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Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE]
    #5556406 - 04/25/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school
April 25, 2006 - delawareonline.com

WILMINGTON -- A former chemistry student at Widener University pleaded guilty in federal court today to charges that he attempted to produce the drug LSD in an improvised lab at a state park.

Paul G. Little, 23, told District Judge Joseph J. Farnan Jr. that he did it to pay for college.

?I?m really sorry,? he said. ?I was hoping to manufacture LSD and make extra money to go to school without working.?

His attorney, assistant federal public defender Christopher Koyste said it was a ?mad scientist? effort by his client, with little chance of success. ?He never had the capacity to do it,? Koyste said.

Little, who appeared in court in an orange prison jumpsuit, said he was having difficulty going to school and holding down a job at the same time, and this appeared to be the answer to his financial problems.

One of Little?s part-time jobs was at The Nature Center in White Clay Creek State Park, where he ?did little chemistry experiments for the kids.?

During that time he was allowed to live at a farmhouse in the park, where other park employees were housed. He set up his LSD lab in a barn adjacent to the house in June 2005.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Adam Safwat said Little had a recipe for the illegal hallucinogenic drug that he found either online or in a textbook, and he had acquired many of the chemicals needed to create the drug. Little said the chemicals that he could not purchase, he attempted to create himself.

Little said at the time of his arrest, he had transferred from Widener to Delaware Technical & Community College, where he said he was a ?struggling? part-time student.

?I couldn?t make it to class all the time because of work and transportation issues,? he said.

Little, who is originally from upstate New York and had no previous criminal record, now faces up to 20 years in jail and a $1 million fine on the charge of manufacturing LSD when Farnan sentences him in July


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: veggie]
    #5556617 - 04/25/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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?I?m really sorry,? he said. ?I was hoping to manufacture LSD and make extra money to go to school without working.?




wtf why do people incriminate themselves. Until the drug is made, there is no crime, no matter what chemicals you have.

Hows having all the chemicals to make LSD illegal? ITS NOT!
If so, the government should be arrested.

dumb pigs.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5556646 - 04/25/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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ShroomieOfDoomie said:
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?I?m really sorry,? he said. ?I was hoping to manufacture LSD and make extra money to go to school without working.?




wtf why do people incriminate themselves. Until the drug is made, there is no crime, no matter what chemicals you have.

Hows having all the chemicals to make LSD illegal? ITS NOT!
If so, the government should be arrested.

dumb pigs.




Very True! Fuck.. Fuck.. Fuck.. the police!


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5556647 - 04/25/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Having diethlyamine and/or ET is VERY illegal without proper licenses, of course, it's all horse shit that he has to be arrested and face 20 some odd years in prison, he just wanted to pay for school! Really sucks, laws suck. 20 years in prison, not just jail, but pound me in the ass prison for trying to make something that makes people happy, fucking ridiculous.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: gdman]
    #5557996 - 04/26/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i dont really 100% buy that whole "i was only doing it to pay for school".. maybe that was extra motivation, but its hard to believe that was his only motive


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: Banez]
    #5561847 - 04/27/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

^ do I smell bacon?


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5562043 - 04/27/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah im a fucking pig.. lol.. anyone who has ever been to court or had a lawyer knows that you say things to get urself in less trouble ot try to help ur case

im not saying the money wasnt to help pay for college.. but surely u agree there were other motives.. whether it be for extra pocket money or for his own personal lsd use


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: veggie]
    #5562059 - 04/27/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Leaving around instructions to make it probably didn't help his case. Study until you've got the process memorized or keep follow an online tek and delete any link between you and it.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: Cowgold]
    #5562774 - 04/27/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Are grow lights together with pot grow guides plus seeds enough for a conspiracy to manufacture charge? What about if there are no seeds present?


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: veggie]
    #5563230 - 04/27/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, another local story..

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One of Little?s part-time jobs was at The Nature Center in White Clay Creek State Park, where he ?did little chemistry experiments for the kids.?




I know the park well.. I have gone hiking there several times.

I don't usually go in the "nature center" though. Strange to think some guy is in there doing little experiments for kids, LOL.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5563563 - 04/27/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Until the drug is made, there is no crime

Conspiracy to manufacture is a crime. It's been the case that someone with Strike's book, a few legal chemicals, and some lab glassware has been convicted of conspiracy. Strike himself never got caught making any actual drugs but he's in prison anyway.

The bottom line is whether or not the DA can convince a jury that you were planning to manufacture. In the current drug-hysteria environment, that's not hard to do.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: veggie]
    #5564957 - 04/27/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

And..... he's fucked. Oh well, tough break, be more secretive next time.


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Ineptitude rescues would-be LSD maker [Re: veggie]
    #5834448 - 07/08/06 07:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060708/NEWS/607080332

Ineptitude rescues would-be LSD maker

By SEAN O'SULLIVAN
The News Journal
07/08/2006

WILMINGTON -- A former chemistry student's lack of skill in chemistry saved him from a harsh prison sentence Friday, according to a federal judge.

Paul G. Little had attempted to make LSD in a makeshift lab set up in a state park as a way to pay for college. But he failed in his effort to make the illegal hallucinogen and then was caught by police.

"It is only by the luck of your ineptitude that you are not going to jail for a long time," said District Judge Joseph J. Farnan Jr.

Little, 23, a former student at Widener University, was sentenced to time served -- 10 months -- and three years of probation. He pleaded guilty in April and could have faced up to 20 years in prison and a $1 million fine.

Little, who was released to his family shortly after Friday's proceedings, apologized for his actions and said he was glad he did not succeed.

He said that while he was in prison, he saw the ill effects of drug addiction.

Little, who had no criminal record, told Farnan that his attendance and grades suffered when he tried to work and go to school at the same time. So while working at the Nature Center in White Clay Creek State Park near Newark, he hit on the idea of making money by making and selling LSD -- lysergic acid diethylamide.

He was never successful -- despite many attempts -- and was caught in September when a park employee discovered the makeshift lab in a park barn.

Sentencing guidelines called for a sentence of probation to six months in prison, but Farnan could have also imposed a fine or ordered restitution for the lab cleanup.

Farnan did not, however, tell Little he was giving him a break and that he should use this second chance to get his life back on track and work on improving his maturity and judgment.


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Re: Ineptitude rescues would-be LSD maker [Re: motaman]
    #5834482 - 07/08/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

lucky man


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Re: Ineptitude rescues would-be LSD maker [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #5835169 - 07/08/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

he should go to jail for a long time just because hes a fucking idiot. who sets that shit up in a federal funded barn that you dont even own!!! holy shit that takes the cake.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5835641 - 07/08/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Bullshit, I dont believe the 'I only did it to pay for school' weapy sentiment either. You dont attempt to manufacture LSD to pay the bills, there are other more profitable chemicals you can make. It is however a good defense and I hope it works for him.

EDIT: And yes, he fucked up by giving the DA an admission. Instead of forcing the DA to PROVE he was making LSD he just admitted it. What a fucking dumbass. They might as well (and they will) move straight to sentencing. What a major fucking twit.


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    #5836603 - 07/08/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: dr_gonz]
    #5836662 - 07/08/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

LSD sythesis was the first thing taught in my highschool chem 101 class, teacher thaught it would get us interested :smile:


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5837430 - 07/08/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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LSD sythesis was the first thing taught in my highschool chem 101 class, teacher thaught it would get us interested :smile:




Uh dude, I don't see how that could possibly be true for many reasons...

That would have got me interested though ^^.  I remember my 8th grade history teach told us how to make opium,as he wrote his college thesis on it....  Sure got me intereted in it.  I remember him making fun of the kid everyone knew was a stoner, he said something like "oh look, ___ is finally paying attention"


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: Hugh]
    #5838807 - 07/09/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

He didn't actually make it but he went through the process on the first day and used it as an example to explain things.


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Re: Chem major tries to make illegal drug to pay for school [DE] [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5845959 - 07/11/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I could see that...a good teacher cares more about u learning the material and becoming genuinely interested then following the rules exactly

my 9th grade science teacher was like that...I remember once he used an orgy as an example to expain something :laugh:


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