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MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms
    #5559481 - 04/26/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm trying to figure out ratios for each - - I would like a psychadelic experience on the heavier side, and have recently been inadvertently building a bit of tolerance for shrooms.

I have syrian rue, and was thinking about an hour ahead of time, dose 2 - 2 1/2 grams of powdered seeds mixed in tea, over the span of half-hour or so.

Then, take 2 1/2 - 3 grams of mushrooms, plain. Let that settle for 15 mins, then take 3 - 4 HBWR seeds in cold water.

I've never done MAOIs or HBWR, but I'm a confident voyager. Anyone have advice for this combo?


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: Hypercube]
    #5559549 - 04/26/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

do you consider 3 grams of mushrooms by themselves to be on the heavier side? If not then I think you are on the right track as far as the dose you might want to take.

If you are going to use maois, use 2.5-3 grams, not just 2. Might as well get the job done.

It would really help you out alot if you knew how serious maois are, and how extreemely hallucinogenic they can be by themselves, even at low doses.
I would suggest you take the HBWR before the shrooms. They just take a long time to come on.

If you used more maois than I just suggested, like 4 grams, you can be damn sure It will be on the heavier side. WAY too much for most people if you were to take it with 3 grams of shrooms and 3-4 HBWR.

Hbwr and mushrooms work very well together. Cant say Ive taken both with an maoi though.


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #5559621 - 04/26/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I was thinking of bumping up the rue to 3 grams....from most of the information I've aquired, that's enough for full MAO inhibition without too much *noticeable* qualitative alteration of the trip.

3 grams is a low-average dose of shrooms for me. I think I'll be quite happy with the results of this.

Thanks for the advice!


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: Hypercube]
    #5559673 - 04/26/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"from most of the information I've aquired, that's enough for full MAO inhibition without too much *noticeable* qualitative alteration of the trip".

Well put..............


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #5559719 - 04/26/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.

Well I put 4 WR seeds in the grinder, and it looked like such a meagre amount to be scraped off the sides of the grinder, so I tossed 3g rue and a handful of dried peppermint leaves in with 'em.  That's sitting in cold water.  I'm hoping A) the MAOI will take effect soon enough to potentiate the WR seeds and B) the peppermint will ward off nausea.

Looks like a sparkling magic brew now......I'm getting giddy here :grin:

I've got art supplies up the wazzoo should I feel the need, tonight.  There's something in the air...


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: Hypercube]
    #5559814 - 04/26/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing wrong with having some gram worth of rue prepared for later. 4 HBWR isnt much without maoi's.

Most people say harmala and harmaline only last for about 6 hours. Id say with confidence that 8-10 hours is a better number(s).
The 3 grams rue will indeed potentiate the HBWR if taken the way you have prepared them together.

HBWR and rue might be hard on the stomach, but if you have a descent diet it shouldnt be a problem. (You did follow the dietary precautions?).
Drink the whole tea including the powder to get anywhere near the full effects(Im sure you knew that).

Thats one hell of a concoction, Im almost excited to hear about it.

I wish you much luck on what should be a heavy journey once you take those shrooms. I have eaten 5 quality HBWR with 3 grams of rue and it was far more than a simple colorful experience. Given the fact that you are adding 3 grams of shrooms, dont expect this to stop when the maois have subsided. That type of experience for some lasts a good 24 hours. 14 hours for the most part, but with after effects far beyond your average 5 gram shroom trip or HBWR trip.
Youre getting into some heavy shit man.
Thats why the shamans say that some of the best work done with ayahuasca is in the following weeks or months. Ayahuasca traditionally has about 3 times the amount of maois you are taking, so thats why that experience is even more elongated than the one you are about to take.

Seriously good luck, and I hope to hear about it. To me, that mix just seems like a great idea, and I wish I could do the same, but that part of my life is over, It had to be........

Dont forget to some day try 12 or more HBWR by themselves. That its self can be very heavy if you have the right stuff.

I cant get over how magical your brew is going to be!


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #5561919 - 04/27/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This comes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

HAH! Fucking WOW.

Trip report coming in a few hours... stay tuned, jackals!


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: Hypercube]
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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: Hypercube]
    #5563901 - 04/27/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Those are some sweet flowers in your signatures. I recognize the morning glory, but what are the other two? Opium and..?


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Re: MAOIs, HBWR + Shrooms [Re: avapxia]
    #5563972 - 04/27/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

...passion flower.

You'd be amazed at how many people ask that, haha!


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