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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: ezsefix]
#5559737 - 04/26/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, that's the gist of it.
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the_psychonaut
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559746 - 04/26/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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did they have a LV on the other side of the diamond?????!!!????
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EmpTyCLosEtSpAcE
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559753 - 04/26/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
The same could be said of the psychedelics your interested in.
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enderwood said: You really dint like that fat guy who keyed your car
No, he's a fucking dick!
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Muppet69_420
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559862 - 04/26/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: I'd just like to warn everyone about ecstacy. I believe i have perminent effects from taking 2 and a 1/2 very strong pills, green diamonds, and smoking alot of pot while i was rolling.
You gotta ask yourself how far will you go for synthetic empathy. At the risk of sounding like an 'after school special', you dont need to mess your brain up to be happy. Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
You really dont like that fat guy who keyed your car
Must be the chemicals talking, MDMA has potential towards acting as a anti-depressant but we all know its not classed as a anti-depressant, but rarely and if the experience is incredibly profound the perception you take on life is altered, and for me it only took one triple-stack one night to wake up with actual empthay and ambition that sadly lasted for just weeks. It may not be a permanent change or it could be--though for me it wasnt I feel my friends who claim life changes due to minor or abusive interactions with the chemical MDMA changed their moods and perceptions for months and is still being said by my friends to have those same effects with no mood swings or instant evaporation of the feeling or called naturality by me since it seems to be natural now that my friends ambitions grew and is empthaised toward life and its diverse choices of life styles and some random hobbies he picked up with undying motivation towards it...so it IMO has the potential of a anti-depressant.
To bad it wouldn't change me so drastically because im not enthusiastic towards much of anything besides 1-3 things and I find myself usuall with nothing to do because nothing interests me. My ambitions are just trying to work towards a career I enjoy, and theres absolutely no motivation besides that of who think im slipping and should be pushed into trying harder, ah well its a crying shame to live everyday with no true happiness; you should enjoy every minute of your life and if you can't then its torture and wasteful! Im strongly against anti-depressants that are of SSRI properties or even SNRI. They would probably assemble anxiety thoughts due to my current persona, and all those suicides and crazy things or situations people get into or are gradually changed into deeper feelings of depression or moods that could get as worse as literally committing suicide since the brain is so altered indiferently it makes me wonder if one can actualy resist the vile thought of such an outrageously desperate act of insecurity just solely because the drug made the chemical balance in your chemical buildup so fugly. Yikes :\.
BTW MDMA has been known to cause phycosis or severe anxiety in some people. I seriously doubt 2-3 pills will kill you but depending on their properties and potency it must've been no easy number on your body.
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Edited by Muppet69_420 (04/26/06 07:10 PM)
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MustardMan
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I dont think 2.5 pills of pure E could harm you, as long as you didn't do something else stupid while rolling. If you are really harmed, and its not in your mind, than it must have been dirty E
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SDP
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Prolly MDMA w/ MDA... most common "speed based tabs"...
I used to buy multiple hundred packs and throw little apt rave parties I was pumpin out such good karma! Everoyne was so happy! Life will never be the same after tonight!
Yea... right... thats cuz after tonight you will wonder why you feel the same, and perform ALMOST the same, yet you have fluctuating moods and must constantly smoke weed to be happy.... its worth it.. right?
Not to discount the potential and for many very interactive spiritual enlightenments, but, Fuck extacy.
Im a product of overuse... im still smarter then a lot of people... brighter... faster... but i have to try harder in school now (make B's w/o studying, unlike before with A's, and i have a lot of emotional inbalances when i quit smoking for longer period of time so now im dependant on cannabis (i dont mean schwag, bitches, i smoke chronic nearly every day).
Its only when im on "shrooms" i feel "normal" (my thoughts, i think about things i should be thinking about).
I wouldnt trade my experiences for the world... my unique neurochemistry is what makes me everything i like about myself today...
E not in excess isnt too bad, but its eassy to go to excess
Every time i feel a little down i always wonder... but then i tell myself that lie again... i remind myself that the only way to move on is to pretend you are OK with your not-as-optimal hardware...
Stay herbal... you wont regret it...
-SDP
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
Edited by SDP (04/26/06 07:11 PM)
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MustardMan
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Taco Chef]
#5559892 - 04/26/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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novumorganum said: buy a testing kit.
explain?
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Muppet69_420
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: SDP]
#5559906 - 04/26/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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SDP said: Prolly MDMA w/ MDA... most common "speed based tabs"...
I used to buy multiple hundred packs and throw little apt rave parties I was pumpin out such good karma! Everoyne was so happy! Life will never be the same after tonight!
Yea... right... thats cuz after tonight you will wonder why you feel the same, and perform ALMOST the same, yet you have fluctuating moods and must constantly smoke weed to be happy.... its worth it.. right?
Fuck extacy.
Im a product of overuse... im still smarter then a lot of people... brighter... faster... but i have to try harder in school now (make B's w/o studying, unlike before with A's, and i have a lot of emotional inbalances when i quit smoking for longer period of time so now im dependant on cannabis (i dont mean schwag, bitches, i smoke chronic nearly every day).
Its only when im on "shrooms" i feel "normal" (my thoughts, i think about things i should be thinking about).
I wouldnt trade my experiences for the world... my unique neurochemistry is what makes me everything i like about myself today...
E not in excess isnt too bad, but its eassy to go to excess
Stay herbal... you wont regret it...
-SDP
After 7 trips on E I never had mood swings or severe comedown or any comedowns at all since id about 5 out of 7 times crash during the middle of a decline. I havent done XTC for weeks but before that it was 4-6 months. Everyones different in all aspects of experienc"ing" a mind alteration, and trust me everyones minds are used differently really its what makes up our personality and so since everyones personality is different our reactions even if theyre incredibly similar or substantialy different are unique and never the same in every aspect such as thoughts during the trip and personal urges during an experience. 
Oh and MDMA, and MDA are the most sought after especially since MDMA "is" no doubt thy chemical name of what XTC is chemicaly meant to be. MDA is very very similar so i'd guess its a 2nd class derviate (forgot spellings, its the word meaning from or of a substance as a alternate but very similar in chemical structure and effects).
Im not sure if MDMA is at all a stimulant by itself, but im sure it is. Whenever I was rollin' on E a very intense flood of pleasure swept from my cranium and down. Almost like the way morphine just ingulfes your whole body and all the fugly pain just disappears. When the tablet was profoundly potent it would cause my eyes to roll towards the back of my skull without me really doing anything, and those times it was very close to a sedative feeling thats caused by opiates, but much more phsycedelical and much more in every sense--oh ho ho! much much MUCH more...im getting a feeling in the pit of my stomach just thinking about the blissfull curtain E kocks you up with.
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I live to learn and learn to live. forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... ....thats as old as my account... On that note fart in public and grin. Hail Shroomery!
Edited by Muppet69_420 (04/26/06 07:23 PM)
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559912 - 04/26/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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enderwood said: I'd just like to warn everyone about ecstacy. I believe i have perminent effects from taking 2 and a 1/2 very strong pills, green diamonds, and smoking alot of pot while i was rolling.
You gotta ask yourself how far will you go for synthetic empathy. At the risk of sounding like an 'after school special', you dont need to mess your brain up to be happy. Any profound discoveries about life and 'breakthroughs' about important issues you think you have attained on E is just the drug clouding your mind.
You really dont like that fat guy who keyed your car
Someone needs to watch Ecstasy Rising... http://mm.hyperreal.info/video/Peter_Jennings_Reporting-Ecstasy_Rising_WABC_01_04_2004_DIVX-1.avi
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: MustardMan]
#5559925 - 04/26/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, i respect everyones right to do drugs. but we dont really need drugs to have a spiritual experience. mushrooms and lsd, all they do is jump start your head. some people just get random hallucinations when they trip, rather than some spiritual experience like everyone wants. the reality is, drugs are no more than a catalyst to the mind and sometimes just the opposite. everything that you need for your spirituality is within yourself. and my spirituality wouldnt be the way it is if it werent for the drugs ive done and things ive gone through, but spirituality is an entirely personal thing. if you need drugs to understand something, it should make you think. whats wrong with me, my ego, and the world that i am influenced by to have me so blind to what is with in myself. the only thing that makes us who we are.
the reality is, were afraid of ourselves more than anything and we use drugs to get over that fear. although sometimes we use them recreationally, but spirtually that is.
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psilocy
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5559979 - 04/26/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i agree, Ecstasy is nasty, and the aftereffects can be profoundly unnerving. I've got a tidbit for anyone browsing this who is considering doing Ecstasy in the future, however. The icon on the pill press 99% of the time won't tell you a damn thing, however the reason a diamond is commonly slapped on those pill slurries we call Ecstasy is to advertise the fact that they contain meth... "Christal" or whathaveyou, in addition to whatever amount of MDMA.
hope your vision clears up soon!
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Muppet69_420
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560036 - 04/26/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well you havta realise that LSD, shrooms, or any hullcinagetic substance, even though is easily viewed as "recreational". It really isnt all that enjoyable to a lot of people, and for me its fun and somewhat enjoyable but its not profound besides its very vivid life like hullcinations, but also the joy out of LSD is a strong feeling that does make it blissful in some if not a lot of predicaments for somepeople, but for some its hell projected through your eyes and possessive towards your minds thoughts and feelings. It shows that before the Doctor who started the group here in America during the 60's? He had been the first to report an enjoyable profoundness from LSD and then started the big rave that was also provoked by other siuations that occured at that point in time, situations in which I will not go on about (take a big ol' sigh for that one; no more paragraphical reading! ). Many people reported LSD to be more spiritual and insightful rather than being more recreationaly abusive in its use. Its really a drug to be respected and loved because its just so intense if it wasnt taken under the right state of mind or mental illnesses then a very bad and "long" trip is most likely to be had. So if you want a possibility of an 6hr-8hr trip to be awful than understand that the pomp of LSD is one with many arrays for every LSD trip thats expereinced by the user/manipulator.
I prefer shrooms over LSD for a more enjoyable trip, mescaline is prefered over shrooms for its huge difference that is substantialy greater effects that dont generaly regard hullcinating rather its more mentaly pleasing, and extremely more gentle compared to LSD and somewhat to shrooms, and 2C-E over them all for its vivid hullcinations that seem to have mostly just morphing shapes and sometimes other apparent hullcinations that make up different things. 2C-E also has a nice feelings that is akwardly intense, but not at all disorientating or confusing. Extreme concentration isnt possible for me but being able to focus somewhat is quit easily and at lower doses than 15mg is almost disasterous towards the substances effects. Typing on 2C-E is oddly enjoyable especially when the windows on my browser disconnect in the middle and form odd pyramid shapes at times. 
LSD and shrooms would get me so fugly in motor skills and my focus would be no where near how clear minded 2C-E is and even so 2C-E can be a very intense feeling, but 20mg+ seems to add a more noticeable brain bash...woooo!
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I live to learn and learn to live. forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... ....thats as old as my account... On that note fart in public and grin. Hail Shroomery!
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enderwood
the kerosenedream machine

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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5560452 - 04/26/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not to be an asshole but this thread is about E.
Thanks for the info Psilocy, i didn't know that about the diamonds. That's probably a good thing to stay away from.
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5560484 - 04/26/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you all would look beyond yourselves you would realize you dont need drugs. just an open minded way of learning.
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Edited by KidgardFromSRQ (04/26/06 09:27 PM)
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DeathCompany
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560517 - 04/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont need drugs i just enjoy them
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560519 - 04/26/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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EXACTLY KIDGARD! you dont need some manufactured chemical, that was made with greedy intent, to be happy. That is all E is, happyness in a pill. psychelics dont necessarily make you happy, they can open your mind or just be weird and fun, abstract is a good word.
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enderwood
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560528 - 04/26/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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In my opinion it's the fact that you went through such an insane ride with a large psychidelic dose (shrooms, salvia, ect), that you actually learn something about yourself, and how you react to it.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560530 - 04/26/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i kinda restated it. but, i enjoy drugs. however, shrooms are quiet a catalyst for my creativity and how innovative i can get.
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wiggles
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: enderwood]
#5560540 - 04/26/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.ecstasydata.org/ Learn it, use it, be safe.
There's nothing wrong with putting any chemical in your body so long as you know what exactly what it is that you're putting in. Know what you're using, and what it could do to you. Make your own decisions. Accept your own consequences.
Once you've gone that far and you know the risks, anything any chemical teaches you can be an experience, whether it makes you trip or not.
Hell, you can learn a lot about your world and your body just by changing your diet for a few days if you're in tune enough with things.
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Re: ecstacy, its all just fun and games [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5560547 - 04/26/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well according to this handbook i found drugs destroy your creativity
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