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WTF is this mushroom affliction? *pics*
    #5568257 - 04/28/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

EDIT: It appears as though I'm just conversing with myself in this thread, but oh well, I'll post the pics anyways.

I currently only have one casing going. It was something of an experiment, first time trying a lot of things, and unfortunately my casing layer contamed a bit and I had one of the worst pinsets in the history of mycology, like maybe 7-10 shrooms on a surface area of like 18"x12". Oh well, you live and learn, right? right. Well the thing is, these few mushies that are growing are MASSIVE, which contributes to my not minding the fact that the casing was a failure. I'm serious, there are probably like 4 of them that are like 60-70+ wet grams.





And my personal favorite...


But anyways, onto the question. The first mushie that started growing was leagues ahead of all the others, by a good full day or so of growth. But now it's been a good two days since that one has grown any. I expected the cap to open and veil to break by yesterday. It's worrying me because generally mushroom caps are nice and firm to the touch.. but this cap is someone mushy. It's kinda like the feel of a slight bruise on a peach. Nothing major, but definitely not the picture of health.




Anyone know what's up with it? It's much too early for it to be rotting, especially since it never even opened up and broke its veil. The humidity is rather low, could that be a contributing factor? Temperature is room temp. Light source is a night light on a 12/12 schedule. Substrate is 75%poo/15%verm/10%coir, casing is 50/50 peat/verm with a touch of coir and calcium carbonate. I believe that's all the pertinant info, lemme know what you think.


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5570025 - 04/29/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No input whatsoever? I've got an update on the mushroom in question. It's shriveling like mad. It's lost maybe 30% of its original size. The fruit connected to it via cluster has also visibly shrunk. Anyone have a clue what's afflicting my mushies?


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5570768 - 04/29/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Come on.. anyone? I've gone and harvested the mushrooms. Three of them were afflicted with whatever that illness is. So I suppose i'm just going to toss them.

Luckily, there are still like 5 that are still healthy looking. 4 of which are MASSIVE, the smallest of which is at least 50g wet, since it overloads the scale i'm using that has a 50g weight limit. My 100g scale is on the fritz. I'll have pictures in a bit, but i'd still like to know what's wrong w/ these ugly ones.

The caps now have a leathery exterior texture with a mushiness underneath. The edges of the caps have turned black. I tore them apart to further examine them and it looks like the blackness extened to the top of the stem, but not down any. Someone let me know what's up.


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5570803 - 04/29/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldn't consume them


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: BPJohnny]
    #5571144 - 04/29/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well yeah, I know that much. That's why I said "I suppose i'm just going to toss them"

But i'd still like to know what the deal was. I've never seen it before. I have no idea what it was. I'm sure some of the older hands must have an idea. Please?


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5572057 - 04/29/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alright well now that I've uploaded these pics, this is my last bump of the thread. If anyone has any clue what's wrong w/ those poor mushies, let me know.

Even if you don't know what's up, enjoy the pics of my monsters.


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5572082 - 04/29/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe some sort of bacteria like bacterial blotch or something similar?



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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: BPJohnny]
    #5573398 - 04/30/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In my opinion

Those are edible, I would not chuck them.
My theory is they get so big, the 'root' network to the substrate gets disconnected. So they quit getting bigger. It happens. You may also have that parasite that splits stems. Not toxic. Maybe the spawn is trying to grow new pins now.

This is pretty unqualified but, give them the max FAE you can and wait for next flush. Don't be stingy with the humidity. See what happens.

There is nothing wrong with just a few monster shrooms. Easier to pick right?


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: gotyerback]
    #5573412 - 04/30/06 07:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Verticillium. Just boil the mushrooms before eating and they'll be fine. Work on your pasteruization tek. It's a soil inhabiting imperfect fungus. Proper pasteurization will take care of it. If you did pasteurize properly, perhaps you have houseplants nearby, or you could have handled garden plants/soil, then came inside and transferred it to your substrate that way.
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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5573890 - 04/30/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alright guys, thanks for the help, especially you RR. I feel much better now that it has been positively IDed and I know where I went wrong.

As for the boiling, should I boil all fruit I pick from this casing, or just the ones that appear afflicted?

Oh and gotyer, I'm about 95% sure that my caps are splitting because of low humidity. I haven't been pampering this casing at all, and I know it's dry as a bone in there.


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5574027 - 04/30/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hm....does anyone remember who it was that grew the 80 gram shroom in my avatar?
I am wondering if I should replace it with one of your pics.
Very nice, mi amigo!


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: whatever123]
    #5574030 - 04/30/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

80 wet? That is weak sauce lol. My avatars was like 200


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: mikeownow]
    #5574036 - 04/30/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

look at the pic. And no one said it was wet......but it was :tongue:


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: whatever123]
    #5574050 - 04/30/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)







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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: mikeownow]
    #5574061 - 04/30/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5574115 - 04/30/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Grr yea well myn are not infected so =P


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: mikeownow]
    #5574174 - 04/30/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so wouldnt boiling the mushrooms kill all the good stuff?


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: mikeownow]
    #5574176 - 04/30/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

heh.. yeah, you've got me beat there. But the funny thing is, these are easily my biggest ever, yet I paid them the least attention. I didn't mist or properly sterilize the casing layer (which REALLY bit me in the ass btw). But yeah, I learned a lot from this one, and got some monsters too.


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Re: odd mushroom behavior [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5574736 - 04/30/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I believe that it is possible for a mushroom to abort at any time in it's life cycle. Not just when it is a pin. Since it stopped growing, and you did not pick it, it is possible that mushroom aborted and has started to rote. That is my best guess. As to weather or not you can eat the mushroom, I don't know. If you cut it open and it is not rotten in the middle and is of the same consistency as a not rotten mushroom, then you are safe. I hope this makes sense.


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