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First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision
    #5568666 - 04/28/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision
April 28, 2006 - clickpress.com

Craig X Rubin founded temple420.org as a result of the landmark Supreme Court Case ?Gonzales vs. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal?. In a unanimous decision (8-8) The Supreme Court's Chief Justice Roberts delivered the opinion that, ... "religious freedom is more important than drug laws."

Craig X Rubin, a leading proponent for ending the prohibition on Marijuana, has launched www.temple420.org the first legal Marijuana church. Craig X Rubin founded temple420.org as a result of the landmark Supreme Court Case ?Gonzales vs. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal?.

In this historic case, with Chief Justice Roberts delivering the opinion, the high Court ruled in a unanimous decision (8-0) that:

?The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, requires the government to permit the importation, distribution, possession, and use of a Schedule I hallucinogenic controlled substance, even when Congress has found that the substance has a high potential for abuse, it is unsafe for use even under medical supervision, and its importation and distribution would violate an international treaty. Marijuana is a Schedule I hallucinogenic controlled substance. Therefore, the Supreme Court has ruled that religious freedom is more important than drug laws.?

temple420.org?s first order of business is signing up new members nationwide via its web site. For a limited time new members receive a lifetime membership to the temple for $100, which protects them from prosecution in all 50 states. ?Our members will never be convicted of marijuana possession again,? said founder Craig X Rubin. ?Marijuana is basically legalized at the federal level since religious pot is now protected by the Constitution, unlike medical marijuana, which is only protected by local jurisdictions. I have dedicated my life to ending the prohibition of Marijuana and I have finally had my day in court.?

Additional Information:
Craig X Rubin, in addition to being a recognized and respected leader in the legal Marijuana industry, is a writer, SAG comedian and has made guest appearances on the show ?Weed.? He recently wrote the book ?90210 Grow?.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: veggie]
    #5568699 - 04/28/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Is this for real?


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: shroomydan]
    #5568714 - 04/28/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I sure want it to be!


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: mikeownow]
    #5568722 - 04/28/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

More imput plzzzz


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: mikeownow]
    #5568741 - 04/28/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing showed up about this on a google search, only something about the supreme court ruling against medical marijuana. I read the www.temple420.org page. They love Jesus, so they're alright with me.  :smile:


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: shroomydan]
    #5568748 - 04/28/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: mikeownow]
    #5568848 - 04/28/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

For a LIMITED TIME ONLY, you can sign up. Wow, sounds way too scammy.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: whatever123]
    #5568971 - 04/28/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ahh my god dont even both posting that shit of course thats not real.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: whatever123]
    #5568987 - 04/28/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

this is bullshit


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: veggie]
    #5569102 - 04/28/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Seems too good to be true.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: dblaney]
    #5569280 - 04/29/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That is BS.... You can't do that. It's legal for special religions but to be a religion it needs a certain amount of people and have to have proof that you do worship something not just smoke weed.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: veggie]
    #5569655 - 04/29/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Tea Case Could Cause Religious Liberty Tempest
http://www.religionlink.org/tip_051031b.php

On Tuesday the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a small religious group that combines Christianity and Native American practices can use hallucinogenic tea in its ceremonies. The core of the case ? what happens to the First Amendment right to freely exercise religion when it conflicts with federal law ? could change the rules for every religious group in America. A wide variety of religious groups ? from conservative to liberal ? representing millions of members have filed briefs supporting O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal, or UDV as it is known.

The case is the first religious freedom case to be decided under Chief Justice John Roberts. The court ruled that the U.S. government had no right to seize tea from the church or to ban its use.

UDV is a small Brazilian religious sect that has about 10,000 members in the United States, where they are based in New Mexico. Members use a hallucinogenic tea during worship ceremonies in order to help them gain union with God. The case, Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal, began when federal agents seized the tea, which is classified as a controlled substance. The case is considered pivotal for several reasons:
? It has the potential to change the precedent from a landmark 1990 Supreme Court case involving the use of peyote for ceremonial purposes. That ruling ? in Employment Division v. Smith ? changed the prevailing legal test for free exercise cases. Before the case, the state had to prove it had a ?compelling interest? that trumped a religious group?s First Amendment right to exercise its religion. In Smith, the court ruled that as long as a law didn?t target a religious group and was generally applicable to the whole population ? in this case, a law that banned use of peyote ? it was acceptable, even if it unintentionally affected one group, such as Native Americans, more than others. Many religious groups were outraged, fearing that, say, if a legislature banned wine on Sunday then Roman Catholics who used it at Mass would have no redress under the First Amendment ? instead, they would have to persuade the legislature to pass a special exemption for them.
? The case is considered a test of the RFRA federal law, passed in 1993, which restored the compelling-interest test and said it should apply in all cases where religious exercise is substantially burdened. In 1997, the Supreme Court ruled that RFRA doesn?t apply to state and local governments. Religious liberty advocates fear that the Supreme Court could rule in the UDV case that RFRA doesn?t apply to federal law, either, significantly reducing protections for religious adherents.
? Legal experts say any ruling in the UDV case that steers religious groups toward legislative remedies in free exercise cases while reducing their constitutional options would have profound effects, particularly for minority faiths. Larger groups ? Roman Catholics or evangelicals -- would likely have an easier time marshalling support for legislative protection for faith practices, while smaller groups ? particularly those with less mainstream practices ? would likely have a much harder time getting legislative support. Free exercise of religion, in effect, could become a popularity contest if its main protection rested in legislative remedies, legal experts say.

Why it matters

The right to free exercise of religion is a bedrock value of the First Amendment. It is held in tension with Americans? right to be free from the government establishing one religion over another.


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IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING USE OF THE TEA
? O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal's U.S. base is in Santa Fe, N.M. The group prefers that the media contact it via email, udvbr@opengate.com.br.
? Nancy Hollander of Freedman, Boyd, Daniels, Hollander & Goldberg in Albuquerque, N.M., is the attorney representing the UDV. Contact 505-842-9960.
? Mark E. Chopko is general counsel for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D.C., which filed an amicus brief in support of UDV. The brief says there are severe negative consequences for religion if UDV loses its case. Contact 202-541-3300.
? Gene K. Schaerr is counsel of record for an amicus curiae supporting UDV that represents 17 religious organizations, including the National Association of Evangelicals, the Baptist Joint Committee, the Institute on Religion and Public Policy, the First Church of Christ Scientist, the Union for Reform Judaism, the Sikh Coalition and the Muslim Minaret of Freedom Institute. Read an excerpt of the brief posted by UDV with links to the full brief. Contact Schaerr in Washington, D.C., 202-282-5000.
? Anthony Picarello Jr. filed an amicus brief supporting UDV on behalf of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. Contact 202-955-0095.
? Lee Boothby is a lawyer and vice president of the International Academy for Freedom of Religion and Belief. His organization has filed an amicus brief in support of UDV. Contact 202-363-1773.
? Kelly Shackelford is chief counsel for the Liberty Legal Institute, a Texas law firm that works to preserve religious freedom. His firm filed an amicus brief in support of UDV. Contact 972-423-3131.
? Jeremy Gunn is director of the American Civil Liberties Union's new Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief. The ACLU has filed an amicus brief in support of UDV. Contact 212-549-2500, media@aclu.org.
? Gregory Baylor is director of the Christian Legal Society and says outlawing sacramental tea is the equivalent of banning the wine served at a Roman Catholic Mass. Contact 703-642-1070, clshq@clsnet.org.

AGAINST ALLOWING USE OF THE TEA
? Paul D. Clement is a solicitor general for the U.S. Department of Justice and represents the government in the case. Contact 202-514-2217.
? Marci A. Hamilton is a professor of public law at the Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University in New York. She opposes the UDV because she contends that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act usurps the U.S. Supreme Court's power to interpret the establishment clause. She represents people who are suing Roman Catholic archdioceses for alleged sex abuse by priests and contends that some church defendants are using the act to prevent federal bankruptcy laws from being applied to them in ways that would require them to compensate victims. She wrote the book God vs. the Gavel: Religion and the Rule of Law (Cambridge University Press, 2005). Contact 212-790-0215, hamilton02@aol.com.
? Annie Laurie Gaylor is co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, an educational group based in Madison, Wis., that promotes the separation of church and state. Gaylor says the UDV case causes concern because a religious group is seeking to be exempt from the law by using an illegal substance and, she says, offering it to minors. Contact 608-256-8900, algaylor@ffrf.org (phone preferred).

ACADEMIC
? Derek Davis directs the J.M. Dawson Institute of Church-State Studies at Baylor University in Waco, Texas. He says there are dangers in allowing religious freedom to be left in the hands of state legislatures, as it was in the 1990 Smith peyote case, or in the hands of Congress, as it could be depending on the outcome of the tea case. He co-edited the book New Religious Movements and Religious Liberty in America, Second Edition (J.M. Dawson Institute of Church-State Studies, 2002). Contact 254-710-1510, Derek_davis@baylor.edu.
? Charles C. Haynes, senior scholar for religious freedom at the Freedom Forum First Amendment Center in Arlington, Va., says if the Supreme Court decides that the RFRA law does not apply to the federal government, it would be another strong blow that helps erase the free exercise clause from the First Amendment. Contact 703-284-2859, chaynes@freedomforum.org.
? John Witte Jr. is a professor of law and ethics and director of the Law and Religion Program at the school of law at Emory University in Atlanta. He wrote the book Religion and the American Constitutional Experiment: Essential Rights and Liberties, Second Edition (Westview Press, 2004). Contact 404-727-6980, jwitte@law.emory.edu.


Background

THE UDV TEA CASE
? Read the petition to the U.S. Supreme Court in Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal.
? The UDV religion in the United States has a web page with resources for covering the case, including a FAQ and background links.
? Read the First Amendment Center's resource page on Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal. It includes amicus briefs filed for both sides of the case.
? Read Northwestern University's Medill resource page on Gonzales v. UDV.
? Georgetown University's law school presented a moot court exercise based on the tea case in August 2005. Read a summary of the arguments in the case.

OTHER LEGAL BACKGROUND
? Read the First Amendment Center's article on the free exercise clause, which includes a discussion of how Employment Division v. Smith, the 1990 peyote case, changed the legal precedent for religious groups whose practices conflict with state law.
? Read about the legal status of peyote, including the 1993 federal statute that allowed members of the Native American Church to ingest peyote as part of religious ceremonies and state laws granting exemptions for Native Americans' ceremonial use of peyote. The information is posted by the Peyote Foundation.
? Read the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in the 1990 peyote case, Employment Division, Oregon Department of Human Resources v. Smith 494 U.S. 872.
? The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life offers resources for covering the UDV case.


ARTICLES
? See an Oct. 31, 2005, Christian Science Monitor story about the UDV case.
? Read a June 2005 article about the tea case posted by Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
? Read a June 24, 2004, Associated Press story about the Utah Supreme Court ruling that non-native Americans can use peyote in religious ceremonies. The article is posted by the First Amendment Center.
? Read an April 19, 2005, Christian Science Monitor article on the UDV case.
? Read the April 19, 2005, article "Religious-tea dispute brings RFRA back to high court" from the First Amendment Center.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: shroomydan]
    #5570612 - 04/29/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This has been around for quite some time I myself well over a year ago maybe 2 sign up to be an ordained minister then I realized this may well be a way for LEO to get us on a "list" as they wanted us to verify that we intent to continue the cultivate as well as use cannabis on a regular basis. I say use your heads guys!


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: hyphae]
    #5570629 - 04/29/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do what I do, use a fake address on all forms. My licence is always a state behind.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: veggie]
    #5583542 - 05/02/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

As cool as this may sound, I hope it is not true, because they would be piggybacking on the success of the "Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal" case. This is a group of people who use a moderate amount of huasca in their religious ceremonies, and treat halucinagens with respect. A church that uses their protection to justify marijuana smoking will get bad publicity and threatens to overturn the decision and perhaps even threaten the Native American peyote rituals that have (miraculously) survived.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: CUBErt]
    #5583688 - 05/02/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I like how it costs money to be part of a religion


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: drSE]
    #5584696 - 05/03/06 07:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

in the bible it says "let every seed bearing herb be free"

thats religion enough for me :spliff:


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5585518 - 05/03/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

God says no churches, marijuana or otherwise

"Worship in your Closet" Jesus said.

"Lift a stone and you will find me, turn a leaf and I am there" God Said.

I'd rather be on teh bad side of teh law than teh bad side of God. especially with the way the world is turning these days. Peace

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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5588215 - 05/03/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomieOfDoomie said:
in the bible it says "let every seed bearing herb be free"

thats religion enough for me :spliff:




Those kinds of passages in the Bible are kinda fun to use against fundamentalist Christians. There is that one, another one about God providing herb for the service of man, and my favorite for justifying mushrooms: "Jesus summoned the crowd and said to them, 'hear and understand, it is not what goes into one's mouth that defiles that person, but what comes out of one's mouth is what defiles them.'"
Now of course, I don't think any of these passages were written in regards to drugs but I like taking one and saying "see, God provided herbs for us" or "Jesus didn't care if we dropped mushrooms, so long as we are nice to each other." The person in response will look at you with outrage and say something like "That is taken entirely out of context!" And then you can sit back and smile and recount every Bible verse that they have done the same thing with.
Its fun being a smartass  :grin:


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: CUBErt]
    #5589917 - 05/04/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"And God caused the bud of the sweet herb to spring forth." I think thats in Job.

"Jesus summoned the crowd and said to them, 'hear and understand, it is not what goes into one's mouth that defiles that person, but what comes out of one's mouth is what defiles them.'"

That line has nothing to do with mushrooms it is saying that eating foods deemed "unclean" by the jews does not defile a man, as outlined in the Old Testament, but his word can defile him so. I dont know how you see that as a mushroom justification.

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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: blaze2]
    #5590469 - 05/04/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You didn't read my whole post or didn't read it carefully. I know it has nothing to do with mushrooms. But if you take it out of context and say that it does, the fundamentalist Christian will obviously say that is ridiculous and that it is taken out of context (which it is). But at that point you can remind them of everything they have taken out context in order to tell you why you are going to hell.
It isn't meant to justify drugs, it is a way to show Bible thumpers how anyone can twist words of the Bible for their own benefit.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: veggie]
    #5591524 - 05/04/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

And why should my choice of religion, or lack thereof, come into play when deciding whether or not I am allowed to consume marijuana, or any other substance?
I say fuck your marijuana "church", Craig X, you fucking half-wit twat. I already pay my elected officials enough to misrepresent me, why should I pay another assclown $100 for bullshit lies?


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: DNKYD]
    #5591662 - 05/04/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Who cares what you think DNKYD . Your post is off topic.
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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: blaze2]
    #5591688 - 05/04/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The best one has been removed from the Protestant bibles, but we Catholics still have it.

From the Book of Wisdom:
Quote:

Court not death by your erring way of life, nor draw to yourselves destruction by the works of your hands.
Because God did not make death, nor does he rejoice in the destruction of the living.
For he fashioned all things that they might have being; and the creatures of the world are wholesome, And there is not a destructive drug among them nor any domain of the nether world on earth,
For justice is undying.



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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: shroomydan]
    #5591760 - 05/04/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How the fuck is my post "off topic"?

The topic is marijuana churches, right? Lay off the herb.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: DNKYD]
    #5591893 - 05/04/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I DNKYD has a right to express his disguest with this abuse of God's Word.

And SHroomyDAn,

THe catholics put that book in there in the first place it wasnt there before the Catholics Burned the OTHER half of the bible that didn't suit their beliefs, along with burning anyone with the other half deemed "Non-canon" Just liek the nazis.

Just thought everyone might like a history lesson after Shroomydan's little quote up there. The Protestants took it back out because while they couldnt magicly make the other half of their bible reappear they could certainly remove teh false books the catholics had added 400 years after christ, from their own.

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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: blaze2]
    #5594810 - 05/05/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Your right about opinions blaze2. Everyone has a right to his own opinion. It would be nice however if people could refrain from expressing their opinions with vulgarity and flames when they post in civilized forums.

I suppose everyone is also entitled to his own opinion about deutero-canonical books as well. But there is a difference between fact and opinion. Your opinion dose not correspond to historical fact. This of course is not the place to discuss the matter, as there is already at least one thread in P&S dealing with the topic. I think that you and I can agree that the book of Wisdom is included in the Catholic cannon and not included in the Protestant cannon. My post was only to bring this fact to the attention of those reading this post who maybe didn't already know about the book of Wisdom.


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Re: First Legal Marijuana Church Launches Due To Landmark Supreme Court Decision [Re: shroomydan]
    #5595754 - 05/05/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

who can claim they know christ or God while abiding by teh false rules of the annymous forums the like of which we post on?

And I do not retract my truth that teh catholics burned half of the bible and the protestents could only remove the mistakes of teh catholics and not replace thier lost scripture. As that IS historical fact my friend. Your right eth book of wisdom isnt in protest bibles, because it is a false book .

come on man.

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