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OfflineJeffersonDarcy
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smokable psilocin freebase?
    #5564536 - 04/27/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

TEK:

Elves indicated using 28 grams dried mixed cubensis chopped and placed into jar.

Began by soaking in pure grain (everclear) 190 proof alcohol. Finely chopped mushrooms in jar.


Then the jar sat in warm water bath for 7 hours. This was done by placing a rag in the bottom of a pan and filling it up with some water.

Placing the jar of soaking fungi on the rag in the water and bringing the heat up slowly.

* NOTE: Alcohol boils at a lower temp. than water. Watch it closely. you don't want the alcohol to boil!

Straining and squeezing the fungal matter 3 times. Saving the broth each time. Filtering many times while hot. Through coffee filters.

The combined strainings were then added back to the heat bath and brought up to almost a boil.

Finally reduced a bit then began evaping.

The elves told me they wanted to pour off the darker pure grain and wash the crystals in some fresh everclear while they are frozen.

Put into final resting place and add just enough fresh everclear to keep the crystals covered to store in the freezer.

The elves said that was a dime in the background and that they harvested approximately 4 times that amount from the 28 grams of fungus.

They (elves) impress me so.

For matters pressing the elves induced me into what they described as a 30mg vaporized crystal experience. It came on about 1 minute 30 seconds into the induction. The initial rush was more profound than vaporized DMT experiences but not as intense as 5meodmt vaporized. The visual aspect was that of DMT and maybe even a bit more, hard to say, there was much going on.

Auditory and physical symptoms persisted throughout the 20 minute peaking experience. The come down was much like the downside of oral administration or fungi. After effects persisted for about 30 - 40 minutes after peak.

All in all the elves have stumbled upon something wonderful and overall overwhleming.

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has anyone heard of this or tried this?

more intense that DMT and slightly longer lasting? and can be extracted with just alcohol? if this is true it could be the perfect psychedelic  :shocked:


Edited by JeffersonDarcy (04/27/06 08:52 PM)


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5564584 - 04/27/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

wow i wanna try


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Help on the Way]
    #5564607 - 04/27/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea if one of your guys has alot of shrooms on hand (as I'm sure someone does) try this shit for science's sake! :smile:

it kinda sounds like bullshit to me, because I would think you would need to do an a/b extraction to get a freebase, but I dunno.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5564622 - 04/27/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't heat destroy psilocybin?


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5564634 - 04/27/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds sketchy to me, doesn't seem like extraction would change makeup enough to refute the fact that heat and psilocybin don't mix.

Wait. Just read : psilocin

Of that I'm not sure. It's risky, and you stand to make some big losses, in the event it doesn't work, but if anyone's interested it would be a worthy experiment.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
    #5564672 - 04/27/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I wanna try it!!!


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: YANG]
    #5564716 - 04/27/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

.... I don't trust any extraction passed on to someone by "Elves"


MOD EDIT: give a guy a break. It's a way to say AFOAF.


Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (04/28/06 05:29 PM)


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5565209 - 04/27/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

StickyWater said:
.... I don't trust any extraction passed on to someone by "Elves"




yea i thought that was retarded too


MOD EDIT: give a guy a break. It's a way to say AFOAF.


Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (04/28/06 05:29 PM)


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5566213 - 04/28/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds too good to be true.

I don't think an alcohol extraction will freebase the psilocyn.

But thats not to say that the extracton wouldn't have any effects if vapourised.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #5566358 - 04/28/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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JonnyDeformed said:
Doesn't heat destroy psilocybin?




only over 400 degrees


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #5566420 - 04/28/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

JonnyDeformed said:
Doesn't heat destroy psilocybin?




Not at the boiling temp of alcohol, only substantially higher. Oxygen is a much worse enemy of the magic.

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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Mycomyth]
    #5566743 - 04/28/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the oxidation process kills the active ingridients in the shrooms. so it would be pretty dumb to smoke it. if you smoke your extract you can be sure most molecules react with the oxygen in the air.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Mycomyth]
    #5567685 - 04/28/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not per se.

Suddenly strongly heating a substance can turn it into a micron-sized airborne powder (read: smoke) which would decompose the substance if it weren't heated as briefly. This is the principle toy fireworks use to deliver colored smokes using dyes as fragile as psilocybin.
So it might actually happen and the prospect is quite exciting.

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with 30mg vaporized psilocybin:
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onset - 1 minute 30 seconds
peak - 20 minutes
aftereffects - 30-40 minutes
total duration - 50 minutes to 1 hour

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The initial rush was more profound than vaporized DMT experiences but not as intense as 5meodmt vaporized. The visual aspect was that of DMT and maybe even a bit more, hard to say, there was much going on. Auditory and physical symptoms persisted throughout the 20 minute peaking experience. The come down was much like the downside of oral administration or fungi. After effects persisted for about 30 - 40 minutes after peak. All in all the elves have stumbled upon something wonderful and overall overwhleming.




It sounds like something that surpasses DMT: a much longer and intenser rush and an effect which lasts double as long, meaning one can get more useful experiences than the brief in-out of DMT

And: mushrooms are a rich source of 4-HO-DMT, usually containing 3-12gr per dried kilo, being 100-400 such excursions.

From the sound of it it might be as intense vaporized, or more so, than orally on a milligram basis. Lower doses might provide a one-hour mushroom trip.

If this holds true (and it sounds authentic to me) its going to be big, REAL big.


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Edited by Asante (04/28/06 05:47 PM)


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Asante]
    #5567759 - 04/28/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ne1 else here think that the fact that 28 grams DRY was only described as "more than DMT" is slightly.....oh i dunno.....bullshit? here's an experiment. smoke some dmt after eating 28 grams and see which one will fuck you sideways more. my bet is the shrooms.

i think that for that much, assuming no {P} is lost, then it would have been more intense, or you could have had multiple doses.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Foul_Breath]
    #5568106 - 04/28/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ne1 else here think that the fact that 28 grams DRY was only described as "more than DMT" is slightly.....oh i dunno.....bullshit?




You didnt read it correctly. He extracted a batch of Psilocybin from 1 oz and used 30mg of that extract, not the lot.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: Asante]
    #5568493 - 04/28/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Not per se.

Suddenly strongly heating a substance can turn it into a micron-sized airborne powder (read: smoke) which would decompose the substance if it weren't heated as briefly. This is the principle toy fireworks use to deliver colored smokes using dyes as fragile as psilocybin.
So it might actually happen and the prospect is quite exciting.

Quote:

with 30mg vaporized psilocybin:
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onset - 1 minute 30 seconds
peak - 20 minutes
aftereffects - 30-40 minutes
total duration - 50 minutes to 1 hour

.
The initial rush was more profound than vaporized DMT experiences but not as intense as 5meodmt vaporized. The visual aspect was that of DMT and maybe even a bit more, hard to say, there was much going on. Auditory and physical symptoms persisted throughout the 20 minute peaking experience. The come down was much like the downside of oral administration or fungi. After effects persisted for about 30 - 40 minutes after peak. All in all the elves have stumbled upon something wonderful and overall overwhleming.




It sounds like something that surpasses DMT: a much longer and intenser rush and an effect which lasts double as long, meaning one can get more useful experiences than the brief in-out of DMT

And: mushrooms are a rich source of 4-HO-DMT, usually containing 3-12gr per dried kilo, being 100-400 such excursions.

From the sound of it it might be as intense vaporized, or more so, than orally on a milligram basis. Lower doses might provide a one-hour mushroom trip.

If this holds true (and it sounds authentic to me) its going to be big, REAL big.




it would definately be more intense milligram to milligram vaporized than orally, smoking is just a much more efficient way to consume things.

also if the peak is 20 minutes, then that alot more than double the duration of DMT. DMT peaks are 2-5 minutes. feels like alot longer, but when you come back and look at the clock you are usually surprised at how little time passed. basically this sounds like it has about 3x or more the duration of DMT overall. for me DMT is usually a 2-5 min peak followed by 10 to 15 minutes of mushroom like after effects.

and i agree, if true, this is big. could be not only the perfect way to consume mushrooms, but the perfect drug.

I just dont see how an alcohol extraction would yeild a freebase.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5911845 - 07/29/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I usually wouldn't bring back an old thread, but this one is very interesting and I was wondering if anybody here actually ended up trying this themselves.


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5912255 - 07/29/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is most interesting. I genereally enjoy amanitas more than psilocybin/psilocin containing mushrooms. However if there is one thing I loves to do that is smokin stuffs!!!!


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5912303 - 07/29/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Intresting stuff, anyone do it yet?


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Re: smokable psilocin freebase? [Re: microsporum]
    #5912437 - 07/29/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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