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OfflinegrimR
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Re: Bad Acid [Re: Heffy]
    #5570036 - 04/29/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The fact that drugs are illegal make this the only stance to take when ripped off. You can't take something like this to civil court. But then again, the drug war is big business...


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: grimR]
    #5570526 - 04/29/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Unless they are violent poeple to begin with. Id choose the right moment, and tear them a new one verbally without yelling.

Most people who are into psychedelics are very succeptable to your logical rants if you have alot to say and really mean it(it helps to be pretty damn manipulative when worse comes to worse). If you have some brains and dont want to beat the shit out of the guy who was at worst, just a sad little doink. You can verbally abuse him(no yelling, we know what that might lead to(you kicking his ass by any means possible)).

I have made a drug dealer cry after he sold me 3 hits of fake acid and stole some smokes from me and refused to pay me back at a sort of a party(in front of people).
I WILL NOT kick someones ass over LSD. It just seems too ironic to me.
I have been ripped off for sheets, and this is interesting. The dealer sold the best acid known to man but certainly was too stupid to know it. So he took off out of state with the cash(he had given us what we wanted before when we gave him the cash first).
He planned on never paying him back. Intead of kicking any ass whenever he returned, we made his little brother pay us back in small increments(only way to get the flow back to us), knowing that this guy would not do what he did to his own brother.
Thats the most un-ethical thing I have ever done to someone.
We were right, this older brother figure just simply had to pay back his younger brother as they were frequently in close contact for about a year after that.
Worked like a charm.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: grimR]
    #5570639 - 04/29/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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grimR said:
The fact that drugs are illegal make this the only stance to take when ripped off. You can't take something like this to civil court. But then again, the drug war is big business...




exactly my point. i cant call a fucking cop to settle this. he got what he deserved, i think its fair..


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5570685 - 04/29/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You have mental problems if you think you have the right to beat someone up for trying to rip you off...

I hope next time you try it the guy has a gun...


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5570753 - 04/29/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you want to get your money back, and you know they are the type that doesnt carry a gun Id say shit talk them and make them realize the type of person they were selling to, or beat the shit out of them If you really want your money back that bad.

I would NEVER resort to violence when it comes to drugs and money. But I sure as shit would become verbally abusive without yelling(all the more poignant). If they know that you are on the same level as they are or far above it you can often get your money back with dealers that sell acid. If your getting it from someone who is not the typical or atleast pacifist smoker of the ganja I would hold off even on the verbal assault.
You have got to know your dealer when buying large amounts, mob style but without the violence.
I wouldnt buy lsd from most people who sell it, because they are hipster retards, and that trait meshes way to well with the gangster persona.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5574307 - 04/30/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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You have mental problems if you think you have the right to beat someone up for trying to rip you off...




Are you kidding?

I'd say it was the other way around. You'd have to be mentally ill if you don't feel the need to pound into the dirt, the guy who tried to rob from you. That's what I call crime and punishment.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5574515 - 04/30/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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ExplosiveMango said:
You have mental problems if you think you have the right to beat someone up for trying to rip you off...

I hope next time you try it the guy has a gun...




Yeah good comment, "I hope next time you try it the has a gun."

Perfect, you fucking idiot, let's elevate the situation from fist-to-fist combat and include firearms so somebody can quite possibly get killed.

It is my hope that the neurons of your brain reconnect and begin to conceive things properly, again, that is if they ever worked correctly in the first place.

I bet ExplosiveMango is the bunk acid dealer. I'd kick his ass, too.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5576871 - 05/01/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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ExplosiveMango said:
You have mental problems if you think you have the right to beat someone up for trying to rip you off...

I hope next time you try it the guy has a gun...




Hmm, perhaps you have mental problems if you think someone who ROBS you should get away scratch free. It's the fact that they shouldnt have sold shitty product in the first place. Here i am, trusting some stranger with my money to give me what is expected, and he cheats me.It's the other way around. someone shouldnt even think of ripping someone off that they dont know. for all he knew, I couldve had a gun. hes lucky i didnt, not that i would shoot the guy. but just scare him enough to teach him a lesson and to have him shit his pants :smile:


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577219 - 05/01/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the one time I was ripped off and had a chance to confront the person, I just threw the joint (which was made of pencil shavings) back at him and called him a peice of shit! When his friend who was in the room told him to give me my $10 back I just said "no, you keep it! You obviously need it bad enough that you'll, you'll lie and cheat for it..."

and I left. But if I was big enough to kick anyones' ass, that's probably what I would've done. lol!


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: dr0mni]
    #5578246 - 05/01/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If he had real mushrooms, why the fuck was he selling fake acid? You also said it was weak, weak acid isn't fake. 15 bucks is steep, but the price of LSD isn't the same now. If you get beat, kicking the guys ass is one thing, robbing him makes you just as bad as he is. You sell beat drugs, you deserve an ass whomping, but robbing him makes you just as big of a scumbag. I am used to hearing shit like this in the dope and coke game, not in the psychedelic game. Though if you sell drugs, you are taking a chance.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: dr0mni]
    #5580352 - 05/02/06 04:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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dr0mni said:
the one time I was ripped off and had a chance to confront the person, I just threw the joint (which was made of pencil shavings) back at him and called him a peice of shit! When his friend who was in the room told him to give me my $10 back I just said "no, you keep it! You obviously need it bad enough that you'll, you'll lie and cheat for it..."

and I left. But if I was big enough to kick anyones' ass, that's probably what I would've done. lol!




I would have taken the 10 bucks back and got something to eat.

Pencil shavings? I mean, dude, you didn't think to check the joint before purchasing? I would have, if I'm gunna buy a fucking joint for 10 dollars (granted you probably live in an area with a lesser abundance of weed, obviously, if you're paying 10 bucks per joint) it'd better be some absolutely killer weed. I'd check the joint, give a sniff, open up one end and take a peek inside. Sure as hell wouldn't buy pencil shavings, I'd imagine the joint's consistency would indicate it wasn't marijuana... You didn't think to check? Maybe you're just rolling in cash and simply don't care... dunno.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5580355 - 05/02/06 04:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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If he had real mushrooms, why the fuck was he selling fake acid? You also said it was weak, weak acid isn't fake. 15 bucks is steep, but the price of LSD isn't the same now.




If I'm going to pay 15 dollars for a hit of LSD, it'd better be equal in potency to 3 hits of 5-bucks-a-hit-acid.

I would be absolutely heated to have paid 15 dollars for ineffective LSD.

When people begin profiteering off of LSD, something needs to be addressed.

Everyone has differing methods of dealing with it.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: Herbus]
    #5580439 - 05/02/06 05:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is an interesting topic. :laugh:
For one - I dont think karma solves anything (unfortunately), nice people get as much cancer as anyone else.

I hate violence - the fights I've been in are practicially a guy punching me and me just not doing anything back. With that said I can understand what LSD rules did.

With drug dealers there are no rules - If he's selling to drug takers he better be prepared to handle what they do if he pisses them off.
He must have known that this was a possible outcome, and he took the risks and lost. If you cant handle the heat.....
If it were me, I'd have held him up - taken my money back and maybe a bit extra to show him that its not worth it.

Unfortunately ethics doesnt have much to do with it - its a dog eat dog world out there and radioheads karma police are at the donut shop.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: Herbus]
    #5580684 - 05/02/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LSD is just like any other drug, the fact that I pay less money for better coke doesn't change the fact that if I get garbage coke, I'm gonna be pissed, but if its real you can only complain. The LSD game is the same, its supply and demand and the supply isn't there so don't expect to pay 5 bucks for it unless you know people. Especially on the east coast. I haven't even seen LSD in over 4 months and a year before that. That is why it goes for 15 bucks a hit some places. If someone sold me beat drugs I would kick his ass and leave the shit on him, though I would take my money back and whatever fake drugs he had. Unless he had more back than me.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: Feelers]
    #5581780 - 05/02/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm. It's nice to see that many people agree with my actions. But I just want to point out that I AM NOT a violent person. Im a pretty nice, reasonable guy....kinda. But if some punk ROBS me of my trust AND money, hes not going to walk away. No one will get anywhere in life if you dont step up for yourself. Get your message across to others that they shouldnt fuck with you. If you dont do anything, others will just conclude that you're a pushover lil shit and you might continue to get ripped off, because people know they can get away with it. Keep things honest and problems like this wont happen.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5581847 - 05/02/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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If he had real mushrooms, why the fuck was he selling fake acid? You also said it was weak, weak acid isn't fake.




Also, I never said it was fake acid. I clearly said it was bunk acid. $15 for a tab of LSD that doesnt do shit. After we took the rest of the sheets he had, i had taken about 20 hits or so and felt buzzed. That was it.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5582080 - 05/02/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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for all he knew, I could've had a gun. hes lucky i didn't, not that i would shoot the guy. but just scare him enough to teach him a lesson and to have him shit his pants :smile:




Meh, IMHO thats a bad idea. If you're gonna pull a gun or weapon of any kind on somebody, you damn well better be ready to shoot, and kill, them. They're not toys and they're not for play acting. Escalating a situation to that level is serious shit and people die because of it. Doing so needlessly is foolish. And like I said before, so is burning someone in the drug game. People fall hard for doing that kinda shit and I've known plenty of folks who would've lit him up for pulling that. I don't think 15 bux is worth killing someone over, but some people are a bit more flexible in their morals.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: wiggles]
    #5582096 - 05/02/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm gonna agree that you shouldn't just assault someone, if they give you your money back. If he had told you to fuck off and laughed at you, then you beat the crap out of him, it'd be justifiable, but you should have just gotten your money back and had him through away the bunk shit, not steal his stuff. That's pretty messed, even I wouldn't go that far.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: Maverick]
    #5582354 - 05/02/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

But that is exactly what happend. Obviously you didnt read the other posts. He DID NOT give back the money voluntarily. I confronted the guy and he would not give back our money. We gave him a chance. He fucked up too many times for me to resort to a peaceful resolution. 1st: he sells bunk shit that he knew was shit at a very steep price. 2nd: choosing NOT to refund our money for his shitty product. He put himself in a very dangerous position. Either this fool has some serious thrill issues, or is just plain retarded.


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Re: Bad Acid [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5582804 - 05/02/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bunk acid is the same as fake acid. If someone says an E pill is bunk it means that its fake, at least this is how I always heard it. If the LSD was weak then what you did was scumbag, your lucky it was some pussy or else you woulda got your ass shot. He didn't make the LSD first off and 2nd, your the person that made the decision to buy it, a lot of the LSD you buy nowadays at shows (in NJ,NY area) is fake, be happy it was even real.


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