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OfflineHitman203
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Art Sucks!!!!!
    #5551669 - 04/24/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously it does. I only like art that looks like what its supposed to be. I went to this museum of art and its all garbage. They had some of the stupidest shit i ever saw. For example wtf is this shit




And at the art musuem they just try to prove how emo they are. By making crappy depressing shit. So yea in my opinion art is pure shit.

who agrees?


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5551698 - 04/24/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you , my friend, are a silly man.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5551707 - 04/24/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I guess that's what they call "abstract". I recently was in NYC and went to the Gugghenheim (sp) Museum, and they had a collection of early impressionist work by Cezanne, Picasso, Pizarro, etc., and the works in the exhibit got more modern and thus more abstract the further you went. Needless to say, eventually you come across something like above. Now, I'm pretty open-minded, and can appreciate abstract to some extent. I understand where it came from and a lot of 20th Century art I find to be very inspiring. I believe with the above painting, the act of creation was more important than the finished result that you see. Remember Julienne Moore in Lebowski, flying around and shit doing her art? I think that's cool; I just don't dig the result-on-canvas. And the fact that people pay money for that is kind of cynical and dumb, but you know what? It amuses me to see people look at something like that in a gallery as though it's really meaningful. To see us humans wrapped up in bullshit, in its purest form, one must visit an art gallery.

So it's inspiring in spite of itself. See? You can't say the above shit teaches you nothing about human nature, can you?


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5551714 - 04/24/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



Edited by PinballWizard (04/24/06 05:05 PM)


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: quillini]
    #5551782 - 04/24/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If you trip hard enough, you will understand abstract art. :thumbup:


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5551807 - 04/24/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I love art.  art is about creation, representation, catharsis and/or communication in my opinion.  you can use just one or some or all of those when viewing the worth or viability of art.  even then its all subjective.  So its completely understandable to dislike abstract art based on any of what I just said.

"the creation is to simple, methods are ridiculous"
"I dont get it!? how is this supposed to make me feel!?"  (hint: maybe its supposed to make you feel confused? :wink: )

You have to remember that art isnt always about YOU the viewer.  so you think it sucks?  good for you youre a critic!  congratulations.

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Ive made stuff that Im like "damn this sucks" and other people are like "youre crazy i like it" and not in a pitiful way.

Ive felt the same with other peoples art.

That being said, I dont go to art museums usually.  actually I never do.  Ive been to two, in the same day.

I only went to the one because Dalis works were there, then I went to the other cause my friends wanted to go.

I was amazed at what I saw, thats for sure.  Rembrandt blew me away.  But, would i see it again over and over?

meh.

Id go see the chapel of the mirrors, id go see naoto hatori... and thats really about it at this point in my life.  id go see dali again probably.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Todcasil]
    #5551888 - 04/24/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

^which one? i went to see dalis shit at a musuem maybe its the same one.

But really no art in general doesnt do it for me. I mean when i buy a house i probaly will buy a couple paintings of the beach, sailboats, maybe one of a forest and animals or something but thats it.

I mean if it looks like its supposed to then i respect that but just doing random shit isnt good. There was this doll that some guy mutilated and they put it in a musuem? wtf? And the whole art musuem shit is weak. I mean they had some ancient artifacts like pottery which was cool and a couple nice paintings but the new stuff upstairs was depressing and incredibly crappy


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5551900 - 04/24/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it was in 2001 in washington art museum...

gotta go cant post lonG!!
AGHH!!


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552114 - 04/24/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

maybe you could get a painting of dogs playing poker.

so i take it your not really one for 'the life of the mind' and all that


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552119 - 04/24/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"I mean if it looks like its supposed to then i respect that but just doing random shit isnt good."

See that's where you're missing the point, it's not really random. I don't really understand a lot of modern visual art either but I'm sure if you understand it then you can appreciate it. Just because it's not so accesible doesn't mean it's crappy, sometimes quite the opposite...certainly this applies to music.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: mr_kite]
    #5552125 - 04/24/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Of course stuff like an unmade bed or a shit in a box or a big empty room with a light that flashes on and off...yeah I think thats a shower of shite.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552157 - 04/24/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Hitman203 said:
For example wtf is this shit








That's a bunch of paint slapped randomly onto something.


This is art



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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552167 - 04/24/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Modernity ruined Western civilization.

Might've missed the memo. It's ok. Lots of people did.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Shroomism]
    #5552226 - 04/24/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
Quote:

Hitman203 said:
For example wtf is this shit








That's a bunch of paint slapped randomly onto something.


This is art






Yea thats not that bad. its not good but at least i know what it is and they used bright colors.

And maybe its all over my head idk. but i know i dont like most art


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552227 - 04/24/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i like it...


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Shroomism]
    #5552256 - 04/24/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Quote:

Hitman203 said:
For example wtf is this shit








That's a bunch of paint slapped randomly onto something.


This is art






Neither image is any more or less "art" than the other one.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Shroomism]
    #5552270 - 04/24/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

heh.. this is just an on going thing. What is "art"?? who are we to say whats art..and whats not. Im pretty shocked to hear some of you saying thats not art. Come on guys.. art isn't just some pretty nature scene.. or some trippy drawing.. its something that moves us. I'm sure 100 years ago.. people looked at some painting and called them pieces of shit.. only to be in a museum 100 years later and labeled as masterpieces.

Just because you dont enjoy the process or type of work.. that in no way means it isn't art. And BTW.. no, im not a fan of modern art. Tho I do find some of it interesting.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Toddo]
    #5552277 - 04/24/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I find it interesting how terrible authors get published and horrific pieces of art are glorified these days.


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5552330 - 04/24/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Some of the only modern abstract art i ever liked was produced by Basquiat. Basquiat to me is like a 5 year old Einstein who was painted black, fed speed balls and then commistioned to draw culture.

For some reason i just love his work, not all but a lot of it. Most other modern anstract art is shit IMO. However, I've kind of avoided it to some degree so I'm sure there are other artists out there i would like if i saw their work.


lol

Does anyone here care for the artwork of Pollack from the 40-50s? I can't help but think it and the artwork like it is pretentious crap(at least made into pretentious crap by art aficionados).


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Re: Art Sucks!!!!! [Re: d33p]
    #5553041 - 04/24/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Two of my favs...



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