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Bigger shrooms?
    #5575201 - 04/30/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am currently at the stage where I have 5 pf cakes in a perlite terrarium. I'm getting shroom growth, but so far the first flush of 2 cakes has been slightly less than what I was looking for( about 2 grams dry per cake). What can I do to increase the size of my shrooms, as it seems that all the forum members are growing shrooms 2, 3 even 4 times as big as mine!

Is it possible that it's an issue of too little humidity? My terrarium has water droplets forming along the bottom 6" of the terrarium, but the rest is dry. Should I raise it to the point where there are water droplets all over the walls of the terrarium, and what else am I possibly doing wrong that would cause shrooms to come out, but not as big as expected?


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: onysik22]
    #5575237 - 04/30/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bigger substrate = bigger mushrooms

maybe strain? i always found cambodians to be small. sure as hell were alot of them though


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: onysik22]
    #5575257 - 04/30/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Try using horse poo as a substrate. You can grow some monsters on the late flushes (they're usually larger, but smaller in number.)


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: BlueRidge]
    #5575270 - 04/30/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

think about the nutrient content. 
The big mushies come from h/poo, grain, and very high nutrient contented substrates.  Your cakes have less than half nutes.  The verm has nothing, the water has nothing, your brf is the only nutrient.  Your humidity is fine, try shooting some distilled water into your cakes in small amounts in lots of places if you're looking for more water to enter the picture.

If you're not ready for the h/poo, try casing.  Here's a super simple suggestion:

popcorn:  soak for 1 hour, drain, simmer for 1 hour, drain and cool for around 30 minutes.  Jar or fp bag it up, pc it at 15psi for 1 hour, cool, open and seal(if a fp bag).

once colonized:  wal-mart tub with 1" perlite and 1/4 to 1/2 water in the bottom, casing on that (1/2 inch), popcorn over the casing (2inches) and 1/2 casing on that, colonize (incubate)

patch and fruit.

Easy and much more effective than the cakes.  You have tons of choices with casing, pick what works best for you.


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5575470 - 04/30/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

even casing brf cakes yeilds more.


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Invisiblemonstermitch
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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: skeletor]
    #5575547 - 04/30/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

first step: cakes

second step: casing cakes

third step: casing trays/tubs

fourth step: bulk substrate

fifth step:  humility

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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5575585 - 04/30/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you really want big shrooms, then just skip straight to bulk.

You could do it like Blue Helix and Wronguy do. Meaning skip the spawn stage and:
-take filter patch autoclavable bags and fill'em with a good horse shit/vermiculite/straw OR coco coir combo (you can really just fuck around with this as much as you like, find the substrate that best suits you),
-sterilize them,
-then knock them up with a 140 cc syringe of LC and wait like 2 weeks till they're fully colonized.
-case them sumbitches and reap the rewards.


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5575637 - 04/30/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Could this be in any way related to temps? I keep my setup at around 70-75 and I just read that ideal would be more like 74-80.


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: onysik22]
    #5575653 - 04/30/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

70-75 is just fine for fruiting mushies. It won't negatively effect fruit size.


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Re: Bigger shrooms? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5575683 - 04/30/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

moisture plays an enormous role. remember your mushrooms are roughly 90% water. did you dunk? if not, try it next time and see the difference for yourself! all those other tips given above are well and good, but aside from all the things different substrates can do for you, the methods used especially including the casing does one very important thing: supply extra moisture.


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