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'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer
    #5556961 - 04/25/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC, Is as good as the filter you can use...

I used a Buchner filtering funnel/flask set up for the Malt/dex. cheep to..


Start with spores but preferably from a good LC.

I wanted to use 1cc but :bongload: I used 2cc for 450ml of malt/dex LC
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I used 10g of malt/dex by weight...



Then I heated the mixture and stirred it for while...


Then it was heated before filtering....and since I have this set up might as well use it :wink:


I have 'medium' grade filter for it. Right off the bat no sediment!

Then PC at 10psi for around 25min...


Once cooled it was injected with 2cc of Pan Cyans from a donor :wink:


On a constant stirrer at the lowest setting...@ room temp, until I get it in a double bucket thing up and running, it's like a TIT, for heat...but look no sediment! :shocked:







Well that's where I am at day one....fingers crossed.. :tongue:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5556973 - 04/25/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nice, i have that same exact sturrer.

How much H20 to malt and dex do you use. GL


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Babo911]
    #5556987 - 04/25/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

10g to 4cups bottle water...my tap sucks!


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5557003 - 04/25/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

cool, i was just reading your crystal write up. I was just talking to my friend and sais we should figgure out how to do that. You just saved me alot of time. How long persay will the extract last.

what would the equivelent of say 3.5 g be?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Babo911]
    #5557027 - 04/25/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am not really sure, depends on how efficient the processes was and what was there to start with...I should know what I got and I know what I started with...

PM me tomorrow and I should know what I got... :wink:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Babo911]
    #5557032 - 04/25/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thanks :smile:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Babo911]
    #5557885 - 04/26/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Anytime man :thumbup:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5558042 - 04/26/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i need to work on a filtering method.

I have large chunks of Malt Extract in my jars. Lots of sediment in the bottom of the jars. i am hand stiring with marbles though.

i only get to stir it about 2x a day.



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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5559290 - 04/26/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That could be fine, I think it just looks not a problem per say


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5562937 - 04/27/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Day 2....






So far so good...


I will then use my other toy to transfer some to vacutainers and then put them away  :grin:






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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5563002 - 04/27/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you seem fully stocked with some nice equipment there friend :smile:

thats fuckin sweet


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5563009 - 04/27/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah maybe, but I need to know how to use them all..lol

And I hope that I can use the Socorex correctly.

Just waiting on a flow hood  :wink:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5563122 - 04/27/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Very Nice . Title's a little misleading,lol.

While you don't have sediment , it's not really "crystal" clear . Still kinda murky :wink:

Keep up the good work .

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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: HippieChick]
    #5563424 - 04/27/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Whered you get the injection gun from? Nice stuff..


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5563454 - 04/27/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_search_results.html

good price too, and thanks man  :thumbup:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5564515 - 04/27/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Now, Snaggletooth, comes the really shocking part: in two more days, that culture constantly being stirred will get so thick that you'll practically have to either use it or store it! That's what is so great about using a stir plate.

And then you end up with super cultures that have superhuman strength! With spawn bags or jars full of substrate, look at how fast they colonize with that highly reactive LC made with your stir plate (days are from 140ml injection and mixing):

2 days - cubensis injected with 140ml of LC in large spawn bag


4 days - cubensis nearly ready to use!


3 days - Pan Cans totally colonized and about 75% to full density!


Just be sure to keep those bags well separated and cool because growing that fast, the cores can exceed 90F in no time!


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5564556 - 04/27/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the inspiration :thumbup:

I do see the positive in this approach, slowly I am working my way up to bulk substrate.

Now that I have enough LC I will try a bag or two and check it out. I can say that I thought 3-4 weeks was fast...lol

Just thanks for sharing your info man, I do appreciate it and I too will try to pass the word :thumbup:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5564586 - 04/27/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a low tek way to get crystal clear malt/dex LC
is to let the jar sit/settle for a day then syphon
off he unsettled goodies with a syringe :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: TCatz]
    #5565271 - 04/27/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It didnt direct me to the right page, something about enter search request again..
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=131f6694-0ace-47c4-9152-cbc82e1fdf1d

Is that it?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5566331 - 04/28/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

IM SOOOOO JEALOUS!!!!! >_<


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5567179 - 04/28/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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It didnt direct me to the right page, something about enter search request again..
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=131f6694-0ace-47c4-9152-cbc82e1fdf1d
Is that it?




naw it did work for me try this valleyvet or search for Socorex on there site...


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5567220 - 04/28/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great Price.

Ultimate gun. I love mine. :thumbup:


Attached to a 3000 ml LC bag, you can Innoc all day :grin:



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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: agar]
    #5567540 - 04/28/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:eek: :bowdown:

I love you guys... Have i ever told you that??!?

those are some nice guns... 

BH:  what are you using for substrate? 140 ml seems like alot.  (sorry for threadjacking)


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: agar]
    #5637154 - 05/16/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Attached to a 3000 ml LC bag, you can Innoc all day :grin:






agar,

doesn't lana over at mycosupply use those bags for lc as well?

where the hell do you get em and how do you do it?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Tweexican]
    #5637178 - 05/16/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That will hopefully be a new product from him....not on the market yet,  :stoned:


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5637703 - 05/16/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

snag,

you think its possible to get ahold of those via web or ebay?

How do you think you could fill em and are they autoclavable?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Tweexican]
    #5637730 - 05/16/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No, I dont know if his type bags, for that purpose are even available.

IV bags might work, but I dont know since I have not payed with them yet.

So if you want to go that route, you might be one your own. There would be a lot to it. This idea is defiantly outside of the box thinking.

I would suggest to wait for Agar to come back, since he has already R&D them.


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5637772 - 05/16/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Got to love those toys.>>> Happy play time.  :tongue2:

Just got my stir plate. :cool:
When I go to the big city this week I'll be getting light dry malt and dry dextrose. Living in a small town has its draw backs. :mad:



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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: KaptKid]
    #5639339 - 05/16/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow thank you so much for that link. i have been looking for places to find those socorex guns, because you need a vet license to order from their website :thumbdown:

any other links to sites that sell the pistol grip syringes?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: magic8ball]
    #5639355 - 05/16/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Umm not that I know of, when I search for them that was the cheapest place I could find, outside of ebay.


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5640303 - 05/16/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone think a camelbak bag would survive PC'ing to put the LC in and use the injection gun?


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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5640858 - 05/17/06 04:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What is the name of that "toy," how much would a decent one cost and can I buy vacutainers w/out any kind of license?

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Re: 'Crystal' Clear Dex/Malt LC...on Constant Stirrer [Re: splifner180]
    #5641818 - 05/17/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

An 'Automatic self-filling syringe'

Name brand Socorex - 0.5 to 5.0 ml w/feed tube

Around 80 is the cheapest I have seen it.

The vacutainers are cheap, like 10ish for 100, and you no not need any license and commonly called red tops.


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