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hints of mean green
    #5558830 - 04/26/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So today I went over to my friends house where I am doing my "research" and I looked at the quart jar that I have been colonizing...and it had hints of green. I would say about 90% white 10% green.

There was about half of the jar that was dried out with the original grain color with tints of green...the myc hadn't reached it yet. So I figured it was time to get the show on the road.

What I did was sterilize the room and threw the loose grain out and broke up the 90%white/10%green grain into about 7lbs of prepasturized hpoo. Closed the fruiting chamber and put it in the closet.

What do you guys think my chances for success are? The jar still smelled VERY mushroom-like. And I'm not REAL worried about the poo because it is very available to me in my neck of the woods.

Comments resulting from experience would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5558836 - 04/26/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

can you say mean grean contam


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: trauma47645]
    #5558945 - 04/26/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I can...but that still doesn't answer my question. I read a post by Roger Rabbit and he said that he has seen substrate with contams in it effectively produce potent mushrooms. Since the myc. content is MUCH greater that the green content I figured it may work.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5559231 - 04/26/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm in about the same situation at figment, i have a jar that is about 90% colonized and today i looked at it an there is the smallest bit of green contam. i was wondering if there was anyway at all of saving this cake.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: norml56]
    #5559342 - 04/26/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

well here is what i did, took the cake out an heated up a scaple and cut off the mold an good portion of the mycelium that was surrounding the mold there was only about 4specks of green mold about size of pen tip. and i got it all. i took the remaining substrate and cased it out. hopin it'll work out for the best.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: norml56]
    #5559375 - 04/26/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

not to rain on your parade, but the green color is the spores of the trich. it's hard/impossible to remove because the myc of the undesirable mold is white. i hope it works out for you, but don't be surprised if it doesnt.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: TrippingDuality]
    #5561318 - 04/27/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i'm not gonna be at all surprised if it comes back, i'm just gonna try it since it's the only cake i had goin.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5561411 - 04/27/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes I can...but that still doesn't answer my question. I read a post by Roger Rabbit and he said that he has seen substrate with contams in it effectively produce potent mushrooms. Since the myc. content is MUCH greater that the green content I figured it may work.




I think you misunderstood the post. I've often said a substrate that gets a bit of green as the fruits are ready to harvest should be tossed out, but the fruits are safe to eat.

In your case, you spawned a contaminated jar to bulk substrate. That is guaranteed to fail. Sorry.
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Re: hints of mean green [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5578838 - 05/01/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just to let everyone know. The green did go away and the myc is taking over.  Experiment successful!!! 1/2 pint colonized WBS to 7 lbs. of hpoo :headbanger:


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: TrippingDuality]
    #5578876 - 05/01/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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not to rain on your parade, but the green color is the spores of the trich. it's hard/impossible to remove because the myc of the undesirable mold is white. i hope it works out for you, but don't be surprised if it doesnt.




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Re: hints of mean green [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5579222 - 05/01/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well it did go away...there is absolutely NO green in there. Only solid white clumps and it's starting to spread. So what's up? Is there STILL a problem? Maybe I'll find out, but until then, has anyone else had experience with flatened snow-flake like myc on top with yellow tinge in the middle? I feel the need to say NO GREEN again. sorry.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5579361 - 05/01/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well it could have been bruising, it can look greenish, and mycelium can it seem to 'self' bruise with no contact.

If it was the mean green I highly doubt that it would work out.

Did your jar look like this,


I dont have a bruised one, but is can look kinda green but not like that one.

And if it was cool, I just never heard that before. I would agree with what RR said.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5580990 - 05/02/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you saw GREEN in your jar (If it was trich you can easily tell after your first run in) that means there were thousands if not more trich spores in your jar.

As said Green mold has white mycelium and green spores. If you did spawn those jars and found that only why mycelium could be seen then it may only be a matter of time before it starts turning green.


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: musher_420]
    #5581414 - 05/02/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yup.  solid white clumps with yellow tinge = exactly what green looks like before it turns green.

your experiment was successful if your intent was a bulk grow of green mold. :smile:


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: creamcorn]
    #5581639 - 05/02/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well guys, just looked at it again today and there is still no green and definately no yellow. Must be an enigma strain...who knows. But there are newly developing clumps of myc every day throughout the hpoo with again, no green or yellow. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? I was told I was DOOMED...DOOMED I tell you!!! WTF?


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: figment]
    #5583380 - 05/02/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Mhmm.... well uhh, it may have been bruising. If it was infact the mean green- IF, then it is somwhere.  I have even heard a few cases of growers harvesting a successful crop, only to turn the colonized substrate over, or take it out of its pan and find the underside totally contaminated.  bad times.

No need to get defensive man.  Don't get hostile with those who are here to help you.  We wish you the best of luck with your crop, but we also don't want you to invest more time and effort and raw material into what will undoubtedly lead to failure.  Nore do we want anyone to die or get sick from misinformation.

Keep us posted.  :smile:


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Re: hints of mean green [Re: musher_420]
    #5587700 - 05/03/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Um - actually most green molds are aspergillus and penicillium - trich is quite different to molds - and it usually attacks casing layers rather than substrates.


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