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OfflineJazzSession
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ShroomShaker - Some questions
    #5566037 - 04/28/06 05:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everyone !

I decided to begin "planting" my own mushrooms, so I bought a ShroomShaker and would like to have some opinions about it.

Also have some questions:

- Since almost everything is done, is there any way to improve que mushrooms' "quality" or even quantity ?

- The webpage says: "The size of the mushrooms, when you pick it, is not important. The final weight in mushrooms will still be 250-300 gram." ---- Is it possible to make a print and keep them growing on another jar ?

Sorry for my english .. Portuguese is my main language.

Thanks in advance,
Jazz


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: JazzSession]
    #5566044 - 04/28/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

your english is fine...better than most.
the only thing you can do to improve quality/quantity is to ensure optimal growing conditions and use proper medium. FAE, humidity, temp, lighting, etc... If you can use horse poo to grow with that would give you some potent mushies.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: ebass]
    #5566566 - 04/28/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the reply ebass !

What does FAE means ?

Do different strains need different growing conditions ? I bought Orissa India, by the way.

Jazz.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: JazzSession]
    #5566636 - 04/28/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

FAE means Fresh Air Exchange, basically keeping the C02 from building up.

Different strains can have slightly different growing conditions, but unless you go to a different speries of psilly shrooms they're all relatively similar.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: Festivus]
    #5656118 - 05/21/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hello again !

So I bought the shroomshaker and made everything as said on the web page.

The problem is .. I inoculated the spores on 10/05 and today 21/05 have already passed 11 days and I see almost no mycelium. Only a little at the bottom of the jar.

Here are some pictures for anyone to see what's going wrong:

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This is the box where the shroomshaker is.


Inside the box. - It has some water at the bottom and a thermostat to keep it warm. [The watter bottle has no cut at the bottom so the water is never in contact with the shroomshaker.]


Lateral view.


The jar's base.


Base close-up.


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- Do you notice any strange thing on the mycelium ?

- The mycelium is a little liquid. When i turn the jar it kinda flows down.

- The humidity inside the shaker is normal ?

Thank you.
Alice.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: JazzSession]
    #5656145 - 05/21/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My good sir, that last pic you showed of the bottom close up is classic wet spot, or bacterial blotch, this is why you are showing no signs of mycellium, your jar is contaminated, also the 250-300grams count they mean is in WET numbers which when properly dried is roughly an ounce of dried mushrooms, good enough to get about 8-15 people very high. There is no way to save the jar now, i would go back to where you bought your kit and show them those pictures and demand a refund, try growing your own via the PF tek first found on this website, buy a spore syringe from one of our sponsors and maybe you will get better results. Relying on kits is quite a pain in the ass. Need any other help feel free and PM me or post here.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: GregHimself]
    #5656204 - 05/21/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that last pic looks a little iffy. I would also recommend the PF tek it is very easy and cheap to make happen


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: GregHimself]
    #5656212 - 05/21/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

another person failing with grow kits.

the shroomshaker. Funny.

you have a bacterial infection.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: GregHimself]
    #5656214 - 05/21/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, if you forward that high-res pic along to whoever sold you the kit, you should be golden for a refund.
In the meantime, start over. You'll see the difference immediately once you see mycelium growing and you'll never forget this lesson in bacteria.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: Jack_Straw]
    #5656316 - 05/21/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

God damn it !

So this shaker has no salvation, right ?

If I want to use the white box again for the same purpose, can I do it or is it also contamined ?

Thank you.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: JazzSession]
    #5656389 - 05/21/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

clean the box out wityh bleach, it should be fine, but the kit is non-salvagable


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: GregHimself]
    #5656411 - 05/21/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

box thing should be fine.

just the jar.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: monstermitch]
    #5656451 - 05/21/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, that's definitely contaminated. Throw it out. GregHimself and monstermitch, that could possibly be bacteria but it's much more likely a yeast.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: fastfred]
    #5656545 - 05/21/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This might sound stupid but do you think the contamination could be caused because there's water surrounding the shaker ? It's not in direct contact with it but it's in the same big box.


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Re: ShroomShaker - Some questions [Re: JazzSession]
    #5656648 - 05/21/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Standing water is a good source for contaminants to grow and live in. I avoid it whenever possible. Your contamination was probably there from the start and I don't see any way that your setup directly caused the contamination.


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The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed

"If we are going to have a war on marijuana, the least we can do is pull the sick and the dying off the battlefield." -Neal Levine (MPP)

I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid


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