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colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup
    #5553994 - 04/25/06 04:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

now it's on its 10th day and nearly same as the 5th day.room temp. is about 24c-18 c,spawn ratio is about 1:7
what can be done?
what's your average sub. colonization time in mono tubs?
any comments wellcome.

help me pleeeezzzz  :confused:


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: duduklu_tencere]
    #5554158 - 04/25/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

no answers? ok!
i think the problem is over humid sub.
i couldn't stand and took some risk. I opened the tub and mixed the substrat to make it more airy and spacey to run mycelium easily.
any comments?


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: duduklu_tencere]
    #5554225 - 04/25/06 07:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

man I had the same problem...

I mixed a half gallon spawned grain jar with 5lbs of poo/straw, about 2 inches deep... colonized in 5 days, I cased it yesterday

I mixed 2 half gallon spawned grain jars with 10lbs of poo/straw, about 4 inches deep... its colonizing very slow... may have stopped....

go figure?!?!

to me it seems like there is not enough air circulation for the mycelium

I am going to wait it out and see what happens...

I plan to use more straw, less poo next time


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5554258 - 04/25/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What is the bulk sub? What was your spawn to sub ratio?


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5554782 - 04/25/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

my bulk substrate for my 2 half gallon grain jars was 10lbs of 50/50 poo/straw from tennstud.
I did this with 2 different batches strain is SA, and it looks like it stopped colonizing....

I also did 1 half gallon grain jar with 5lbs of tennstud, it was ready in 5 days and I cased it yesterday

It was done on the same day

go figure?!?!?!?


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5554818 - 04/25/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The usual suspect for bulk spawn failure is the poo is too wet. I use 4 quarts (same as Tony) of WBS spawn for 10 lbs poo, and it's fully colonized in 5-7 days with no added incubation heat. I squeeze test my poo. I grab a big gob with both hands and squeeze it until it STOPS dripping. Trust me, there is plenty of remaining moisture for a killer flush. It's a lot easier to add a little water if necessary than to take some out. I shred it up finely by hand and mix in my spawn. Leave it as light and fluffy as possible. Never had a monotub fizz out on me, even with Pan Cyans. :grin::thumbup:


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: Premedman1]
    #5554834 - 04/25/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i got the substrate from tennstud??? WTF I thought Mike is suppose to be on point with his shit?!?!?

I actually used the poo couple of weeks after it arrived... I was worried that it may have been too dry...

now I dont know what to think... but things to seem to have halt, or progressing very slowly!!!!


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5554937 - 04/25/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

does anybody else encounter the same problems duduklu_tencere and I share?

dont know what to say...

I used half gallon grain jar for 5 lbs of tennstud 50/50 in a 60 qt rubbermaid latch top substrate is about 2 inches deep... colonizing beautifully...

I use twice the amount of spawn and 2x the amount of substrate... I see a couple of white spots on top the substrate but thats about it and its been like that for days...

Im goign for more straw next time!

anybody want to chime in?


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5555059 - 04/25/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

tonyperez420 said:
I actually used the poo couple of weeks after it arrived... I was worried that it may have been too dry...





It could be too dry. In Mike's defense, he does reccommend using the poo within 7 days.


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: FooMan]
    #5558481 - 04/26/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I hear ya FOOMANSHROOM,

BUT it does not explain why the same order of substrate colonized when I used 1/2 gallon of spawn to 5lbs of substrate but is not colonizing the 2 1/2 gallon jars of spawn mixed with 10lbs of substrate

Can you answer that question?

The substrate does seem to be dry for the 2 1/2 gallons of spawn mixed with 10lbs of substrate...
Is there anything I could do now that the spawn is already mixed with the substrate?


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Re: colonization stopped after few days spawning bulk sub. in mono tub setup [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5558547 - 04/26/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

GO FENERBAHCE, I'll be in Istanbul in a couple weeks b4 goin to germany for WC2006!!!


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