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Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts?
#5554264 - 04/25/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's an annual event round these parts.
Minds made up. Throwing a kegger and BBQ.
maybe a stripper or two or maybe I'll just get that Siamese one for half the price
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5554336 - 04/25/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuck yeah.. im taking the day off work.. losing 95$ to sit on my ass, eat, and watch the draft
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5554372 - 04/25/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Author: Mike Wobschall
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Virginia) is clearly the class of this position. The 6-5, 312- pounder is rangy and fast. The intriguing element to Ferguson is his lankiness...relatively speaking at least. Throughout his playing career, Ferguson has faced pressure to add weight. Typically, a 6-5 offensive lineman will weigh upwards of 330 pounds - but Ferguson weighs in at just over 312, and it's worked out well for him. The advantage to Ferguson towing less weight is being able to move and block on the run. "It's a game of size and power, for sure," Virginia Head Coach Al Groh said. "But when you ask a rookie what the biggest difference on the NFL level is, they all say they didn't realize how fast the game is. It's a game of speed. That's why you need lineman capable of pulling on the backside."
Beyond Ferguson, I think there are three others who should go in the first round.
Winston Justice (Southern Cal) is a 6-6, 319 pound offensive tackle who has helped protect the draft's best quarterback, Matt Leinart, throughout his career. He has seen his stock rise recently thanks to an impressive pro day workout and an ability to switch to the right side from the left tackle position.
Nick Mangold (Ohio St.) - The 6-4, 300-pound Mangold has been a staple in the Buckeyes' offense over his career, logging over 300 minutes in each of the last three seasons. He is the type of offensive blocker with the ability to get out in the flats to help with screens, and pull around end to lead off tackle runs.
Marcus McNeill (Auburn) - Standing at 6-8 and weighing in at 336 pounds, this brick wall is my sleeper -- for the entire draft class. Safety is guaranteed behind McNeill, as he gave up a grand total of zero sacks over a span of 43 games. Need a body guard? Call Mr. McNeill. McNeill anchored an offensive line that paved the way for the dynamic and ultra-productive duo of Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown. Whoever selects McNeill will have a dominant force at tackle for years to come. He should be the second lineman taken, but he'll be selected behind both Justice and Mangold. With respect to those two, teams will be kicking themselves in the future knowing they passed on McNeill in 2006.
Eric Winston (Miami) and David Joseph (Oklahoma) should both go either late in the first round or early in the second round. Winston's drawback is due to the knee ligaments he tore in 2004. His performance last season and at the combine have shown that he's bounced back nicely. But thoughts of a reoccurring injury will be in the minds of personnel directors. Joseph is the draft's best guard because of his athleticism and versatility. The 6-3, 311-pounder is a converted defensive lineman - and he played tackle in 2004.
Two others to watch for in the second round are: 6-4, 355-pound Max Jean-Giles (Georgia) and 6-4, 344-pound Taitusi Lutui (Southern Cal). Former Gopher center Greg Eslinger should go in the third round.
Defensive line
Over the last 39 drafts, 11 defensive linemen have been selected number one overall. Only quarterbacks, with 15, have had more number one selections. The last defensive lineman to be selected first overall was Courtney Brown (Penn. St.), who was taken by the Cleveland Browns in the 2000 NFL Draft. Over the past 10 drafts, 19 defensive linemen have been selected in the top 10. As you can see, these guys fare well on draft day. And perhaps they should - a good defensive line makes life easier for the rest of the defenders on the field.
This year's draft contains defensive linemen who have the potential to be anchors on their respective team's defense. And, like the previous 39 drafts, there is even a chance that one of these guys will go first overall. His name is...
Mario Williams (NC State) - Williams' size, strength and speed has experts calling for comparisons to Jevon Kearse and Julius Peppers. Williams is a tremendous physical specimen - he stands 6-7 and weighs 297 pounds. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.70 seconds and registered an astounding 40.5 inch vertical leap. Williams will prove deadly in the NFL as he rushes the edges past offensive tackles and pursues quarterbacks with a vengeance. He has shown an excellent ability to pursue laterally, and his lengthy wingspan allows him extra leverage when attempting rip, club and swim moves.
Williams is talented enough to be drafted first overall in most drafts, and that may well be the case this year. The Texans are reportedly in contract negotiations with both Williams and Southern Cal star running back Reggie Bush. Bush is of course the consensus pick to go first overall, but Williams would not be a reach to take instead. If Houston does take Bush, I expect the Saints to grab offensive tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson and then the Titans to go with a quarterback. At that point the Jets would be next with the fourth overall choice, and Williams would likely be the pick there. Even at the fourth pick, this is a steal for the Jets, who will obtain a legitimate number one overall-type talent with the fourth pick.
There are three other defensive lineman who are locks to go in the first round.
Haloti Ngata (Oregon) may even go right after Williams as the fifth overall pick by the Green Bay Packers. Although just a junior in college, Ngata brings NFL size to the playing field. At a monstrous 6-4, 338 pounds, he is the proverbial hole stuffer that many teams in the NFL desire. His natural athleticism, size and strength could make him a very good starting defensive tackle in the NFL. The question will be whether he can stay in playing shape throughout his career. The knock on Ngata is that he can lose focus mentally, which causes him to lose proper technique, which decreases his productivity and effectiveness.
Who knows where we'd be rating Brodrick Bunkley (FSU) had injuries and academic ineligibility not hampered some of his playing time with the Seminoles. Early in his career, Bunkley endured knee and ankle injuries, which caused him to miss playing time. When Bunkley was in the Seminoles' lineup, however, he was a force to be reckoned with. He had 26 tackles for losses in his senior season, second best in Division I-A. Bunkley ranks fifth all-time at FSU with 37 stops for losses. Additionally, because he commanded so many double teams, his linemates enjoyed single coverage most of the time. At 6-3, 306 pounds, he may be a tad on the light side for a typical two-gap defensive lineman, but he makes up for it with his tenacity and quick first step.
Bunkley's teammate at FSU, Kamerion Wimbley, should also be a first-round selection on Saturday. Wimbley is an interesting prospect because scouts love his athletic ability and upside, but he does have his fair share of critics. At 6-4, 248 pounds, he may be the biggest body in your household, but he's undersized for a typical NFL defensive end. With so many teams employing the 3-4 defense in today's NFL, many experts see Wimbley as the perfect candidate to use as a rushing linebacker. He has great foot quickness and playing speed, but often times he is slow to react and is overpowered by run-blocking. Rushing Wimbley from a linebacker position in the 3-4 scheme will give him a perfect opportunity to make plays in the open field and run down quarterbacks. I can see Wimbley going as early as eighth overall to Buffalo, but he would also be a great fit with Cleveland at 12th overall.
Don't sleep on Mathias Kiwanuka (Boston College) and Tamba Hali (Penn. St.) in the first round, either. Kiwanuka, at 6-6 and 266 pounds, possess great size and strength. He was regarded as a premier pass rusher in the collegiate ranks, garnering 34 career sacks for the Eagles. Hali, a former defensive tackle for the Nittany Lions who shifted to end his junior season, was the Big Ten's top defensive lineman in 2006. He also earned consensus All-America first team honors, tallying 11 sacks.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
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I'll be watching it for sure. I wanna see my Packers pick AJ Hawk.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5555536 - 04/25/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I'll be watching it for sure. I wanna see my Packers pick AJ Hawk.
whats that going to do for your packers? um nothing. u sure talked alot of shit on eli and the giants with your qb being aaron rodgers! packers have no playmakers on any side of the ball! fucking hater. packers record this year 4-12..
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5555569 - 04/25/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll be watching the draft, and if the Raiders get lucky and Vince Young falls to #7, I'll be a happy man.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5555589 - 04/25/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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When's the last time the Giants won a Superbowl?
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5555713 - 04/25/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah the pack is old news.. they have a bunch of thugs now.. i hate their WR corps.. between javon walker and donald driver.. a bunch of thugs.. and yeah it doesnt matter who they get. they will be trash
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5555944 - 04/25/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah right. Walker + Driver (with Ferguson in the 3rd spot) is one hell of a receiving duo. Where do you get that they're thugs? They've been nothing but stand-up guys since they've been in GB.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5556217 - 04/25/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: When's the last time the Giants won a Superbowl?
hm, what does that have to do with this year? always living in the past red? you wr duo is shit. ur team is shit. ur organization and fans are shit. edit. Quote:
Yeah right. Walker + Driver (with Ferguson in the 3rd spot) is one hell of a receiving duo
im seriously laughing at you. your wr core is below mediocrity. the jolly green giants cock short of good. your team is terrible there going 4-12 at best.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5556237 - 04/25/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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dude donald driver was just running his mouth a week ago telling the packers to get rid of javon walker.. or maybe it was the other way around.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5556337 - 04/25/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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easy with the flames mang
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5556371 - 04/25/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ignore budsky, he's annoying and doesn't know shit
but fuck yeah i'm watching the draft
at my friend carl's playing oblivion and watching the draft for two days
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5556380 - 04/25/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Booyah!
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5556509 - 04/25/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I le magnifique said: ignore budsky, he's annoying and doesn't know shit
but fuck yeah i'm watching the draft
at my friend carl's playing oblivion and watching the draft for two days
yea i dont know what im talking about...unlike you i played a year of big time D1 college football and i blew my knee out also my uncle played in the nfl and won a super bowl. so i just grew up around football 24/7 so im not really knowledgeable at all. disregard my posts.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5556627 - 04/25/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll just disregard every one of your posts and their horrendous spelling and grammar. I hope you got an athletic scholarship because I'm sure you didn't get one for academica.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5556684 - 04/25/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I'll just disregard every one of your posts and their horrendous spelling and grammar. I hope you got an athletic scholarship because I'm sure you didn't get one for academica.
ur funny. u get owned in a debate and you bring up grammar.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5556691 - 04/25/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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So anything else about the football draft?
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5556711 - 04/25/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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There was no debate. You're trying to tell me the Giants are any good, and until they prove they are, you don't have shit.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5556713 - 04/25/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stein said: So anything else about the football draft?
I'll be watching it. That's all I know.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5556752 - 04/25/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: There was no debate. You're trying to tell me the Giants are any good, and until they prove they are, you don't have shit.
there was no debate? what the fuck have the packers done? winning a division doesnt mean that the giants are good? you honestly dont know what the fuck your talkin about ur just talking out of your ass. all i know is the giants have one of the best teams in the nfl. wtf do the packers have? stop talking shit, your team is garbage! aj hawk is probably praying right now that the packers pass him by.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5556763 - 04/25/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hope my queens get their shit together this year. They'll be getting a new stadium and those fuckass's better make it worth my while.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5557978 - 04/26/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i guess Farve is back
49ers are taking either Michael Huff or AJ Hawk
and hopefully Dallas takes a young QB.. i hope they get Cutler, but i doubt they get him
thats what im adding
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5557999 - 04/26/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuckin Favre, never seen a cry baby lead a team before. He's a great QB but cripes hold back the waterworks when you get your taint sack slapped.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5558181 - 04/26/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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OHSBrave06 said: i guess Farve is back
49ers are taking either Michael Huff or AJ Hawk
and hopefully Dallas takes a young QB.. i hope they get Cutler, but i doubt they get him
thats what im adding
i think the 9ers will take huff. hes a better player than hawk. the 9ers need an olb though..
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Hamstercut]
#5559365 - 04/26/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Stein]
#5559386 - 04/26/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stein said: Fuckin Favre, never seen a cry baby lead a team before. He's a great QB but cripes hold back the waterworks when you get your taint sack slapped.
I don't think I will ever think much of either one of them after that horrendous laydown he gave for Strahan's "record" setting sack. Fuck them both.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: zappaisgod]
#5559392 - 04/26/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Favre's my favorite player of all-time, but that was some weak shit.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Redstorm]
#5559544 - 04/26/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuck anyone who says anything bad about brett farve.. dude is fucking amazing.. true he sucked last year but o well.. dude is like #2 all-time in every QB related stat.. played on the frozen tundra.. and never got hurt.. he should be a role model for all QB's and athletes.. and i dont even like the packers.. at all
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5559552 - 04/26/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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he did get hurt, like once long ago
that's why my dad hates him b/c he abused prescription drugs and blamed his doc (my dad is a physician)
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5559564 - 04/26/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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is that a negative or a positive? yeah, i think the guy got hurt like once in like.. however many years he played.. unlike the modern day QB who misses atleast 1 game per season
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5559630 - 04/26/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's a negative
if one's going to do pharms, get a dealer or one of those e-mail things
at least don't blame your doctor, fucking maggot
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5562025 - 04/27/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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dude ur soo silly.. like.. seriously.. ur critizing the entire career and character of a guy based on 1 incident that he had over the length of his career.. thats completely rediculous.. i think u could find 1 negative with just about every pro player.. whether it be an arrest, fines from league, or attitude problems
Farve is a stand out fellow
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#5564085 - 04/27/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's not ridiculous, he blamed a legitimate professional for his inequities
look at warrick dunn, never had a spot of dirt on his entire career
i think he's a great player, but if he had just sacked up and admitted it was his fault and he was an addict, i wouldn't give a shit
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#5564376 - 04/27/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah i like warrick dunn.. it was more a point.. it just seems like now-a-days every NFL player somehow gets himself in trouble
we can just agree to disagree on this.. Farve to me is one of the classiest, best players to ever play QB in the NFL.. hes a great man. donating tons of money to Katrina victims and volunteering down in Louisanna.. the guy is simply amazing
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Banez]
#25951843 - 04/23/19 09:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is the protocol around here? Bump the thread or start a new one?
I don't think I'll watch, but I always love to follow it. Vikings fan here.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: goffa]
#25952285 - 04/24/19 06:37 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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12 years, 11 months. Start a new thread. I'm not watching the draft because the Bears don't pick until late in the 3rd round.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said: 12 years, 11 months. Start a new thread. I'm not watching the draft because the Bears don't pick until late in the 3rd round.
Thanks, I'll do that next time.
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Re: Is anyone gonna watch the NFL drafts? [Re: goffa]
#25953007 - 04/24/19 02:49 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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They are too drawn out and my teams picks usually disappoint me.
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