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    #5555592 - 04/25/06 05:25 PM (18 years, 28 days ago)



I found these growing from the gravely bed of an abandoned road last fall, and I found them in the same spot two days ago. They are obviously coprinus but I don't know which species. They are very meaty mushrooms and look like they would be good to eat.

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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: shroomydan]
    #5556444 - 04/25/06 09:08 PM (18 years, 28 days ago)

I have never seen a mushroom like these accept in this one location. And I get around a good bit.

The caps are very well camouflaged. Is it possible that mushrooms move into a particular habitat because camouflage gives them an evolutionary advantage?

This seems especially likely with a species that is 'designed' to release spores slowly over several days as it dissolves.

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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: shroomydan]
    #5556478 - 04/25/06 09:16 PM (18 years, 28 days ago)

Seems like the camouflage would be an important feature for some mushrooms. The most fit to survive seem to prevail. I'm sure it helps them anyways.
As far as what species that is - I have no idea. I haven't even got my books out yet this year. :shocked:
They are still buried under piles of junk :lol:.. I should get them out and look at some of the keys. There has to be at least 10 books.
Just been going on what I remember from the books all year.


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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: shroomydan]
    #5557248 - 04/26/06 12:57 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

is it actually hard? The only 'hard' mushroom ive found - as in really hard like rocks was a Trichoderma I found in the middle of summer.


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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5557847 - 04/26/06 08:53 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

They are not hard, but they blend in really well with the rocks they are growing around. It seems to me the camouflage may be intentional.

If this is the case, it would be an opposite evolutionary strategy than that employed by brightly colored mushrooms which gain advantage by being eaten.

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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: shroomydan]
    #5558853 - 04/26/06 02:18 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

Or possibly a strategy particular to this mushroom/?
Ohio is pretty damn windy at times, maybe it relies on this for propagation? Or could be that were all wrong, and this could be a mushroom that could be very specific in its environmental needs or maybe even require a symbiotic relationship?
None the less very interesting topic and find :thumbup:.
Its definitely worth identifying, but like you said, other than probably being coprinus I haven't a clue.
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Re: Rock Mushrooms [Re: shroomydan]
    #5563101 - 04/27/06 02:43 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

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shroomydan said:
They are not hard, but they blend in really well with the rocks they are growing around. It seems to me the camouflage may be intentional.

If this is the case, it would be an opposite evolutionary strategy than that employed by brightly colored mushrooms which gain advantage by being eaten.




The mushroom doesn't strategize to look a particular way. What usually happens is there are several phenotypes for a species, (and mutants occur too potentially leading to new species) and the ones that do the best job of avoiding predation produce offspring of which an overwhelming majority will look like the parent. The ones that don't have the phenotype to survive will get picked off each subsequent generation. This then leads to less alleles in the gene pool, so the chances of offspring looking different drops dramatically.

"In many animals, gene flow results when individuals from one population migrate to another population. The Lake Erie water snake provides an excellent example. Although skilled swimmers, these snakes spend much of their day basking in the sun on overhanging vegetation or rocks. In Lake Erie, water snakes form distinct populations?snakes that live on the rock islands in the lake, and others that live in the vegetation close to the shore. Shore populations have gray bodies with black bands, a coloration that helps them evade hungry seagulls by blending with the shoreline vegetation. Island snakes are primarily light gray with no banding, coloring that helps them to blend in to their rocky surroundings. An easy target for seagulls, banded island snakes rarely survive to reproductive age. Yet every year, biologists count banded newborns among the island litters. What at first appeared to be a mystery was later revealed to be gene flow at work. Although the populations do not regularly interbreed, once in a while shore snakes, carried by currents or winds, migrate to the islands. Once there, they mate with island snakes, reintroducing the gene for banding into the island population as they do."


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