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InvisibleLuddite
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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Redstorm]
    #5551620 - 04/24/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Greed is good. It provides incentive to work and produce.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Redstorm]
    #5551705 - 04/24/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Do they buy the politicians, or do they merely fund candidates that have the same ideals and goals as those corporations? Just something to think about....



Is there any meaningful difference, as far as the electorate is concerned?


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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5551750 - 04/24/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
You can't get food stamps or welfare if you are already getting financial aid for school.

I already looked into that.




Interesting. I did not know that.

I still stand by my assertion that most people earning $4,500 a year get more from the government than they give.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Silversoul]
    #5551756 - 04/24/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
Quote:

Redstorm said:
Do they buy the politicians, or do they merely fund candidates that have the same ideals and goals as those corporations? Just something to think about....



Is there any meaningful difference, as far as the electorate is concerned?




Not really in my opinion.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5551760 - 04/24/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's my take on the matter as well.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Silversoul]
    #5551788 - 04/24/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They almost always contribute to both sides so it is no doubt an attempt at ingratiation. Mostly that just means they get heard. Which they'd probably get anyway since they are such a big part of the economy. You don't ever see Coca Cola pulling a George Soros and sending millions of soft dollars to fund an anti-anything campaign.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: fresh313]
    #5551843 - 04/24/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
is the greediest fucking nation in the world, i havent put all the peices together yet but here are some.




Dude, what happens when you put the pieces together?????????????????
:sherm:


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5551853 - 04/24/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They almost always contribute to both sides so it is no doubt an attempt at ingratiation. Mostly that just means they get heard. Which they'd probably get anyway since they are such a big part of the economy. You don't ever see Coca Cola pulling a George Soros and sending millions of soft dollars to fund an anti-anything campaign.



Corporations fund both parties to make sure both of them will do what's in their best interest. Now, often their best interest coincides with society's self-interest, but there are several times when this is not the case, and we all suffer for it.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Silversoul]
    #5551873 - 04/24/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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zappaisgod said:
They almost always contribute to both sides so it is no doubt an attempt at ingratiation. Mostly that just means they get heard. Which they'd probably get anyway since they are such a big part of the economy. You don't ever see Coca Cola pulling a George Soros and sending millions of soft dollars to fund an anti-anything campaign.



Corporations fund both parties to make sure both of them will do what's in their best interest.




I disagree. I think that they get very little for their money. Surety is definitely not what they get. They get an audience, maybe sympathetic.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Silversoul]
    #5551932 - 04/24/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
Quote:

Redstorm said:
Do they buy the politicians, or do they merely fund candidates that have the same ideals and goals as those corporations? Just something to think about....



Is there any meaningful difference, as far as the electorate is concerned?




There is a difference, but not in the result. In my opinion, accepting money from someone who's ideals match yours is honest, while accepting enough money to change your ideals to their's is not.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Luddite]
    #5551972 - 04/24/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Luddite said:
Greed is good. It provides incentive to work and produce.




Greed is not good but a capitalistic society pushes people to compete against everybody else.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: downforpot]
    #5552012 - 04/24/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Society doesn't DO anything. People DO things. Society is a construct. An abstract. It cannot act. It can only be talked about. In generalities.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5552042 - 04/24/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A group of humans broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5552363 - 04/24/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know that my business opportunities are unique here in the
United States, compared to other nations throughout the world.......


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5553017 - 04/24/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

lol, anyways this thread is 2 funny, i cant even reply to all the nonsense qoutes out of context, assumptions about me, my life, my job, my character, and requests for proof. if u want proof look around u, i cant show you want u dont want to see.
i never said america was bad, just greedy[ier], yall go off on some crazy fuckin tangents.
if u want to actually research those points, provide some examples like my man Elusius be my guest, otherwise, dont, i give about 1 and a half flying fucks what u think of me, and my post, and my opinions. so trying to argue with someone who doesnt give a fuck wont really get u jack anywhere.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: fresh313]
    #5553247 - 04/24/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok, i do give a fuck. but its not about 90% of any of you. its about that single black mother who has 3 kids to supports, takes the greyhound 45 minutes to work to goto the rich white mall a city over where she could never even shop, to support her kids, while shes at work therye being raised by the public school system.

its about that guy who just got laid off after working 15years honestly and loyally and feels worthless cuz they packed up the factory and moved it overseas where its cheaper. Why do u think they can get away with paying people less to do the same job somewhere else. becuase living expenses are the right prices and not overinflated with bullshit.

thats what its about, and thats what its for, so dont turn that shit on you or me. cuz its not about us.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: fresh313]
    #5553272 - 04/24/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so where do you live now?

PS: thanks for letting us know what's up


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: Gijith]
    #5553367 - 04/24/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its not about me, if u wanna talk to me, personal message me.

so whats my plan, my plan is to get rich as fuck [ look up george soros ] the same way the flithy rich white people do it but instead of horde my shit and be all greedy as fuck ill get rich for those people, then when im rich as fuck ill actually be able to do something. until then, keep fighting the good fight brothers and sisters.


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: fresh313]
    #5553706 - 04/25/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
i cant even reply to all the nonsense qoutes out of context, assumptions about me, my life, my job, my character, and requests for proof.  if u want proof look around u, i cant show you want u dont want to see.

If u want to actually research those points, provide some examples like my man Elusius be my guest




That is not how a standard debate works.  When you make claims you need to back up what you are saying with proof if a person asks for it.  If you don't back up your claims then your veracity and your stances will be called into question.

All I have seen from you so far is hyperbole that is backed up by no facts.  :shrug:


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Re: American fuckuEnomicks [Re: fresh313]
    #5553719 - 04/25/06 01:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
its about that single black mother who has 3 kids to supports, takes the greyhound 45 minutes to work to goto the rich white mall a city over where she could never even shop, to support her kids, while shes at work therye being raised by the public school system.




I was educated in the public school system.  Poor me!!

Also, maybe Shaneekwa should have gotten an education or a skill of some kind and maybe she shouldn't have had a bunch of kids that she could not afford to support.

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fresh313 said:
its about that guy who just got laid off after working 15years honestly and loyally and feels worthless cuz they packed up the factory and moved it overseas where its cheaper. 




Life sucks and it isn't fair sometimes.  :shrug:


Edited by RandalFlagg (04/25/06 01:40 AM)


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