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Hpoo... 40+ pounds
    #5555195 - 04/25/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I went and got about .... 30-50 pounds of hpoo today. It had some hay and wood shavings mixed in. I dont know what type of wood shavings im hoping its not a bad type so im going to do a small test on a little kit befor large outdoor. However, how should this be prepared? It will be for outdoors so i dont need to pasturize it. I had heard you soak it in water then dry it? what is that process?


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5555203 - 04/25/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if it needs to be leached and you can test that by heating it up on the stove and seeing if it has a strong smell. Water it down and let dry. again and again stirring the pile then you can hydrate and inoculate or you can pastuerize and inoculate. This info is all over this board in much greater detail. use the search function


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5555213 - 04/25/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You will have better luck pasteurizing it and spawning it indoors, then take it outside to prepare a bed(Unpasteurized substrate will contaminate). If it is fresh poo it will need to be dried out or leached(soaked and drained), then pasteurized, then spawned, then cased. then fruited.


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
    #5555239 - 04/25/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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You will have better luck pasteurizing it and spawning it indoors, then take it outside to prepare a bed(Unpasteurized substrate will contaminate). If it is fresh poo it will need to be dried out or leached(soaked and drained), then pasteurized, then spawned, then cased. then fruited.




Actually, you have a better chance of getting contams indoors and zero chance outdoors. This is why people toss their contaminated casings and cakes in outdoor beds. Stagnant, wet places are where contams breed, not the great outdoors!

Edit: You also do not need to pastuerize the poo like the original poster stated for an outdoor grow. I've actually done indoor grows without pastuerizing my poo at all.


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: FooMan]
    #5555277 - 04/25/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

zero chance huh?? :grin:
ever been down south?? Its one big fucking stagnant wet place.
The main reason people throw their cakes outside, from what ive seen, is to prevent further contamination of the growing environment, and get a chance a getting something from a potential waste of time.
Im not saying it doesnt work, mushrooms do grow outside, against ALL ODDS.


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
    #5555303 - 04/25/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They grow very well outside, and you don't need to do squat to the horse manure. Just dig a hole and toss the manure, straw, wood, and whatever else came with it along with some spent cakes, or even some fresh spawn. Water it all down with the hose and walk away. If it's really hot, you can lay a sheet of cardboard over the fresh spawn to protect the bed from the sun until it colonizes.
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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5555408 - 04/25/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, i got it for an outdoor grow. Last year i used cow manure and got quiet a bit so now im going to do a BIG one. I colonized 30 pounds of cow manure to start off the horse manure im going to spread over it (with hay). I just want to know if i need to do anything to use it outdoors (in the ground).


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5555414 - 04/25/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

im burying a soaking hose underneath the pile (its like 5 by 4 feet, i think i will go back and get some more. But im going to do like 50% horse manure, 30% cow manure (to fill in some extra space), 15% hay and 5% virmiculite (roughly these amounts).


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5555465 - 04/25/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So if im just going to burry it in the ground, maybe soak the hpoo and poor off the top layer of water...? or?


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
    #5562491 - 04/27/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Im not saying it doesnt work, mushrooms do grow outside, against ALL ODDS.




ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!? Mushrooms outside in a good patch make indoor kits look like toy's. MUSHROOMS GREW OUTSIDE FIRST! lol. Mushrooms werent created in a labratory you know. If you dont beleive me click link below.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...t=1#Post4563577


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5562599 - 04/27/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

DO you NOT know that there is a war going on outside???? 
Go shoot some spores onto some shit, tell me what happens.
The chance that Mushroom spores you want to grow are going to germinate as compared to some other micro spore are the same.

And if you think you can grow outside in nature with the same results as in a lab your not very logical or educated.

#1Growing in a lab, provides precise unwavering conditions that the mushrooms thrive in. Growing outside: Sun goes up sun goes down, it rains and it doesn't rain for months on end sometimes, point being growing outside in an uncontrolled environment is not going to produce the same results as Laboratory conditions predetermined by you. < This is why we grow in labs!

#2 Mushrooms "rot" things.... so do millions of micro-organisms, it is there nature to compete for food, in an uncontrolled environment a "competitor" mold or fungi have just the same chance to eat a substrate as the Mushrooms that you would want to grow. < This is why we grow in labs!
Of course They grow outside, duh, Mushroom were not engineered by man :smile: !  We grow inside on sterile substrates to give them the best chance.

A perfect example is large scale Commercial Edibles, if it were more productive to grow outside, people would do it!!! They don't, they spend thousands of dollars to engineer specific growing environments for mushrooms, to attain maximum yield.


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: satori85]
    #5562620 - 04/27/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...t=1#Post4563577



Yeah Ive always thought that garden was neat! :smile:
Ever notice : "The mix was layered on top of a soaker hose (thanks Joshua) along with 6 quarts of colonized WBS "
             
^^^^^^grown in sterile conditions to give the bed the best chance :smile:

The Thread you listed actually proves what i was trying to say to you when you originally posted  If you start you spawn inside, then spawn it into a bed a outside, you will have better luck.


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Re: Hpoo... 40+ pounds [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
    #5563466 - 04/27/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"The Thread you listed actually proves what i was trying to say to you when you originally posted If you start you spawn inside, then spawn it into a bed a outside, you will have better luck. "

Actually you originally said:
"You will have better luck pasteurizing it and spawning it indoors, then take it outside to prepare a bed(Unpasteurized substrate will contaminate)."

In that link it wasnt pasteurized or spawned indoors. Spawn is started indoors then taken out to the bed and dumped in a hole with the substrate. If your outdoors actually has STAGNANT and SLALE air then mushrooms wont grow there well anyway. Unpasteurized horse poo will be just fine outdoors.

No one talked of squiting spores on poo outside..no one said he wasnt going to start some with spawn indoors, but you dont want to spawn indoors or pasteurize the poo for outdoors.


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