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PF Tek Surgery - Solving Wet Jar ?
    #5561490 - 04/27/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I had been considering asking what I could do about saving a couple of cakes that are really over hydrated. I've been thinking it over alot, so I'm posting this under the tek modo with the assumption that it might work well, or might not. Im speculating and being hopefull, alot of my reasoning doesnt make much sense to me at times, but its all for fun right? Anywayz, what I've done, or what I did do was hopefully save one of my cakes from over hydration. I had milfed the intial recipe because it was my first PF BRF project and I didnt realize what proper moisture content was. SOo...hoping to correct this blantant error, is what I did.

1 - Opened wet jar (70%) withen a plastic bag.
2 - Through the lid in a containter of H202 to rinse.
3 - Shoveled out the junky verm (semi colonized crap).
4 - Spooned in some fresh pre cooked verm (didn't wet)
5 - Used clean lid already soaking for awhile, fastened
6 - Piled drived the jar into my hand to knock the cake loose.

This, unfortunately, did not move the stuborn mycelium. So, I left it and hopefully, in time, the dry verm will suck up the extra water and maybe the cake will sink back down.

I will post the results in a couple days, just for here say. Could anyone tell me now, whether this will work or not?? (IMO)

Thanks


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Re: PF Tek Surgery - Solving Wet Jar ? [Re: WIZOLZ]
    #5561848 - 04/27/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I would say that your methods were a little extreme. That dry vermic. layer works as a barrier to outside contams while allowing some gas exchange. You don't want that dry layer to absorb moisture. The best to hope for is that inverting the jar or loosening the lid will evaporate some of that drowning moisture. I would really be on the lookout for contam. in that jar now. And you can always remove the uncolonized portions if it simply will not finish colonizing. I always go with 1/4 cup water to one half-pint jar (with the PF tek). Let us know how that comes out. Peace.


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Re: PF Tek Surgery - Solving Wet Jar ? [Re: MLBjammer]
    #5561881 - 04/27/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i had the wet jar thing happen to me before.......

although, i am just a little confused to what you're doing.

i'm thinking that this jar has already been inoculated, and has had a significant amount of colonization? am i right?

if thats right, i think that if your wet substrate has already proven that it has the ability to colonize, maybe you should've left it alone....

it's a good experiment to try tho, don't get me wrong!

but, ive had a wet PF substrate problem before, and i left the jars alone......the eventually colonized 100% (it took a while, but they did!)
and the only thing i could do with them is spawn to hpoo, because they didn't slide out AT ALL....

but i think that's what you're trying to do, right? get them to the right moisture level so that you can birth them as cakes?


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Re: PF Tek Surgery - Solving Wet Jar ? [Re: cappsnstems]
    #5631232 - 05/15/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just to finalize this thread, so that people arnt left in the dark about the results. Basically, the jar I had performed the surgery on didnt get any dryer. I realized after that it was because the bottem had pasted up with myco piss and this unfortunately will not colonize. I should say though, that it didn't contaminate, though I had waited till the mycelium was 70% permeated already. I think what MLBjammer had mentioned about not wanting the top barrier layer to be wet was right. Anywayz...I'll be using the jar to spawn with considering its very tightly stuck in there.

What I would suggest for new cultivators is to definately ensure before you go filling the jars, that your BRF mix isnt overly wet or drenched. Bake them first, this helps the material obsorb way more moisture and spreads it evenly throughout. Dont open your jars either!

Conclusion = Tek failed...heh  :smirk:


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Re: PF Tek Surgery - Solving Wet Jar ? [Re: WIZOLZ]
    #5631537 - 05/15/06 07:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've seen some simply flip the jars and let the dry verm soak up the excess with success.


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