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enderwood
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ecstacy, its all just fun and games
#5559395 - 04/26/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd just like to warn everyone about ecstacy. I believe i have perminent effects from taking 2 and a 1/2 very strong pills, green diamonds, and smoking alot of pot while i was rolling.
You gotta ask yourself how far will you go for synthetic empathy. At the risk of sounding like an 'after school special', you dont need to mess your brain up to be happy. Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
You really dont like that fat guy who keyed your car
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559403 - 04/26/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boo I say! Boo!
What was in those pills?! "Ecstacy" means jack shit. Was it MDMA? Meth? What?
And what kind of "permanent effects" are you talking about? How long have they been occuring? Odds are 2.5 pills isn't going to have any permanent effects unless they were caked with something nasty.
How do you know what kind of discoveries and breakthroughs people have on any drugs, and who are you to judge those experiences?
Good day sir.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559431 - 04/26/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Real X, that is MDMA, has no proven permanent phyical or mental effects. You may have had something laced into it, becuase it is nearly impossible to find pure MDMA on the street now days. And never judge someone elses spiritual experiences. Can you give me the definition of a true and "unclouded spiritual expereince." No one can do that, if an expereince is life changing for someone than it doesnt matter by what means they attained it.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559458 - 04/26/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Aparently they had MDMA, and some meth. I cant really say the information from my High Schooling friends is credible.
After taking 2 and 1/2 at one time, i started hallucinating, like shrooms. The pot really intensified the visuals. Now everything has a kind of blue and red blurr over it (especialy indoors). I took E for the 5th time, after the 2 and a 1/2, i took 1 green diamond and i hallucinated again. The 2 and a 1/2, and the time after it, my eyes shook whenever i tried to focus, like they totaly shook every direction uncontrolably very fast.
Ezsefix, I can say that because it is a symptom, an effect everyone gets from the drug. People dont love everyone for a reason, E eliminates the reasoning.
By all means dont listen to me and go on a head and take E. It's all a lie, im trying to repress you. Someone sure is making alot of money from E.
I took Shrooms once and that might atribute to the perminent effects. Either way I think i screwed with my memory enough.
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Edited by enderwood (04/26/06 05:32 PM)
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559484 - 04/26/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry if I don't take advice on drugs from somebody who buys dirty pills from high schoolers 
Sounds like your pills had MDA (with little to no MDMA) and meth in 'em. Probably something else. Maybe find a better pill source before you start telling everybody how horrible "ecstacy" is.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559512 - 04/26/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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did you come here to spew anti-drug propaganda?
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559518 - 04/26/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Of course, I leave all of you to make your own decision about E, I'm not trying to control you. I'm just trying to help by sharing my experience.
Also, if indeed my pills were 'dirty', then that's even worse. Everytime you take a pill like E, you are taking a gamble.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559522 - 04/26/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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buy a testing kit.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Taco Chef]
#5559532 - 04/26/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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OMG "If indeed my pills were dirty"
YOU JUST SAID THEY HAD METH IN THEM! Stop taking drugs. Immediatly.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559547 - 04/26/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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HAHAHA anti-drug propaganda? no, I love shrooms, pot, alcohol, and many others. I'm going to try acid soon if I can find a source, and probably peyote. I am very interested in psychadelics. I will go the extra mile and take the extra dose above any of my friends, with salvia, shrooms or whatever.
But, you gotta think for yourself and have a head on your shoulder. You can like drugs, and not like ALL drugs.
Of course i 'like' E, but that doesnt mean I'm going to take it everyday.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559556 - 04/26/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmm Around here people say all E has meth in it. I did not know that made it 'dirty'. sorry for my ignorance. Maybe i haven't tried real E.
honestly I was just trying to help.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559588 - 04/26/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will go the extra mile and take the extra dose above any of my friends
That is your problem right there, buddy.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559610 - 04/26/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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some people were just not meant to alter their conscience, be it a chemical imbalance or a bad, hidden memory that pops up when the brain is functioning in that "altered" state. Either way, i wouldn't be spoutin my mouth off like your an expert on mdma when you don't even know that you were actually taking MDMA. Shit, I could press you a pill with the letters "MDMA" on it and pack it full of nasty shit like, pcp, dxm, meth, etc... and call it "tripple-stack pure". You, probably also a highschooler, would then buy it thinking you had some good quality shit, only to find out that some fuck has fried your brain with 50 other chemicals you werent expectin to take. From the sounds of it, you weren't even rolling; just jacked up on some GARBAGE! <--probably alot more than just meth and mda too. check out dancesafe.org , they got lots of pill results from all around the country.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: mecreateme]
#5559615 - 04/26/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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of course, responsibaly. I wouldn't take a dose larger than what is reccomended usualy, but I wont be afraid of that dose, while my freinds will. Most likely it is because of this site and all of the reports i have read, none of it is new to me. On our first trip, my friend had ego-splitting and thought he died and was scared out of his mind, i knew it was just normal.
maybe what i said about the exra mile and extra dose was a bit exadurated, but I am by far not anti-drug.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559633 - 04/26/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not 'spouting my mouth off'. My experiences left me with that conclusion. And i wasn't trying to offend or tell anyone not to take E, just inform. I geuss I'm more ignorant than any of you.
And ya shroomer, that's part of the reason why i won't take E again. Someone could easily stamp MDMA on a pill and fill it up with nasty chemicals, how would i know the difference?
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: shroomr4life]
#5559635 - 04/26/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: shroomr4life]
#5559664 - 04/26/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldnt ever take E, even the pure form(moley----> is how its spelled I think). I dont like the idea of something fucking with my brain in the specific way that mdma does. Its just a personal choice. I know how it works, so I wont put that particulare drug into my body.
This dude was just trying to share his story.
You can get off his back already. He has taken some form of what is considered to be mdma and didnt like it.
Lots of good info here, no need to start a war over it. Just relax and give the facts. Its not hard to be cool about a simple thing like this.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559679 - 04/26/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think it's good to get the word going! Ecstacy is soo dirty, it doesn't really have a recipe. It's all just chemicals, coke, herion, maybe traces of a hallucinogen and others just crammed into a pill! It is also very aaddictive and ruins your sex life :erectile disfunction! No... this isn't health class, it's real life! Stay cool and stay off the E!
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: colimon]
#5559708 - 04/26/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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SHUT UP COLIMON I TAKE E! YOUR STUPID! IF I TAKE E THEN IT'S NOT BAD FOR YOU! LEAVE AND TAKE YOUR ANTI-DRUG EVIL PROPAGANDA WITH YOU!
MY FWEND SAID E IS MAGIC IN A PILL SO IT CAN'T BE BAD!
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559728 - 04/26/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, as that's OBVIOUSLY what we sound like.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559737 - 04/26/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, that's the gist of it.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559746 - 04/26/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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did they have a LV on the other side of the diamond?????!!!????
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559753 - 04/26/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
The same could be said of the psychedelics your interested in.
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enderwood said: You really dint like that fat guy who keyed your car
No, he's a fucking dick!
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559862 - 04/26/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: I'd just like to warn everyone about ecstacy. I believe i have perminent effects from taking 2 and a 1/2 very strong pills, green diamonds, and smoking alot of pot while i was rolling.
You gotta ask yourself how far will you go for synthetic empathy. At the risk of sounding like an 'after school special', you dont need to mess your brain up to be happy. Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
You really dont like that fat guy who keyed your car
Must be the chemicals talking, MDMA has potential towards acting as a anti-depressant but we all know its not classed as a anti-depressant, but rarely and if the experience is incredibly profound the perception you take on life is altered, and for me it only took one triple-stack one night to wake up with actual empthay and ambition that sadly lasted for just weeks. It may not be a permanent change or it could be--though for me it wasnt I feel my friends who claim life changes due to minor or abusive interactions with the chemical MDMA changed their moods and perceptions for months and is still being said by my friends to have those same effects with no mood swings or instant evaporation of the feeling or called naturality by me since it seems to be natural now that my friends ambitions grew and is empthaised toward life and its diverse choices of life styles and some random hobbies he picked up with undying motivation towards it...so it IMO has the potential of a anti-depressant.
To bad it wouldn't change me so drastically because im not enthusiastic towards much of anything besides 1-3 things and I find myself usuall with nothing to do because nothing interests me. My ambitions are just trying to work towards a career I enjoy, and theres absolutely no motivation besides that of who think im slipping and should be pushed into trying harder, ah well its a crying shame to live everyday with no true happiness; you should enjoy every minute of your life and if you can't then its torture and wasteful! Im strongly against anti-depressants that are of SSRI properties or even SNRI. They would probably assemble anxiety thoughts due to my current persona, and all those suicides and crazy things or situations people get into or are gradually changed into deeper feelings of depression or moods that could get as worse as literally committing suicide since the brain is so altered indiferently it makes me wonder if one can actualy resist the vile thought of such an outrageously desperate act of insecurity just solely because the drug made the chemical balance in your chemical buildup so fugly. Yikes :\.
BTW MDMA has been known to cause phycosis or severe anxiety in some people. I seriously doubt 2-3 pills will kill you but depending on their properties and potency it must've been no easy number on your body.
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I dont think 2.5 pills of pure E could harm you, as long as you didn't do something else stupid while rolling. If you are really harmed, and its not in your mind, than it must have been dirty E
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Prolly MDMA w/ MDA... most common "speed based tabs"...
I used to buy multiple hundred packs and throw little apt rave parties I was pumpin out such good karma! Everoyne was so happy! Life will never be the same after tonight!
Yea... right... thats cuz after tonight you will wonder why you feel the same, and perform ALMOST the same, yet you have fluctuating moods and must constantly smoke weed to be happy.... its worth it.. right?
Not to discount the potential and for many very interactive spiritual enlightenments, but, Fuck extacy.
Im a product of overuse... im still smarter then a lot of people... brighter... faster... but i have to try harder in school now (make B's w/o studying, unlike before with A's, and i have a lot of emotional inbalances when i quit smoking for longer period of time so now im dependant on cannabis (i dont mean schwag, bitches, i smoke chronic nearly every day).
Its only when im on "shrooms" i feel "normal" (my thoughts, i think about things i should be thinking about).
I wouldnt trade my experiences for the world... my unique neurochemistry is what makes me everything i like about myself today...
E not in excess isnt too bad, but its eassy to go to excess
Every time i feel a little down i always wonder... but then i tell myself that lie again... i remind myself that the only way to move on is to pretend you are OK with your not-as-optimal hardware...
Stay herbal... you wont regret it...
-SDP
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Edited by SDP (04/26/06 07:11 PM)
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Taco Chef]
#5559892 - 04/26/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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novumorganum said: buy a testing kit.
explain?
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: SDP]
#5559906 - 04/26/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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SDP said: Prolly MDMA w/ MDA... most common "speed based tabs"...
I used to buy multiple hundred packs and throw little apt rave parties I was pumpin out such good karma! Everoyne was so happy! Life will never be the same after tonight!
Yea... right... thats cuz after tonight you will wonder why you feel the same, and perform ALMOST the same, yet you have fluctuating moods and must constantly smoke weed to be happy.... its worth it.. right?
Fuck extacy.
Im a product of overuse... im still smarter then a lot of people... brighter... faster... but i have to try harder in school now (make B's w/o studying, unlike before with A's, and i have a lot of emotional inbalances when i quit smoking for longer period of time so now im dependant on cannabis (i dont mean schwag, bitches, i smoke chronic nearly every day).
Its only when im on "shrooms" i feel "normal" (my thoughts, i think about things i should be thinking about).
I wouldnt trade my experiences for the world... my unique neurochemistry is what makes me everything i like about myself today...
E not in excess isnt too bad, but its eassy to go to excess
Stay herbal... you wont regret it...
-SDP
After 7 trips on E I never had mood swings or severe comedown or any comedowns at all since id about 5 out of 7 times crash during the middle of a decline. I havent done XTC for weeks but before that it was 4-6 months. Everyones different in all aspects of experienc"ing" a mind alteration, and trust me everyones minds are used differently really its what makes up our personality and so since everyones personality is different our reactions even if theyre incredibly similar or substantialy different are unique and never the same in every aspect such as thoughts during the trip and personal urges during an experience. 
Oh and MDMA, and MDA are the most sought after especially since MDMA "is" no doubt thy chemical name of what XTC is chemicaly meant to be. MDA is very very similar so i'd guess its a 2nd class derviate (forgot spellings, its the word meaning from or of a substance as a alternate but very similar in chemical structure and effects).
Im not sure if MDMA is at all a stimulant by itself, but im sure it is. Whenever I was rollin' on E a very intense flood of pleasure swept from my cranium and down. Almost like the way morphine just ingulfes your whole body and all the fugly pain just disappears. When the tablet was profoundly potent it would cause my eyes to roll towards the back of my skull without me really doing anything, and those times it was very close to a sedative feeling thats caused by opiates, but much more phsycedelical and much more in every sense--oh ho ho! much much MUCH more...im getting a feeling in the pit of my stomach just thinking about the blissfull curtain E kocks you up with.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559912 - 04/26/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: I'd just like to warn everyone about ecstacy. I believe i have perminent effects from taking 2 and a 1/2 very strong pills, green diamonds, and smoking alot of pot while i was rolling.
You gotta ask yourself how far will you go for synthetic empathy. At the risk of sounding like an 'after school special', you dont need to mess your brain up to be happy. Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
You really dont like that fat guy who keyed your car
Someone needs to watch Ecstasy Rising... http://mm.hyperreal.info/video/Peter_Jennings_Reporting-Ecstasy_Rising_WABC_01_04_2004_DIVX-1.avi
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: MustardMan]
#5559925 - 04/26/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, i respect everyones right to do drugs. but we dont really need drugs to have a spiritual experience. mushrooms and lsd, all they do is jump start your head. some people just get random hallucinations when they trip, rather than some spiritual experience like everyone wants. the reality is, drugs are no more than a catalyst to the mind and sometimes just the opposite. everything that you need for your spirituality is within yourself. and my spirituality wouldnt be the way it is if it werent for the drugs ive done and things ive gone through, but spirituality is an entirely personal thing. if you need drugs to understand something, it should make you think. whats wrong with me, my ego, and the world that i am influenced by to have me so blind to what is with in myself. the only thing that makes us who we are.
the reality is, were afraid of ourselves more than anything and we use drugs to get over that fear. although sometimes we use them recreationally, but spirtually that is.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559979 - 04/26/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i agree, Ecstasy is nasty, and the aftereffects can be profoundly unnerving. I've got a tidbit for anyone browsing this who is considering doing Ecstasy in the future, however. The icon on the pill press 99% of the time won't tell you a damn thing, however the reason a diamond is commonly slapped on those pill slurries we call Ecstasy is to advertise the fact that they contain meth... "Christal" or whathaveyou, in addition to whatever amount of MDMA.
hope your vision clears up soon!
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560036 - 04/26/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well you havta realise that LSD, shrooms, or any hullcinagetic substance, even though is easily viewed as "recreational". It really isnt all that enjoyable to a lot of people, and for me its fun and somewhat enjoyable but its not profound besides its very vivid life like hullcinations, but also the joy out of LSD is a strong feeling that does make it blissful in some if not a lot of predicaments for somepeople, but for some its hell projected through your eyes and possessive towards your minds thoughts and feelings. It shows that before the Doctor who started the group here in America during the 60's? He had been the first to report an enjoyable profoundness from LSD and then started the big rave that was also provoked by other siuations that occured at that point in time, situations in which I will not go on about (take a big ol' sigh for that one; no more paragraphical reading! ). Many people reported LSD to be more spiritual and insightful rather than being more recreationaly abusive in its use. Its really a drug to be respected and loved because its just so intense if it wasnt taken under the right state of mind or mental illnesses then a very bad and "long" trip is most likely to be had. So if you want a possibility of an 6hr-8hr trip to be awful than understand that the pomp of LSD is one with many arrays for every LSD trip thats expereinced by the user/manipulator.
I prefer shrooms over LSD for a more enjoyable trip, mescaline is prefered over shrooms for its huge difference that is substantialy greater effects that dont generaly regard hullcinating rather its more mentaly pleasing, and extremely more gentle compared to LSD and somewhat to shrooms, and 2C-E over them all for its vivid hullcinations that seem to have mostly just morphing shapes and sometimes other apparent hullcinations that make up different things. 2C-E also has a nice feelings that is akwardly intense, but not at all disorientating or confusing. Extreme concentration isnt possible for me but being able to focus somewhat is quit easily and at lower doses than 15mg is almost disasterous towards the substances effects. Typing on 2C-E is oddly enjoyable especially when the windows on my browser disconnect in the middle and form odd pyramid shapes at times. 
LSD and shrooms would get me so fugly in motor skills and my focus would be no where near how clear minded 2C-E is and even so 2C-E can be a very intense feeling, but 20mg+ seems to add a more noticeable brain bash...woooo!
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5560452 - 04/26/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not to be an asshole but this thread is about E.
Thanks for the info Psilocy, i didn't know that about the diamonds. That's probably a good thing to stay away from.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5560484 - 04/26/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you all would look beyond yourselves you would realize you dont need drugs. just an open minded way of learning.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560517 - 04/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont need drugs i just enjoy them
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560519 - 04/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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EXACTLY KIDGARD! you dont need some manufactured chemical, that was made with greedy intent, to be happy. That is all E is, happyness in a pill. psychelics dont necessarily make you happy, they can open your mind or just be weird and fun, abstract is a good word.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560528 - 04/26/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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In my opinion it's the fact that you went through such an insane ride with a large psychidelic dose (shrooms, salvia, ect), that you actually learn something about yourself, and how you react to it.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
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i kinda restated it. but, i enjoy drugs. however, shrooms are quiet a catalyst for my creativity and how innovative i can get.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
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http://www.ecstasydata.org/ Learn it, use it, be safe.
There's nothing wrong with putting any chemical in your body so long as you know what exactly what it is that you're putting in. Know what you're using, and what it could do to you. Make your own decisions. Accept your own consequences.
Once you've gone that far and you know the risks, anything any chemical teaches you can be an experience, whether it makes you trip or not.
Hell, you can learn a lot about your world and your body just by changing your diet for a few days if you're in tune enough with things.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
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well according to this handbook i found drugs destroy your creativity
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: wiggles]
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What you take as perminate effects just might be shifts in yourself that you dont like and seem like your just trying to deny.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: DeathCompany]
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well according to this handbook i found drugs destroy your creativity
Drugs turned me into a newt.
What? I got better...
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: wiggles]
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well i took drugs once and got stuck in a bottle full of pills
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560585 - 04/26/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"if you all would look beyond yourselves you would realize you dont need drugs. just an open minded way of learning".
Dude, im sick of hearing the "all natural" bullcrap(although I know you enjoy drugs). There is no way in the world you can have a psychedelic experience like that which lsd, mushrooms or ayahuasca provide without the drug.
KidgardFromSRQ, If you can equate meditation or something to the psychedelic experience thats fine. To understand what these drugs can provide you need the drugs. No matter how shallow or deep it gets, its entirely different than any more natural state of mind you can create yourself. These drugs fascilitate mental processes that you dont have readily available to you without them. SO enough with the all natural crap. To say "You dont need drugs to get there" is just a not logical. Im not going to explain it any further, but this is far more than VERY obvious to me. I understand this is a thread about one of the less profound drugs, so let it take shape.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: so_me_tuo]
#5560594 - 04/26/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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so_me_tuo said: What you take as perminate effects just might be shifts in yourself that you dont like and seem like your just trying to deny.
Would anyone like blue and red blurs over everything indoors?
I doubt I would just start having strange eyesight problems for no reason, but then again i really dont know.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560616 - 04/26/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmm I thought kidgard meant something more along the lines of, 'you dont need drugs to be happy'.
It's obvious you can't have a psychedelic experience without psychadelics, but E is not really a psychedelic at normal doses, just a mood upper. Taking more than a normal dose is just stupid, unless all of the anti-E info is wrong, which it very well could be, but I dont want to tae the chance.
FYI, the blurs started when i peaked from the 2 and 1/2, and never went away.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560637 - 04/26/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood, i would just abandon your thread right now.
No one knows what the hell they are talking about, and/or they want to bash you while giving good info.
Id requote se_me_tuo but I dont think its necessary to bad mouth him or give him some form of enlightenment that he didnt ask for..(hint).
SOme people are so damn boring or simple that they have no idea what you are talking about. Abandon the thread.........
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: wiggles]
#5560643 - 04/26/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What you take as perminate effects just might be shifts in yourself that you dont like and seem like your just trying to deny.
everything is just energy. diffrent energys produce diffrent effects. diffrent concious or unconcious decitions make those energys what they are. what ever those energys do to anyother existance is totaly real to what ever is experianceing that. the being experiancing that may not be looking at it with out there ego so they are puting all these made up games infront of it or not. drugs are energies that unlock parts of your life. if you look at theme though you ego you will see it as "the drug clouding your mind" but when you realize that its the energy of the durg unlocking you and being part of you do realize that you creat the experiance not the drug entirly joint effort.
Why dont you think that everyone loves everyone. "the guy who keyed your car" is just another human he didnt key your car your car has been keyed, the man is. you dont own the car the car just is. owner ship is a made up game. so is the fact that people cant all love and like each other. we are all the same human just diffrent physical embodyments of it and our personallitys but beyond that we are one. if you dont love everyone even people who creat bad vibes and energy then you just cant totaly love yourself. if you love your enemy then you cant get caught in the same game. if you just step out side of the hate game you me duality of things you realize that the only diffrence between diffrent kinds of people is all the secrects and house keys.
as for perminate effects when you have truely felt something in your life that is so meaning full part of you is always going to feel it deep down somewere. you deny it will only make you life worse. go with what is happeneing not against it.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: so_me_tuo]
#5560670 - 04/26/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Define "shifts in yourself" for us all.......as it pertains to visual effects(to make it simple).
I prefer the word "changes" to the word "shifts".
Be sure to thank the shaman tau.. But he does make hallucinogens out to be so very simple, though what he said is so very interesting.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: stemmer]
#5560703 - 04/26/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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In my interpretation of what he said shifts is a much more accurate word. You assemblage point shifts, thus what you experience is different.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5560721 - 04/26/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Changes" is more objective but the same really. Cause and effect...... Im not here to argue.
Drugs are not as simple as so many here would like to portray.
The whole, "what you experience is there already in full form" thing is just a bit much for me.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: stemmer]
#5560732 - 04/26/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOW SO_ME_TUO, YOU OPENED MY MIND TO NEW POSSIBILITIES!
Dude...i never said 'hate', i mean, you choose not to talk to, or involve yourself, with certain people for a reason, because of their actions. Because, simply, in our society there are bounderies of what people can say or do, and they knew this and still crossed the boundery, it does not matter if it really 'matters', they probably thought it did (because most people do), and did not care enough not to cross it.
There is no fat guy, it was suppose to be a funny example.
It is the person's action. Their choices. If the fat guy decided to key your car (a major offense in our society), then they should be prepared to not be liked by the person who owned the car.
Yes, unfortunatly, drugs are extremely complex, and so is our physiology.
I'm sorry stemmer, i had to
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560766 - 04/26/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are over anilyzing and trying to be some-how more enlightened and better than everyone else. (or maybe i am over anilyzing )
yes, ownership is a made-up game. It is a tool, a society tool, so people can have something they want or need, without worrying about decent people taking or using it. If people did not think this way, we would probably not have what we have today.
not liking someone, is the term used to represent the feeling or action. If someone shit in their hand and through it at you, your brain would take the information and make a decision of wether this person is worth being in the same area as. It's not some kind of cover-up.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560779 - 04/26/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Que? I dont know who you are talking to is all...........
If your talking to to me I think you missed my point. If your not talking to me, try to be more direct next time.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: stemmer]
#5560795 - 04/26/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm talking to so_me_tuo.
I meant sorry, i had to explain and keep this thread going
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560818 - 04/26/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right-O.
This was a very interesting thread in its own way.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: stemmer]
#5560865 - 04/26/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just gotta add one more thing. The theory of everything being there, and the needing the drug to unlock it, is just that, a theory. The potential for the experiences is obviously there, bits and peices needed to form something.
I really doubt you already decided to love someone for no reason, but you needed the E to realize it. You have the POTENTIAL.
The empathy and love you feel on E is already explained, your decisions on how to act or how to react to something are changed by the seritonin and such. right?
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5561081 - 04/26/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't understand why you would need or even want more than one pill. I agree, it sounds like you had some MDA and meth. Meth IS bad for your brain, MDMA could be bad for your brain if you do it alof, and MDA is supposed to be a little worse.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5561236 - 04/27/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Divided_Sky said: I don't understand why you would need or even want more than one pill. I agree, it sounds like you had some MDA and meth. Meth IS bad for your brain, MDMA could be bad for your brain if you do it alof, and MDA is supposed to be a little worse.
Meth is very bad for your brain. The study that said that MDMA burns holes in your brain got their info from giving a chemical to a bunch of monkeys. The monkeys were then euthanized, and their brains were removed for examination. There were patches of brain matter that showed obvious signs of damage.
This was posted, but very soon after retracted when the scientists found out that the drug that their supplier had sent them was not in fact MDMA, but pure Methamphetamine.
It didn't really matter though, the anti-drug folks already had the info that they needed. I an get the names of the article and the retraction if you'd like - i have access to them through psychINFO.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Divided_Sky]
#5561245 - 04/27/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's some good info wiggles.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5561608 - 04/27/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: Aparently they had MDMA, and some meth. I cant really say the information from my High Schooling friends is credible.
After taking 2 and 1/2 at one time, i started hallucinating, like shrooms. The pot really intensified the visuals. Now everything has a kind of blue and red blurr over it (especialy indoors). I took E for the 5th time, after the 2 and a 1/2, i took 1 green diamond and i hallucinated again. The 2 and a 1/2, and the time after it, my eyes shook whenever i tried to focus, like they totaly shook every direction uncontrolably very fast.
Ezsefix, I can say that because it is a symptom, an effect everyone gets from the drug. People dont love everyone for a reason, E eliminates the reasoning.
By all means dont listen to me and go on a head and take E. It's all a lie, im trying to repress you. Someone sure is making alot of money from E.
I took Shrooms once and that might atribute to the perminent effects. Either way I think i screwed with my memory enough.
Hmm I dont know..have you ever thought of it the other way around? Maybe MDMA breaks down those artifical walls we create in our normal consciousness against people..I dont know from my experience with it, it's almost as if I'm more 'sober' when I'm on it just because it brings to surface the defense mechanisms we use to block out people and effectively shatters them..revealing compassion and empathy for everyone. Maybe we should strive for that without it? Just my opinion.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: OMniversal]
#5561636 - 04/27/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You miss the point. I dont feel like elaborating, maybe tomarrow.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
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I'm not talking about 'artificial walls', I'm talking about if someone has acted in such a way that you dont want to know them, and E gives you the feeling that you understand them, it is the E making you ilogical and without reason.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5566171 - 04/28/06 08:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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not any of that is really simple its just things can be looked at on a smaller scale and easyer to understand. as when looking at them though our regular eyes is sometime difficult to understand.
I really dont mean any thing with any agressive or mean intention at all. please dont take it that way I really just get into writing and get taken away is all. Not saying Im right just puting more Ideas into the pool.
as for the study on monkeys and MDMA dennis mckenna is the one on that and he gave it to two monkeys. the first get gave some crazy amount of pills every two hours for like a day or half a day. to keep the roll going like alot of people do. all his receptor sites were done for and was in very bad shape. the other monkey he gave the same amount all at once he just rolled for a long time and way fine. it just the dose to keep it going that gets you.
I just feel like realizing in the world in terms of energy makes it much easyer to understand and notice in yourself and those around you what energy goes with the flow and what does not.
really not trying to be any more anything than anyone just applying the same looking to the world that I apply to myself not saying I am above all of this at all deffintly difficult to human. its just to really fix anything you have to step outside of it.
as for logic to the egoless mind its non existant. E doesnt make you illogical that only you thinking its illogical. really you make your world try to make it better why have anything be shitty when it can be good. if something is happening to you that you dont like or already had happen just embrace it.
I am just putting ideas into the pool. I just try my hardest to look at things from the outside to make things better for everyone. like I said we are all one human I am just try to make us a better human no negitive feeling intented. please dont take me as some dude trying to sound more somthing than any of you just trying to help.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: stemmer]
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stemmer said: I wouldnt ever take E, even the pure form(moley----> is how its spelled I think). I dont like the idea of something fucking with my brain in the specific way that mdma does. Its just a personal choice. I know how it works, so I wont put that particulare drug into my body.
This dude was just trying to share his story.
You can get off his back already. He has taken some form of what is considered to be mdma and didnt like it.
Lots of good info here, no need to start a war over it. Just relax and give the facts. Its not hard to be cool about a simple thing like this.
couldn't have said it better myself. I completely agree with you. thats why i stick to weed, shrooms, and maybe someday ill try acid.
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