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"Let's Roll"
    #5558402 - 04/26/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does anybody really believe that story about Flight 93? 

The second the news reported that the flight crashed, my first thought was: The military shot it down. 

I must say, they did a really excellent job of turning what could have been a political nightmare into a moving story of selfless patriotism. 

'Let's Roll'- what a bunch of drivel.  And now they're making a movie of it.  :rolleyes:

I can just imagine the telphone conversation between Dubya and Osama that day...

Dubya: "We told you to destroy the twin towers, but the White House wasn't part of the deal!  THAT WASN'T PART OF THE DEAL, BIN LADEN!"

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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5558440 - 04/26/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Very Cynical, I like that.  You bring up a rather interesting conspiracy theory, which I feel has some bearing.  Quite conveniently George was nowhere near any of the sights that got hit. 

Anyway, every time I hear the 93 story something just seems to be missing.  Interesting to think about.  Peace  :smile:


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5558704 - 04/26/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They recovered Flight 93's black boxes and they have released the transcripts to the public (I read them in the paper about a week ago).  They also let family members listen to the actual recording of the black box.  One of the terrorists quite clearly says, "Take it down" when they realized the passengers were winning.

:shrug:


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558709 - 04/26/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

huh. I did not know that.

Still, that could have easily been faked...


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5558726 - 04/26/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

And the number of cell phones calls that got through from those altiutudes, absolutely amazing.....


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: barfightlard]
    #5558757 - 04/26/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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And the number of cell phones calls that got through from those altiutudes, absolutely amazing.....




So the nefarious government agency responsible for 9/11 managed to fake phone calls to relatives? And the callers just happened to sound exactly like their loved ones?


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558770 - 04/26/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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bellylard said:
And the number of cell phones calls that got through from those altiutudes, absolutely amazing.....




So the nefarious government agency responsible for 9/11 managed to fake phone calls to relatives? And the callers just happened to sound exactly like their loved ones?




yes?


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: Animals]
    #5558780 - 04/26/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Pray tell, how did they do that?


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558787 - 04/26/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Also, all the "terrorists" were actually androids built at Los Alamos.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558805 - 04/26/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The question is not about cell phone calls... The real question is why this happened, and the unbelievably coincidental circumstances of that day.  In reality, the 93 passengers could have stopped the terrorists from doing more harm, but for some reason terrorist threats up to that point were overlooked. 

There have been other attacks, though semi-unsuccessful, that would tell the administration that something bad eventually would happen.  Also funny how Iraq immediately got blamed, and now look at the stuff going on over there.  :frown:


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: EmptySpace]
    #5558823 - 04/26/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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In reality, the 93 passengers could have stopped the terrorists from doing more harm





??? Did you not read the black box transcripts yourself? The passengers rose up and fought the terrorists. They incapacitated or killed two of them and they were almost through the cockpit door when the other two terrorists intentionally flew the plane into the ground.

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There have been other attacks, though semi-unsuccessful, that would tell the administration that something bad eventually would happen.





Damn straight. The Bush administration was not on the ball enough when it came to Islamic nutcases. They should have been more vigilante. Was the U.S. federal government negligent? Not from what I have seen. Did some agencies and people in the U.S. federal government fuck up some? Yes.

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Also funny how Iraq immediately got blamed




Iraq didn't immediately get blamed. Al Qaeda did.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558868 - 04/26/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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EmptySpace said:
In reality, the 93 passengers could have stopped the terrorists from doing more harm





??? Did you not read the black box transcripts yourself? The passengers rose up and fought the terrorists. They incapacitated or killed two of them and they were almost through the cockpit door when the other two terrorists intentionally flew the plane into the ground.

What I meant was that they did stop them from crashing that plane into a building or something, but I was puting into question why they were put in that situation.


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Also funny how Iraq immediately got blamed




Iraq didn't immediately get blamed. Al Qaeda did.




Obviously, I should have left out immediately, and put in after the fact. Sorry about my unclear communication.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5558906 - 04/26/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

well that explains flight 93's crash

But I still don't understand how NORAD let 4 planes go off course and off IFF for 45 minutes without scrambling.

seems to me like those terrorists were given a window of opportunity by someone VERY high up in the US military...


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5559039 - 04/26/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Have you read the Congressional 9/11 report?


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: EmptySpace]
    #5559108 - 04/26/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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Also funny how Iraq immediately got blamed



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Obviously, I should have left out immediately, and put in after the fact. Sorry about my unclear communication.




Would you be so kind as to find the quote wherein Iraq was tied to the 9/11 attacks by someone in the administration and link it for us. Thank you.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5559262 - 04/26/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Have you read the Congressional 9/11 report?




what for? 

Its just gonna be more bullshit. 

But yeah, I might get around to reading it some day.  Right now I still haven't finished the Kenneth Starr report :lol:


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5559322 - 04/26/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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But yeah, I might get around to reading it some day.  Right now I still haven't finished the Kenneth Starr report :lol:



That must be hard to read.  I hear a lot of the pages are stuck together.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: Silversoul]
    #5559330 - 04/26/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"Best Stakeout Ever."

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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5559606 - 04/26/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I consider myself to be one of the so called "conspiracy theorists" even though I am sure most of it is fact, and others are brainwashed.

What I do not understand is that most of the people saying that 9/11 was set up by the government, and they had time to scramble jets before they hit the towers, and did not, etc, etc.

Yet when the flight is allegedly taken down by passengers, they are quick to say that it was shot down by the government, and that is a bad thing.

I just hope people pick their battles wisely, cause there is alot of foolishness here. I dont know what happend either way, but whatever, this is just what I am thinking at this moment.


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Re: "Let's Roll" [Re: tak]
    #5559656 - 04/26/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'll concede the Flight 93 theory as long as the black box exhonorates the government. I was not aware of that until Randall pointed it out to me. Also, even if they had shot the plane down, I wouldn't necessarily blame them for that. If anything, I'm pissed that they didn't shoot them all down. I mean, I know those passengers were innocent people, but still... sometimes people have to die for the greater good.

But I still have my doubts as to the validty of the official story of 9/11.

I remember the first week after 9/11, I thought it was terrorists, and I was pissed. But then I started thinking about it, and my curiosity led me to sites like whatreallyhappened.com. That sight is obviously not very credible... but it still got me thinking.


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