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shroomydan
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Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes [ovoideocystidiata] Found in Ohio [Fall fruit photo added 28NOV06] 1
#5564657 - 04/27/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edit: I originally IDed these as P. caerulipes, but they are actually P. Ovoideocystidiata.
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Edited by shroomydan (06/17/07 07:25 PM)
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eris
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Holy crap! 
You finally found em!
Congrats
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: eris]
#5564755 - 04/27/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Today I found what I have been searching for for the last 7 years!
psilocybe caerulipes
thousands of them
I also had the last class of my undergradute career today, and I decided that the really hot twenty-one year old girl I have been seeing is my beloved sister. OhioBlueBell, this is not the patch I showed you. These are authentic-wild Psilocybe caerulipes from Belmont county Ohio.
Eris, this is the most awsome year of my life!
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Awesome that you found them in Ohio. Perhaps you are the first!
Ever since I had bought a copy of PMOTW a long time ago, and was really into actives I've had interest in finding those. In all of the years of going on excursions I came up empty.
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Wow amazing finds. Please fill us in on some details.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: eris]
#5564818 - 04/27/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think this is the first find from Ohio but these are the best pictures I have seen of Psilocybr caerulipes.
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Holy Shit shroomydan! I just made a post telling some guy how rare these things were. Talk about a crazy coincidence.
You're the 5th person I've seen post them in 5 years. 1 caerulipes find a year, and you got it this year
Its nice to see some high quality pics of these bastids. I was almost 100% convinced that they were the same mushroom as weilii. Your pics make it obvious that they're not. They've got a veil and the patterning on the stem only goes up to the veil, as apposed to all the way on weilii.
Do they have a very distinct, musky smell?
Can you give us a detailed account of their habitat?
I'm fucking amazed. Good work shroomydan!
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: Gumby]
#5564863 - 04/27/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Gumby
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From above, they look so much like weilii it's not even funny.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: Gumby]
#5564950 - 04/27/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very pretty mushrooms weilii and caerulipes.. I think distinction between species may be more a matter of degree rather than kind.
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Its ok dude just calm down. Also try to maintain your seances during the typing process so its more suitable for other readers.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: DaveTX]
#5565154 - 04/27/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Congratulations! I'm no hunter (nothing really to hunt in Colorado) but those look simply amazing. I love coming to the Hunting forum and seeing this kind of amazing stuff. Good find!
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Truly breath taking, they are very similar in many ways to the Weilii but many differences as well. The younger specimens look more like the weilii than the older ones but true gumby a much more solid veil with a stem veil remnant. Awsome and congrats shroomy.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: phishhead]
#5565232 - 04/27/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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by the way MORE PICTURES!!!!!!!
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Hey shroomydan, WOW  Congrats on your long awaited find, those specimens are awesome. Can you get any micro pics to show spores and cystidia? that would be really interesting  btw what were they fruiting from? Nice veils!!! inski
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Great score shroomydan. I think in the back of everyones head, they have a few key speicies they'd like to find sometime in their life. Looks like you can cross this one off the list. Congrats!
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I thought you were on about Lepista nuda there for a second...
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: Amatoxin]
#5566107 - 04/28/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great finds were you near a river, creek, lake etc...?
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: Mead]
#5566109 - 04/28/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Near a creek. I'm headed back out there now and hopefully will be back with some better pictures.
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wow
what kind of trees did you find them near? what were they fruiting from? describe the terrain please
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 Holy Shit!!!^^^ Pre-dried  hmmm pick and save? or pick and eat? Sweet Find!! ThanX 4 The Pics
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Very nice indeed. I am just glad that you didn't have a heart attack when you made that find. The boards wouldn't be the same with out you. Please do provide more habitat details.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: baycafe]
#5566844 - 04/28/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amazingly beautiful finds!!! In my reality that is the kind of find that stops the indolent afternoon presses. *adding my plea to the swell of pleas for more information on habitat and photos* 
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I don't have the time to write a detailed post right now, but here are a few more pics.
These mushrooms grow from woody debris burried in sandy dirt.
Habitat 1 along the banks of a small streem.

Habitat 2. In grassy area upland from stream, but still in 100 year flood plane.

Baby blue foot and a toad.

Blue Foot
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Beautiful looking area. Great new pics.. I feel excited yet jealous at the same time .
Great work shroomydan. Patience pays off!
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: eris]
#5567552 - 04/28/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks eris. I will make a detailed post when I find the time. It's finals week.
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UNBELIEVABLE pics man, wow Ive been waitin all day to see ur new post and it was so worth the wait. Let me just congradulate you on prolly the best photographed patches of blue foot probably anyone has seen. I know you must be so excited i would be, Have you printed alot of them? Make sure you do Dan the man they are very valuable as far as rarety goes. Anyways man keep the info coming and thanks for the detailed habitat pictures I am sure it will really help other people, they are supposed to grow also in Georgia and im definatley gonna start looking.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: phishhead]
#5568165 - 04/28/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are really nice pics..what kind of camera is that? I'm thinking of upgrading for next year.
Also, it's fascinating to see this in the midwest. It wasn't long ago nobody had heard of that. I remember my first find was like that many years ago. Huge field of liberty caps as far as the eye can see. You never forget your first time 
The most interesting thing for me is the surroundings photos, along a creek. Never have been that way, but MJ's page says woodchips, just like out there. It almost looks wild, certainly more wild than many Bay Area spots.
Then again, it's certainly possible somebody dumped woodchips out there many years ago. I'll bet if you stick your finger down below those leaves there might be some remnants of old chips. Are those second growth trees along the stream there?.
Even better, it might be interesting to find out what this area was, say, 20 years ago.
And most important, it looks like a nice out of the way and safe place to pick, someplace you can probably call your own for years to come. Someplace that's not in front of the damn freeway with hundreds of cars driving by and honking and waving at you, like out here sometimes...haha
Thanks for sharing those photos
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beautiful pics shroomydan.
congrats on the find.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: auweia]
#5568468 - 04/28/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are really nice pics..what kind of camera is that? I'm thinking of upgrading for next year.
Thanks auweia It's a Canon Powershot A70. I really want to upgrade to an A620 which looks and feels the same but has 8 mega-pixels.
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Also, it's fascinating to see this in the midwest. It wasn't long ago nobody had heard of that. I remember my first find was like that many years ago. Huge field of liberty caps as far as the eye can see. You never forget your first time
It's not exactly my first time . There were these:
 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2978781#Post2978781 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3045980#Post3045980
And these:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4288875#Post4288875
But this species is certainly special. 
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The most interesting thing for me is the surroundings photos, along a creek. Never have been that way, but MJ's page says woodchips, just like out there. It almost looks wild, certainly more wild than many Bay Area spots.
The place is wild. I think it is second growth along most of the stream. There are elms (standing dead and live) some kind of weed tree that has leaves that remind me of poison-ivy (I call it cotton wood, but I don't think I'm correct). There are also some really big sycamores. The place was used for industry but it has been abandoned for a really long time judging from the discarded scraps of machinery that you have to be careful not to trip over. The place has been abandoned long enough to be considered wild. These are wild Psilocybe caerulipes, and this is their natural habitat.
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it's certainly possible somebody dumped woodchips out there many years ago
These are growing from a layer of mud and sticks deposited by the flood from Hurricane Ivan winter before last.
 I probably should have included more of the stick in this picture.
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And most important, it looks like a nice out of the way and safe place to pick, someplace you can probably call your own for years to come.
I was back in there for most of today and nobody came by. Last night some people on a fourwheeler came by and I made myself scarce before they got to where I was. You can always hear them coming. I don't know who owns the land, but it's not posted.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: Gumby]
#5568569 - 04/28/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do they have a very distinct, musky smell?
I think the smell is identical to P. cubensis, and P. cyanescens. A nausiating musky smell.
Can you smell a diference between cubensis and weilii?
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Actually there is quite a difference in smell between the weilii and cubies. The weilii smell alot like crayons compared to how everyone knows how cubies smell. So shroomy had you found any back there before or you just lucked out on that particular spot?
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: phishhead]
#5569363 - 04/29/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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sweet!
Congrats dan. Beautifull freakin pics dude
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: phishhead]
#5569629 - 04/29/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a new spot for me. Over the winter I drove around scouting new spots and this is one of them. I have another new spot that I am going to check today. It is a very similar habitat, so we shall see.
Why must Bluefoot and morel season also be final exam season!
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: inski]
#5569642 - 04/29/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you get any micro pics to show spores and cystidia?
Sorry, I don't have the equipment to do that.
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you are totally rad, d00d.

i always wondered why they called em blue foots, now it makes a little more sense after seeing that first pic. they look potent.
cubies and cyans smell completely different to me though 
excellent find and pics anywho,
DH
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: spores]
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great find shroomydan!
and those little guys really do look A LOT like weilii
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You da man Shroomydan!
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Hey MadSeasonAbove
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There are elms (standing dead and live) some kind of weed tree that has leaves that remind me of poison-ivy (I call it cotton wood, but I don't think I'm correct).
Probably Box Elder, Acer negundo (ash leaved maple) - tree has flowers (especially male) that resemble corn tassles, with elongated narrow stems in clusters.
I had an urge to see what was popping around our land,
Enjoy our friends from the forest!
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: lIXII]
#5572096 - 04/29/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks shroomeydan...I have a Sony DSC-s75 which is also 3.2 megpixel. You Cannon seems to be a little better with color, but then I think it's mostly lighting conditions. Also, all of the photos I posted have been reduced to half size using MGI photo suite, which also has some color adjustments I've never used..That could be part of it. ironically, my Sony gets better reviews in some places than you're Cannon. Anyway, it's not the megapixel in this case, since it's both the same.
As for the 'wild' question. The reason I asked is because it's often extemely difficult to say what 'wild' is. Wild like Alaska wild?...In Ohio?...I've never been to the midwest, east coast, so I can't say, but for example, you would be able to find these blue foots in old growth in the Appalachia park? In a place that has never been disturbed by humans?
The basic premise is that most psilocybes grow near humans in some way. There should have been some disturbance of some sort, whether it be cows, woodcutting, farming.
I did some research and all I could find is these blue foots are rare, but when you find them you can find alot. another example, Cyanescens out here on the west coast are saprophytes, but they usually get their start with woodchips because it's easier for the spores to invade the serrated edges. Once they get going, they'll eat almost anything. For example, even tho Cyanescens is woodchip based, I've actually seen mycellium crawl up twigs and branches that were not cut, but simply broken, with the mycellium exposed the whole time, then assemble at a point in the dead branch, then fruit. I saw this in Golden Gate Park a few years ago....it was basically erosion control, where the park set up a series of staggered branches, much like you would find in the wild, to help stop landslides....That's not woodchips at all, but they got there start years ago with woodchips, and then migrated into whatever food was available, as long as it's not parasitic.
The point is, it's very very difficult to tell what is truely wild. It might look wild, but usually it's not. Another question...Do chanterelles grow in Ohio? If so, would you venture a guess that you would ever find blue foots near chanterelles?..because chanterelles often do grow in truely wild areas, untouched by man..You can find those in old growth forest in Oregon...
Also, I understand that these blue foots are the only active species native to the USA northeast, from Ohio up through Maine. For some reason, there is not much documention of these.
Part of the reason why I ask is because I've been picking soo long and seen so many consistencies, that I like to think I can go anywhere in the world and pick. In the case of these Psilocybe caerulipes,yeah, I would take notice of those if I ever saw them if I travelled to Pennsylvania or wherever...Why, because of the color..the stem color is certainly darker than many psilocybe species, especially cyanescens, which is white..
It's the caramel cap color that's most important for me, and this is why it's so difficult to show people, and why a good camera is so important...Some folks are color blind, but I can see it plain as day.
That certain color of the cap is the most consistent thing i've seen...I have never seen any other mushroom that matches that color perfectly as the main category of psilocybes... And different shades of that color. The color, is the single most difficult thing to convey to people...Either people can see it, or they can't.It's almost like no amount of photos and text can help people who can't see it
The Blue foots, they are hygrophanous?..they get lighter in color when they dry out?
You see, that's one of the things people like us look for when hunting...When we put on our 'mushroom eyes'.
Biking, strolling, walking, hiking.......I look for that certain color...little minute changes as my eyes are scanning my surroundings.
Because everybodys eyes are different... < thereein lies one of the big problems
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: auweia]
#5573322 - 04/30/06 06:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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excelent pictures!!! i envy you guys for having such wonderfull places to roam... i'd have to drive hours to get anywhere interesting (and i'd probably not find anything anyway)
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Holy crap, I'm out of town for a couple of days and come back to the board to find this!!! Amazing! And almost certainly the greatest photos ever taken of this mushroom - copyright time!
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: xmush]
#5573761 - 04/30/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a question...
Are Psilocybe caerulipes very rare in general, or just hard to ID? Thanks
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Very rare outside of certain parts of WV as far as I've read.
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: eris]
#5573809 - 04/30/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks 
I take it they dont commonly grow in Virginia too?
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take prints!! make available to the masses this rare treat
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They grow from Georgia to Massachussetts and into Ontario, Canada and are very common in West Virgina, recently 80 people were arrested a few years back in Wheeler, West Virginia picking this very mushroom in one lot behind a city warehouse.
They are also very common in Michigan as reported by dozens of locations in Guzman's Genus Psilocybe.
Let me check my book and I will get back and post a list of some locations.
IT seems Shroomy Dan found a natural patch of P. carulipes, whereas, most of the other posts in the last 5-6 years were individuals who found a few small fruitings in man made environments in Ohio and some in West Virginia.
And Shroomy Dan, my hi-jacked trojan is not letting back into the pm message page so I probably won't be able to read any pm's until later tonight.
It comes and goes and sometimes I cannot get the page to open after I log in. This is happeneing to me on and off at several sites I visit so will get to any message you may have sent later.
have a shroomy day,
and remember, Ohio, Michigan, and West Virginia are good locals for this species. Normal season is usually late May through July and possibly into early August.
Sometimes P. caerulipes will resemble P. cyanescens because the caps can go flat and sometimes become wavy. Those are normal characteristics in the physiological shape of the species.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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Nice pictures Shroomydan.
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Outstanding  How exciting it is when all the work you've done pays off!
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im kicking myself in the foot for just now seeing this thread. Shroomydan...you've done what im sure many of us ohioans have been trying to do for years!! Congratulations!! you need to write a book or something, a pamphlet at least. distribute it for ohio. You're a master man, nothing else to it. Keep having a great year!
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cmonnn shroomydan i thought you said you were going back for more picturesssssss
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Psilocybe caerulipes is alive and well in southern ohio. these are all we find around here, we had pretty much steady shrooms all last spring/early summer and this year should be just as good.
next time I go hunting I'll take pics.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
#5589485 - 05/04/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi Shroomy Dan
P. caerulipes belongs to the stirps semilanceatae.
Here are the pages of the species ID and habitats and locations from 1983, "The Genus Psilocybe." Now being revised.



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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: mjshroomer]
#5595209 - 05/05/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks MJ  I'll get back to you about these soon. BTW, my mom is out of the hospital and feeling much better.
It's been one hell of a week, but I wrote all my papers, and passed all my finals. My undergraduate career ended at 5:00 PM yesterday evening when I turned in my last paper. Woot! Woot! 
Today I went to check on my new favorite place in the whole world, and my little bald-headed blue-footed friends were waiting for me.
My first find was this pair. I imagine the cracked cap is due to age and a lack of humidity.

Next I encountered these monsters.
 [I enhanced the color a little on the first two, couldn't help myself. ]
I think this might be a different strain than those posted by mushpuppet.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5207687#Post5207687 Most of them have short fat stems and meatier caps, and they also appear to have less prominent veils for the most part.

They certainly are prolific. This 'patch' covers almost half a mile along a stream and a short ways up a small feeder stream. The highest density of mushrooms is near the confluence of the two streams.
Here is a shot of the main stream. Note the tall weeds on the right side of the stream. They are Japanese Knot-weed (Polygonum cuspidatum), an invasive species that P. caerulipes has taken a liking to.

I have found at least 4 distinct blue-foot habitats in this area.
The first and least impressive is a grassy field about 70 yards upland from the steam. I imagine they are growing from buried wood, but I didn't see any evidence for this. Perhaps they have adapted to eating dead grass? The mushrooms in this area are almost white and very small with long thin stems and almost imperceptible partial veils. They remind me very much of P. foenisecii, but are given away by the smell and very mild bluing.
 (sorry for the repost, I didn't take new pictures of this spot today)
The second habitat is under the Japanese Knot Weed, along the banks of the steam. These large plants make bamboo like stalks which die off every winter and reform in the spring. I observed mushrooms fruiting from the dead stalks mixed with twigs leaves and sand, under the standing live plants which provide shade. Mushrooms under the Japanese knot weed ranged from small to large, and grew singly to in large groups, but usually not more than three or four in a cluster.

The third habitat is where the mushrooms are the thickest. It is literally very difficult to walk through these spots without stepping on them. They grow singly and in large clusters from sand mixed with buried wood, under a pretty thick canopy of elm, buckeye, and Box Elder (thanks lIXII ), in flat areas about 2-3 feet above the stream bed. Wild rose bushes also grow in these areas and the shrooms can sometimes be found under them. The mycelium in the largest spot like this is continuous for an area about 20 ft by 200 feet.

The final habitat is directly from rotten peaces of wood, on the ground and in large debris piles left by the flood. I even found one small specimen growing from a log.

The bluing reaction is highly variable, from intense to almost non-existent. Some of them look dangerously potent.

Color is also highly variable in this species. Note the nearly orange hue of this mutant.

The color variations could be potentially deadly for the inexperienced hunter, because the blue-foot shares its habitat with deadly Galerinas. I moved the Galerina for this photo, but I moved it less than a foot. Note the prominent umbo on the Galerina.

Well that's it for today. Good luck Ohio hunters; they're out there.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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Hell yeah shroomydan, thanks for updating us on habitat. That looks like every creek I've seen in Georgia. I'm going to start looking for them.
It's funny that you mention Polygonum species plants. I have several Polygonum sp. plants growing in my aquatic plant tank.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: Gumby]
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HolEEE Shiznit! I have been trying to get my buddy in Tennessee to start looking for the elusive "Blue Foot"
Sweet pic's Dan and many congrats on all the superb finds
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: YESSUP]
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Thanks for the much appreciated habitat update photos.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: Gumby]
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That Polygonum cuspidatum is a real menace around here, but the blue-foot seem to like it.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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I haven't login in a while but...
that's beautiful man !!
thanks for sharing.
I think that even Gastón Guzmán is going to drivel at those pics 
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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These aren't the same plants are they? Appear too fat to me.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
#5597570 - 05/06/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomy Dan postted this image of Galerina sp. next to a speciment of Psilocybe caerulipes.

Observe that the stem of the galerina is an orange ochraceous clor with an orange veil remnant left on the stipe of the Galerina.
The astipe of the P. caerulipes is whitish to straw-yellow-brown and turns extremely a bluinsh-silver to blui throughout the stipe and the ring is generally a light-brownish color in the veil remnant on the stipe.
Two distinct observations to a new collector.
Aas for the color of the Galerina cap, the P. caerulipes caps, can look exactly that same color at time because the cap colors of P. caerulipes can have many variations of the chestnut look.
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Another great day for you Dan.
Kudos on the photography also.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: Mead]
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These aren't the same plants are they? Appear too fat to me.
Yeah, that's Polygonum cuspidatum. My photos didn't show how big they were because I wanted people to be able to see the shrooms. That looks like good habitat by the way, but a few weeks too early. Some of the mushrooms I found today were growing under plants eight feet high.
Will update shortly.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
#5600308 - 05/07/06 07:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yesterday I decided to check a few of the other new spots I scouted over the winter.
I didn't find any mushrooms at all the first two places I checked, but the third was teaming with many species. I didn't find any blue-foot there, but I did find these look-a-likes. I don't have the first clue what they are, but the cinnamon brown spore deposit on the veil rules out Psilocybe. The notched gills also distinguish them from P. caerulipes which has adnate to subdecurrent gill attachment.

I also found these interesting specimens. My first thought was Pasthyrella, but they had a pelicule.

No blue-foot, but the stop was not wasted because I brought out several pounds of yellow morels.  It's nice to carry around a bag of morels just in case somebody wants to know what I'm doing.

I was beginning to despair of finding another blue-foot location, but the day wasn't over yet, so I decided to visit a stream I had scouted in Washington County Ohio.

I was swimming through a dense thicket of P. cuspidatum when I found the first blue-foot. The wavy caps on some of these remind me of P. cyanescens.

I only found a few specimens in the Japanese Knot-weed forest, but when I made my way into a sandy area under some trees (Buckeye, Alder, Elm) I found a few more. The mushrooms along this stream were sparsely dispersed, and difficult to spot due to thick ground cover vegetation.

Despite the difficult hunting conditions, I manged to find about thirty nice specimens in an hour's hunting, including this pretty little cluster.

Now I know there are at least two streams in eastern Ohio that are populated by P. caerulipes. Maybe there are more.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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Quote:
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Next I encountered these monsters.
 [I enhanced the color a little on the first two, couldn't help myself. 
damn you shroomy dan i just spilled burning hot coffee all over my lap as a result from a muscle spasm when i viewed those pictures.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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All I can say is wow, I don't visit often anymore... This is absolutly incredible Dan, you are truly the man.... Great photo's and habitat descriptions.... I am sooo glad you have found them.... good luck to all .. Nofindum....
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: BuDBuddY]
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BuDBuddY said: Sweet, hopefully there'll be some still growin' by the time I get there...
You should probably wait for rain before making the drive. It's been really dry here lately. I went out today and only found a handful. They are predicting rain in the area over the next few days, so maybe this week-end. Odds are slim to none that you will find my magic spot, but these things are more common than I originally thought. I found one at a third location today. Details in a few...
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: nofind_um]
#5609527 - 05/09/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thank you for the kind words nofind um. When I first showed up here a few years ago you were one of the one's I looked up to. It's good to see you around. 
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Well this morning I woke up with a million things to do, but instead of accomplishing any of them I went mushroom hunting. I don't even like eating mushrooms anymore. I haven't had a good trip in two years, and I have yet to sample these wild blue-foot, yet I am still strangely compelled to spend most of my free time alone in the deep woods documenting these spectacular little creatures. Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist. 
I suppose there are worse obsessions. 
OK, when I found blue-foot at the location in Washington County a few days ago, I was hunting on public land (Wayne National Forest), but I was very near some kind of private property. It wasn't posted, but I knew there was a gated road crossing the stream up ahead, and I could hear a lawn mower running up that way. The closer I got to the mower, the more plentiful the shrooms were on the ground. This didn't surprise me, because I also knew I was approaching the confluence of two streams, and at my magic spot in Belmont county, the shrooms were thickest at the confluence of two streams. That day I never did find any large clusters of mushrooms. Most of them were singular, and a few were in groups of two or three. Because I did not want to be seen I stopped short of the confluence of the two streams and went home.
I had been dieing to know if another patch of thousands existed at that spot, and I figured that maybe nobody would be there during the week, so early this morning I jumped in the metro and headed that way. To make a long story short, I did not find a large patch of shrooms. I found about ten total in two hours of hunting. All of them were growing singly. There were a couple of vacant cabins and an oil well on the gated property. Of course it hasn't rained here for two weeks, so maybe that spot will be rockin after it rains.
There was another spot I scouted over the winter that I had not yet checked, so i drove up to Monroe county to see what I could find. This stream is the largest of the three where I have found blue foot.

The conditions were extremely dry (plants were starting to wilt) and I had little hope of finding them there, but what the hell, I'm obsessed.
The trip paid off. I found a single pristine specimen with a few dried ones around it.

Though it was only one, I suspect more will be there after the next good rain. This stream differs from the other two where I have found blue-foot in that it is not infested by Japanese knot-weed. The place were blue-foot was growing is typical of where I have found the densest populations at the other two locations.

These small ledges a few feet above the stream bed, shaded by a hill (in this case), or trees, or Japanese knot-weed is blue-foot's preferred home.
Though it was only one mushroom (this was the only mushroom of any kind I found along this stream, probably due to dry conditions), it makes for three out of six streams in Eastern Ohio that host Psilocybe caerulipes. That's pretty good odds. The one thing all the streams have in common is that they are big enough to make it difficult to cross without getting your feet wet, but small enough that you can find a place to get across, even if you have to put down a few stepping stones.
I have a feeling more Ohio folks will be posting finds after the next good rain.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: shroomydan]
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I'm moving to ohio.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
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i have been picking now for about 5 years... none of those mushrooms quite look like caerulipies but rather azeurenszens (bad spelling). one question that i have for you is have you noticed a specific tree that these caps need to thrive off of and or plant life... i have found many wavy cap psilocybes that i was led to believe were either caerulipies or cyanescens.... please give me any insite that you have! thanks imfrank
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: imfrank]
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P. cyanescens is a west coast mushroom. The only active Psilocybe we have in this area is P. caerulipes. If you read this entire post you will see that your questions about trees and plants have been answered.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
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Great finds shroomy, Im wondering how well I would do looking down here in Georgia considering they are on our list of actives. Whats the elevation where you are finding them? I wonder if i might have luck up by the appalachians??
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Re: Awsome Post, Dan! Thank you. [Re: phishhead]
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You are a master mycologist, Dan. I'm about 270 miles northeast of your area.
Although I don't expect that I'll find the caerulipes right off the bat, if ever, I suspect that you have opened a page that will end up in Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World, and in mjshroomer's work, in terms of documenting the distribution of this wonderful species.
Thank you! May the Gods continue to shine as you foray.
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Re: Awsome Post, Dan! Thank you. [Re: BobHumboldt]
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There is so much rain! Maybe even too much?
What do you think master Dan, is the Little Muskingum much bigger than the streams you have been having luck near? I'm about to be taking a little fishing/shrooming trip north of Marietta and I'll surely be keeping my eyes open for the blue foot. I'll leave some behind for ya though...
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Re: Awsome Post, Dan! Thank you. [Re: HIghInOhio]
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I don't think the Little Muskingum would be good habitat (at least the parts of it that I have seen), because it is slow moving with really high banks. The blue-foot seem to prefer faster moving streams. You will usually find them in sandy areas too, and from what I have seen, Little Muskingum is more mud than sand. You may do better by searching smaller feeder streams running into it. We just found blue-foot at a forth location in eastern Ohio at the gathering this weekend. That makes 4 out of six places tried, though they were later at the stream we hunted this weekend than at the others. I also heard from an experienced bluefoot guerrilla grower that they can sometimes fruit "in every month of the year" but i would not bother looking in the dead of winter unless you want to move the myc inside to fruit like mushpuppet did.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
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woo!
Thanks to you I'm going to start posting on the hunting forum..thanks for hosting the campout this weekend, it was fabulous!
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: Jenny]
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With all the rain this weekend there should be a substantial harvest in the following days...I am so excited!
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: Rednalo]
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Gumby, I definitely agree, those look almost exactly like Weilii. I definitely think there is some kind of mutation which allowed for weilii to grow further north in colder climates as theyre generally located in mountainous regions.
Either that or weilii came down south from the Appalachians... Either way, NICE FINDS AND GREAT PICTURES.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: I2ancid]
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Beautiful pictures, I'm definitely going hunting . Thank you for including the habitat and the pictures of it as well.
Japanese Knotwood seems too grow rather abundantly in West Virginia and Virginia if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
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shroomydan i am in lower michigan about a hour or 2 from ohio lol. Man you definetly found the mother load, I'm going to start looking around my area for them too. I've been studyin mushrooms for a few years now, but yet to find anything active. Man I would drive down to ohio in a second if you'd be willing to share you're spot with a fellow honest shroomer like me lol. I would'nt show or tell i just want some to store for the lonely days lol. Anyways get back at me man im serious about comin down, but i understand if u wanna keep ur spot top secret lol. Im me Aim= mjdabomb3 ciao mitch
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: ihaveacow]
#5636769 - 05/16/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are also very common in Michigan. I posted a page of Michigan locations. Find it.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Third Location with Habitat Pics Added 09MAY06] [Re: ihaveacow]
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Maybe we can do another gathering sometime, but as MJ mentioned, you could probably find these in Michigan.
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I found a new location yesterday. It seems bluefoot is less picky about the size of the stream it inhabits than I had originally thought. These were found under Japanesse Knot-weed in the low flood plane of the Ohio River. You can read about the details here.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5652465 - 05/20/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Ohio Valley is just crawling with Bluefoot!
A few days ago I went out to collect specimens to send to Dr. Guzman. He wants three collections from different areas so I thought I might save some gas and time by searching close to home. So I went down by the river, near a bridge in an urban area, and sure enough, Bluefoot was there. There were huge debris piles filled with garbage down there and bluefoot was growing in with the garbage. Under a top canopy of silver maple and a low canopy of Japanese Knot weed.


Psilocybe caerulipes can blend in with it's environment quite well, making them difficult to spot, especially when they are wet.
I also found these other mushrooms in that area.
 Some beat-ass morels
 Some Orange Mycenas
 These were growing from a wound in a Silver Maple. Coprinus I think.
 A nice cluster of Pholiotas.
I also stopped by the Ohio River Islands National Wildlife Refuge to collect a few samples (that thread will be updated shortly). And I went back to the state forest where falcon, eris, Jim, AsianYumYum, LLamabox, and I hunted last Saturday.
That place was loaded with shrooms, allot more than last Saturday. I even found some growing from a moss covered log.

I have now found Bluefoot in six of eight locations checked since the season began in mid April. These are VERY common this year.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5652522 - 05/20/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome, glad to hear there is more this week than last, as I live northeast of you right near a river with flood areas with piles of dead trees, knotweeds, and debris. A little warm weather and I think they'll start popping around here, it has been raining all week.
Thanks for updating, you take great pics.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5665256 - 05/23/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I took psilotastic on a guided hunt today and the Bluefoot were out in force.
Some of them are getting ridiculously big.

We were also fortunate enough to find this beautiful cluster next to a robin egg. Falcon posted a picture of this egg from the gathering last week, when there was but a single pin beside it. By today the patch had flushed out nicely.

On the way home I saw a familiar looking van parked next to one of my best spots. Look who was lurking around the woods there. 

Good times.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5665269 - 05/23/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Where do you find these mostyl, hardwood lowlands or what.
Id you ever feel like sending me a print id be glad to work with it.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5665374 - 05/23/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whoa, I remember that egg. Crazy that a big patch is there now.
Nice pics 
I guess the egg isn't going to hatch.
Did you run into Jim out there with Shroomism? He said he was going back out there some time on aim.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: eris]
#5665966 - 05/23/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, I didn't see Jim. Shroomism said that Jim ate some caps and wandered off into the woods. I hope he is alright. They were not at the state forest where we all hunted, but at the other location, the "patch of thousands", where the cop stopped us. Hopefully they made it out of there OK.
I had other engagements, so I couldn't stick around, but it was nice to meet shroomism.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: Psychoslut]
#5665985 - 05/23/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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They grow in the flood planes of rivers and streams. These have been successfully cultivated indoors . I have prints. Just send me a PM if you want one.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#5666466 - 05/23/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are real pretty caps next to the robin egg
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Forth Location with Habitat Pics Added 16MAY06] [Re: MustardMan]
#5783469 - 06/23/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like many people are still finding these with possibly many more on the way with the same questions of when do they occur and what do they look like and where.....who really dont look far back in the posts...
Psilocybin mushrooms are saprophytes.....they grow on dead plant material. Many thrive after ecological catastrophes . Landslides, floods, hurricanes , all create supportive habitats for many Psilocybe mushrooms. This peculiar affection for disturbed habitats enables them to travel following streams and debris . Disturbed habitats appear suddenly-----often cataclysmically. Unless the habitat is undergoing a major seasonal re-disturbance, the resident mushrooms will move on in a few years. Disturbed habitats will evolve, and support fewer saprophytic mushrooms as the resources are consumed. Hence, the first two years tend to be the most prolific, with the third year declining . and after four or five years, the habitats virtually expire. If new debris is introduced however, or if the soils are upturned, these habitats can rebound with additional populations of Psilocybes. These habitats are created from flooding rivers . Swollen rivers erode away soils, trees, and just about anything else in their path. The alluvial plains they create are characteristically high in sandy silt and an abundance of scattered, broken wood fragments which characterizes this habitat. Tangled root balls of trees collect debris as the high waters resede. Deciduous trees such as Cottonwoods (Populus), Alders (Alnus), and / or Willows (Salix) predominate, and also occuring are Box Elder (Acer negundo), Sweet Gum ( Liquidamber), Hornbeams (Carpinus) and similiar trees thriving in moist soils along streams with assorted understories of grasses and brushes. These areas are fairly open, so are fairly sunny. Many of the species in the riparian zones will also grow in disturbed habitats. Psilocybe caerulipes grows solitary or cespitose in deciduous forests interspersed with American Beech (Fagus grandiflora). on hardwood slash and debris and on or about decaying hardwood logs (particularly Birch (Betula), Beech (Fagus), and Maple (Acer), especially along river systems . Growing in the spring to fall after warm rains. However Psilocybes are generally rare in these habitats except deciduous woodlands devastated by recuuring cataclysms which tend to be better habitats for Psilocybin fungi than those in stasis. It is widely distributed east of the great plains, throughout the Midwestern and Eastern United States. Although widely distributed Ps. caerulipes is not found frequently. However in woodlands where it is known fruitings tend to persisit for years..... Psilocybe azurescens and Psilocybe quebecsensis are also examples of psilocybin mushrooms found in riparian zones. Psilocybe Weilii was first reported in Georgia after hurricane Opal swept through in 1995....
these are based on observations made by Stamets on the occurence of these types of mushrooms and their habitats from many, many years ago.....
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Hey Shroomydan! I dont think i can post on the gathering forum because i'm a fairly new member. Thanks for making the gathering a great first experience for me. It was great meeting such good people i could talk and learn from. Keep up the good hunting good luck hunting this summer, I'll be busy trying to find that chicken mushroom 
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also don't have enough posts to give u a good rating, so good rating on the way, as promised!
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I have been looking for this species since i found out they grow locally in my area, I have yet to find one, but like you shroomydan i will keep looking.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY06] [Re: shroomydan]
#6306820 - 11/28/06 04:08 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Over the Thanksgiving weekend I decided to check on one of my Bluefoot patches.I was not expecting to find anything, but to my surprise I found this single specimen. These things do occasionally fruit in the fall. 

You can really see the blue on it as it is drying out.

As I have mentioned before, I'm working on a paper about this mushroom, and finding a Fall fruiting in the wild, even if it is only a single specimen, is significant. We are still waiting for Dr. Guzman to give us a name for this thing, but Dr. Gartz has completed his chemical analysis, and the SEM photos from Dr. Prakitsin should be here any day now.
I will update this thread as new information becomes available.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: shroomydan]
#6306950 - 11/28/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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WOW very awesome, I just about gave up hunting, tho I seen a dead tree that was LOADED with big yellow/orange mushrooms that I planned to check out again, but it's right down the street from an Army facility that has been polluting the area for years so I haven't had the ambition to really go back(yesterday--will today on my way to school tho probably) just to look at mushrooms that are probably loaded with mercury, as I won't chance eating them around a GOVT facility that has been giving cancer for years.
I'm definately going to get back out in the woods and see if the caerulipes might be out, as it has been raining a lot lately(tho the rivers just got flooded again so the debris is moved all around again ) and I'm not totally convinced that they don't grow around here, as the Morel season was a complete washout; only seen one person in my local myc club say they found morels this spring, and I remember you finding them(ps caerulipes) during morel season.
Again awesome find, thanks for taking the time to share with us
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: Mead]
#6306975 - 11/28/06 07:40 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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That gives this Kentuckian some hope. I know of a perfect spot, fast moving stream, those bamboo plants, and sandy banks. Damn I cant wait till next year.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: Mead] 1
#6308334 - 11/28/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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found 2 gyms a couple days ago,just got done checking some mink traps and my friend pointed them out about 4 feet up a maple tree in a split.definately still some shit going on.
cool dan.they come out in the fall too!
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: coon]
#6308710 - 11/28/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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you are the man! I was just in ohio a few days ago too! should have went hunting! anyway you rock dan the man!
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: shroomydan]
#6309185 - 11/28/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice find and thanks for sharing! i've been looking for the elusive blue foot for years with no luck in the NE.
Just curious, any idea about the potency of those babies compared to cubes?
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: trippy]
#6309230 - 11/28/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Pikashroom
Hey trippy,
MJ has asked me not to post the results from the chemical analysis here until our paper is published, but I can say that the tests confirmed my opinion that dried bluefoot is about the same potency as dried cubes. Lots of folk report that they are considerably stronger when fresh.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: shroomydan]
#6309303 - 11/28/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks shroomydan for the info, and best wishes to your research =]
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cool stuff, im gonna be llokin around for these guys
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back from the dead once more again fuckin up the flow again fuck it here we go again.....
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This thread might be old, but It's not necessarily dead. The story on these mushrooms is not over. I plan to update this thread with new photos and information, maybe as soon as this weekend.
Year old answered ID requests are dead. A detailed report of a controversial species has a little more longevity.
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Yah i wanna see new flushes...hey dan you better let me get a print...i want to be able to find them up here in michigan....
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Dan, Remember to keep some prime photos of the P. ovoideocystidiata for our article. We should not publish photos already posted on the internet. WE will need both a natural occurring photo and one of the cultivation. Hopefully one not posted by you as of yet. I have already wrote an abstract, part of the introduction and have added the SEM and Chemical analysis as well as the 9 herbarium deposits in three herbariums. (XAL, Leipzig and Chula).
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I am putting this paper together rather nicely for may the Journal of Ethnopharmacology, one of the most prestigious botanical journals of all times.
Can you give me the url for the cult section for me to check it out?
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Any chance of you letting us know the results of your chemical analysis? Or at least its potency relative to more known species like cubes or cyans?
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: xmush]
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WOW that was one hell of a patch or six. Is this year the same? Or have you looked yet?
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MJ -
Do some herbariums have a license to handle schedule I substances, or are they technically operating in the same type of legal netherworld that psilocybin mushrooms at fungus fairs are in?
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Re: Da Bluef00t! [Re: lineman]
#6836581 - 04/26/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Most major Universities have research programs which allow scheduled one permits for storage of drug/plant materials and may have a drug/plant course or classes for such. Mostly in medicinal medicines.
The U of Washington has hundreds of collections of magic shrooms. So does Harvard, UCLA, Yale, Princeton, U of Michigan. New York Botanical Gardens. Duke University, University of Chicago and many herbariums outside of the Aamericas. The largest single Psilocybe collections are at XAL in Mexico.
Regarding the chemical content, we cannot post any of that information until the paper is published.
IF Shroomy Dan or I were to post it here than the journals would find the data invaluable as already being published.
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Here are a few pictures of spore samples from these mushrooms ShroomyDan found. The spores are mounted in nutrient supplemented water so hopefully in a few days we can see hyphae formation if anyone is interested... I should take a few pictures with a stain as well, and damnit I need to get on ordering a new bottle of immersion oil.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: FungusMan]
#7348726 - 08/29/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, I know this thread is a little be old. But for the past 4 or 5 months I've been looking for these. I live in Ny. Any suggestions or areas to look? I've looked at your photos and read the habitats. Any particular month to look either? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: tiptopfunnyman]
#7944366 - 01/28/08 09:20 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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These arent Psilocybe Caerulipes. they are Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [5th & 6th Location with Habitat Pics Added 20MAY0 [Re: HerbBaker]
#8031643 - 02/16/08 04:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ahhhh...this is an absolutely inspiring thread. I live in the northeast US and searched this past year (started too late, the summer, I think) to no avail. This is getting my blood flowing again now that spring is on the horizon. Thanks for the tips of where to look (in terms of terrain) and congrats on the GREAT finds shroomydan...it must be almost like hitting Powerball. 
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please post habitat, terrain ,,trees close, spore print, stipe stem, thanks damn i cant wait 2 find sum blue foots or subbs
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: Mead]
#11391285 - 11/05/09 02:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi~~ Just joined whilst reading up on Blue Foot (pied bleu). I live in Switzerland with many mushroom hunters, although I haven't been brave enough to try. Pied bleu (and many others) are in the grocery stores. I bought some of the pied bleu and threw them in my salad. They left a metallic taste in my mouth, which is why I started my Online search. Are they better cooked? Thnx
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: parlevent]
#11391433 - 11/05/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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The mushrooms you brought are Lepista nuda, they are a good edible and are not the same as Psilocybe caerulipes which is also known as "Blue foot" and is hallucinogenic, it would be illegal to sell those in the grocery store! inski.
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes Found in Ohio [Re: parlevent]
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Quote:
parlevent said: Hi~~ Just joined whilst reading up on Blue Foot (pied bleu). I live in Switzerland with many mushroom hunters, although I haven't been brave enough to try. Pied bleu (and many others) are in the grocery stores. I bought some of the pied bleu and threw them in my salad. They left a metallic taste in my mouth, which is why I started my Online search. Are they better cooked? Thnx
Yes you should always cook blewits, you should cook any wild mushrooms thoroughly.
You can find Lepista (Clitocybe) nuda on here...
http://academic.evergreen.edu/projects/mushrooms/phm/index.htm
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes [ovoideocystidiata] Found in Ohio [Fall fruit photo added 28NOV06] [Re: shroomydan]
#13562965 - 11/30/10 01:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanx for the pics it gives me hope to know that someone found some. its snowing now but when spring rolls around the hunt begins again
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Re: Blue-foot Psilocybe caerulipes [ovoideocystidiata] Found in Ohio [Fall fruit photo added 28NOV06] [Re: shroomydan]
#25238755 - 05/30/18 04:54 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know that this is a really old Post but I have found this same guy further up river=http://files.shroomery.org/files/18-22/772054131-IMG_20180529_200738
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