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OfflineSinistral
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Drummers.
    #5550311 - 04/24/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So, I've been drumming for a little over 4 years now and feel like I'm stuck on a plateau. When I sit down and start playing I try to just let go to come up with new things but always find to be regressing to the same basic rhythms, which makes every set sound ridiculously similar.

I try to let creativity flow, to come up with new sounds, new rhythms, but it goes nowhere.

Suggestions?


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Re: Drummers. [Re: Sinistral]
    #5550699 - 04/24/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

are you self-taught, or do you have real training?

If you are self taught, then go get some real chops. learn your radamacans and paradiddles.

If you have training, start playing along to albums with great drummers. Try playing along to Tool, or Zappa (always has great drummers) or try getting the hang of 311.


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Re: Drummers. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5553421 - 04/24/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, what he said. You could even try playing nothing but your snare for a while, just working on rudiments and sticking. Speaking of drummers who played wit hZappa, Terry Bozzio in a recent interview I read spoke of what he called a "law of opposites" wherein restriction leads to freedom and having too large of a pallete can be stifling, and this coming from the man who plays the largest drumkit ever constructed. It's freakin' huge.

You could also try working more with counter rhythms, stuff like Bill Bruford or Danny Carey plays alot of. Try learning the section in Eulogy Danny plays during "You - claimed - all - this - time..."


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Re: Drummers. [Re: Viveka]
    #5553693 - 04/25/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Funky drummer


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Re: Drummers. [Re: Sinistral]
    #5555721 - 04/25/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ive been playing almost 10 years, with a few years of formal training.
i have in the past, and to some extent still have this problem.

polyrhytms are where its at for me at this point.
for instance i can play in 3, 4, and 5 feels easily. so wat next? combine them.
things like 2 on your hihat and 3 or 5 in your hands.
most enjoyable for me at the moment is setting up a straight 16th note pulse in my feet(double kick) and playing 3, 5 and 7 feels over it in my hands.
symetry is an awesome challenge also.
try doing everything opposite of how u usually do it. i started with an easy 3 over 4 feel in my hands, right hand plays a 3, left plays a 4, then switch hands(or feet).

i had a guitar teacher a while back who used to say "i live for syncopation"
now that ive been playing long enough i know exactly what he means.

the other thing i think of is, lately for me, ive had to work on letting go of my expectations. im working on not being attatched to a specific sound.
sometimes you have to play silly things, and cheesy sounding things and out of sync sounding things. it builds towards resolution.
its really hard to play really slow and sound like a noob.
but its a nessisary part.

final advice is to play all the things u dont want to play, at the beggining of your practice, for as long as u can bear it. it should be slow, akward and mentally tiresome. after all is said and done it makes everything else more enjoyable.


btw check out my myspace site if u wanna hear some recordings of me :wink:
http://myspace.com/resonanceincorp

p.s. eat some fungus and jam alone for 4 straight hours :laugh:


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Edited by BleaK (04/25/06 06:14 PM)


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Re: Drummers. [Re: BleaK]
    #5557205 - 04/26/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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