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Now it's New Jersey's turn to jump on the anti-salvia wagon
    #5550851 - 04/24/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Lawmakers seek to ban herb
April 24, 2006 - courierpostonline.com

Salvia is well known to gardeners for its abundant blooms and to cooks as an herb (sage).

But one species of the popular plant is apparently becoming known to teenagers as a powerful hallucinogen.

A Delaware couple blames their son's suicide on Salvia divinorum, which is grown in Mexico, among other places with warm, semi-tropical climates, and is sold via the Internet mainly in leaf form to be smoked or ingested.

The substance is not regulated by the federal government -- the Drug Enforcement Agency is studying its use and availabilty -- but two states, Missouri and Louisiana, have banned its use.

Two assemblymen from Burlington County, Democrats Jack Conners and Herb Conaway, want to make New Jersey the third.

"Salvia divinorum is a potent hallucinogenic drug with serious potential for abuse," said Conaway, a physician. "We cannot allow young people to be deceived into thinking the drug is safe when we do not know the health impacts associated with use of this substance."

Brett Chidester, 17, Wilmington, committed suicide in January, leaving a note that his parents believe point to Salvia divinorum as a factor.

"How can I go on living after I learned the secrets of life?" Chidester wrote.

The plant, or more specifically a substance within it called salvinoran A, is said to have a tranquilizing effect that produces a "profoundly introspective state of awareness that is useful for meditation, contemplation and self-reflection," according to Daniel Seibert.

Seibert, a Californian who maintains a website on the substance, acknowledges that it can be abused but says that does not justify outlawing it.

Others say banning it would violate the First Amendment, noting that it is used in religious ceremonies by Indian tribes.

The assemblymen say they have not heard of any specific examples of abuse in New Jersey.

"Salvia divinorum use may not be a runaway epidemic, but it warrants attention," Conners said. "We should take preventive steps now."

There are more than 900 species of Salvia.

It comes in both annual and perennial varieties and is popular among gardeners because it has a long blooming season and produces spire-type flowers in purple, white, pink and blue, according to Rich Flagg, owner of Flagg's Garden Center in Moorestown.

"That's the first time I ever heard of that," Flagg said Friday when informed of the smoking phenomenon.


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Re: Now it's New Jerseys' turn to jump on the ant-salvia wagon [Re: veggie]
    #5551392 - 04/24/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea.
that kill himself because hes a fucking moron, NOT because of salvia.

this bandwagon of banning salvia (even though ive did it BUT do NOT do it) is fucking bullshit.

get off the salvia dick already, we need to focus on educating kids and not fucking just taking away whats "BAD" for them. fucking bullshit.


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Re: Now it's New Jerseys' turn to jump on the ant-salvia wagon [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5553744 - 04/25/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You're absolutely right. That kid was going to kill himself anyway. Salvia diviner had nothing to do with it. If things,substances and whatever are outlawed because of the children, alcohol,cars,knives,tobacco products, should also be outlawed. That kids mother should look at herself and her interactions with him and maybe blame herself. Just as there are age limits for drinking and driving ,the same rules should be applied to pot,salvia,psychedelic mushrooms. Our society should not make laws against things adults can use and children should not.


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Re: Now it's New Jerseys' turn to jump on the ant-salvia wagon [Re: jackflash]
    #5554344 - 04/25/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

anything is dangerous when it is abused.


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Re: Now it's New Jersey's turn to jump on the anti-salvia wagon [Re: veggie]
    #5651678 - 05/19/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

NJ to Crackdown on Salvia Use
May 19, 2006 - abclocal.go.com

Death of Delaware Teen Prompts Reform
The state of New Jersey is following in the footsteps of Delaware to crackdown on a potent drug that can be bought legally on the Internet. The death of a Delaware teen prompted that state to take drastic measures. Now his parents are joining forces with New Jersey lawmakers to bring a version of Brett's law to the Garden State.
After the death of a Delaware teen in January from a drug he bought legally on the Internet, his parents are now joining forces with lawmakers in NJ to bring a version of what's known as Brett's Law to the Garden State.

"I think the combination of depression and salvia, it was lethal for him."

Kathy Chidester of Pike Creek, Delaware is talking about her 17-year-old son Brett, an honor student who committed suicide in January after experimenting with an herb called salvia divinorum - also known as "Sage" and "Sally B". Native to Mexico, salvia is chewed or smoked and is considered the most powerful hallucinogen on earth with effects similar to LSD.

Salvia is not on the radar screen for most parents and police, but can be purchased cheaply and legally on the Internet where teens openly discuss its mind-altering effects.

Kathy Chidester/mother: "He wrote that it made him feel useless, pointless, his existence here meant nothing."

After Brett's death Delaware banned the substance and now New Jersey lawmakers want to do the same.

Assm. Jack Conners/D-Burlington County: "We need what I call a preemptive strike to crack down on its availability so people like Brett wont be tempted to experiment with it."

They're starting with the state-by-state approach, but legislators from New Jersey and Delaware say it would make more sense for the federal government to ban the sales and possession of salvia-divinorum nationwide.

Assm. Linda Stender/D-Union County: "We are banding together today to call upon the federal drug administration to categorize this hallucinogenic herb as a controlled dangerous substance."

Right now the DEA lists salvia as a "drug of concern". That's not enough for Brett Chidester's parents, who are using their son's death to try to save other kids who are experimenting with this potent and currently legal drug.


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