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KingSpade
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Salvia : A Breakthrough
#5549754 - 04/24/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It was a mere 20 minutes ago when I inhaled the deep cloud of smoke. I am just now returning and typing is a difficult task.
As the smoke filled my lungs I lay down my pipe, as well as my head on a comfortable pillow. I closed my eyes and held the smoke for as long as I could stand. During this I asked that Lady Salvia show herself to me, and let her know that I was here to learn. Before I knew it my world began to split into two.
Reality as I knew it was tearing apart in two directions right before me. As this continued I suddenly heard myself think, "Let the peeling begin..". I knew that it was time to make a decision, and so my trip began.
I could feel myself being sucked upward into the center of where reality was 'splitting in half'. I was suddenly flying off into a whirlpool deep in space, being sucked out of my normal reality completely now.
I saw an extremely intricate blue pattern, which I had perceived as a sort of map of all universes. I have a flickering memory of actually seeing my room changing universes, but its extremely hard to remember, let alone describe accurately.
The next thing that happened was very interesting. I became a large, black, rectangular prism. I could feel individual pieces of myself being pulled directly upward into space, and this caused a tingling sensation, perhaps even slight pain, yet it felt good.
I was being transformed from a prism, into many tiny square pieces, all being pulled up into space. As this was happening I felt a very strong presence, female. She appeared as a green energy, just as she did the first time I encountered her.
She seemed to be "working" on me, by pulling me up into space in a hundred little pieces. Her energy was flying all around me, and seemed to be examining me very well. After the Lady took me through several more experiences, she finally showed her face and smiled at me.
This was my second attempt with salvia, and I am planning on continuing my voyages with this amazing plant.
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: KingSpade]
#5551071 - 04/24/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I look forward to further updates on this.
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KingSpade
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Heres a little update you might find interesting. I didn't remember this part of my trip until after I had written the report and retired to my room last night. Its going to be a little hard to explain but I will do my best..
I smoked a fat bowl of bud before the salvia, to calm my nerves. I've heard that salvia "gets jealous" of other substances, but I wasn't sure I believed it.
During the middle of my trip, I sensed not only one spirit but two. They seemed to be speaking in a language that I could not understand, but I could tell they were not getting along.
It then appeared as if they were fighting. The first spirit seemed to hide right behind me, and then the second spirit charged from in front of me and pushed the other spirit away violently.
It was after this that I began to ascend upward into salvia space. Not really sure if it was all in my head, or if Sally does in fact get jealous if Mary is around. Either way, I still achieved a breakthrough after smoking some bud, so I don't see myself going out of my way not to smoke. Perhaps Sally and Mary will learn to get along some day..
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: KingSpade]
#5553876 - 04/25/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: Gomp]
#5555568 - 04/25/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey, I'd really like to experience something like this... How much Salv did you smoke? And what would you say the quality was?
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KingSpade
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: MustardMan]
#5556505 - 04/25/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The salvia used in my experience was a non-standardized 6x extract. I took a pinch out of the bag, enough for one large hit. Also, I stuck a small piece of joint paper in the bottom of my pipe so none of the salvia would fall through before it could be ignited. Good luck and remember to start out small
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chodamunky
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: KingSpade]
#5558443 - 04/26/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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for some reason I find the "lady salvia gets jealous" thing a bit silly
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Muppet69_420
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: chodamunky]
#5559548 - 04/26/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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chodamunky said: for some reason I find the "lady salvia gets jealous" thing a bit silly
Care to explain to us why that phrase toys with the nerves that so vigorously ushers in the desire towards issuing such a time-consuming reply that is as we know it a metaphorical meaning towards salvia, which in the definition of such a metaphor lies the meaning of a entity (her/mother IMO shows a sign of respect or a strikingly odd renowned definable outlook towards the effects in which salvia gives, doesn't it strike you as odd that its common or probably uncommonly used here and in my area its known as just the lady when referred or conveyed through reports such as this one for a example; you should look up "the Lady salvia" , Lady is a metaphoricaly based saying thats been used here and in my town as the substances effects or trip--a made up perceivness of that in which is salvia or involving the substance, experience, and is used by some like me to show respect and add flavor to anything to do with salvia. This is not a proven definition of the mteaphor but it is what I interpret when it is seen by me, and if I remember correctly a shroomerite is the responsible creator of such a metaphorical terminology or perhaps the shroomerite terminology is of exactness to that of "The Lady Salvia" and word around my town was influenced by something unknown to me, but the word got around and "the lady" is widely used here.
If my argument was intolerable because of a miss-interpretation of your remark towards the phrase "the lady salvia's jealous" then screw me a new one. If by jealous "of" then pardon my sense of joy thats being derived from the typing I so dearly hold dear in some points in life, which I feel excessive typing and of expressing any unknown outlook/thought to all my fellow shroomerites'. Forgive any misunderstandings/assumptions/ignorance/rudeness/unnecessary usage of vulgar in my replied counter attack towards a individual belief that one has right to have and express. Please forgive any abruptness that was permitted into the my written speech or specifically my directed informational text, which was written to enlighten and express my own fact/opion mix that are limbs of a core that was indefinitely created through a disturbance. I wished to give, and these ideas consisting of opions and a most undoubtedly small portion of researched, and personal witnessed in creation facts that were exchanged solely by my hand, belief, and feelings to the one responsible for the opinionated remark of the quotation "the lady salvia jealous," thanks and since all has been said and cautioned. The act of this huge document was developed for reasons of informing an uninformant about something or someone so that it would benefit and/or give the targeted person the truth of and understanding to the truth that seemed wrongly judged/interpretated. So if I was not correct in this informational text document than just push aside the thoughts, perceptions of the main idea you may have, and the feelings this brought upon you if such an accusations/opinions made were flat out meaningless to what you truly meant by what you had shared with us, and if not intentionaly did you wish for such remarks than please dont flame me just push the thought of any unawareness of anything you truly wanted to express, but as for any informational sections and statements within my text I commend such use/manipulation of them because what little was factual is always a benefit toward knowledge even if its about something so easily dispatched as common junk, as long as its something new to the know-what/how of any person and no less and no greater than what any truth be it small/non apparent in usage or significantly benefical to ones knowledge, in all its something that evidence back ups and in the way of creating a ?????????????: greek for three-dimensional. Truth is always a 100% and nothing less, but in exaggeration a 150% to show such benefit is most idealable, but thats an opinion of mine. My truth thats been expressed is nothing less than 100% correct and none the less a useful piece of information to understand a small piece of knowledge in which you might never use, and in this case it shows you could use such factual information perceived through my incredibly, indefinently, disliked by some, unimportant by many, and thought lowly of possibly, LONG text that regards some incoherent sentences, statements, and/or phrases. To bad revision is no way in hell agreeable on my part and im not wasting such a use of my time that I already wasted on this most likely useless argument and excessive use of uneeded explainations and expressions like this for example lol. 
I wrote way too much, but damn it was a nagging ambition of mine that screamed continuation untill satisfactory was acheived as a goal, which in completion of this still continuing text a sense of well being and euphoria is being emited. To bad this natural cause of euphoria isnt easyily triggered or confronted through everyday life. Im enjoying every minute of it and not to mention every 5 minutes a itch of persistance is scratched, and otherwise if not scratched a persisting itch occures. So I choose to scratch or i'd be in a intolerable position with constant two-dimensional thought, which would hardly allow me to acheive what it is I thrive to gain everyday, success and knowledge. Woah and Woah and Woah, they sure dont make stims' any less powerfull now do they? Stopping...now!
I should clarify this trophy document by saving it and then reading it when sober to see how much of a nonesense this dominion of thought is during a cool squeaky cleaned perception or outlook ahaha--you know even better is an decontaminated process of thought.
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Edited by Muppet69_420 (04/26/06 05:50 PM)
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redgreenvines
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5559643 - 04/26/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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the degree that cultures differ is even further exagerrated when you add a little drugs to the mix.
in order to help cultivate dignity (which goes a long long way in many thngs) why not be diplomatic!
someone wants the lady to be a being, someone else wants no lady to be jealous, there has to be a way to respect the variance, of these micro cultures in flux.
I am alone in my beliefs and lack of them yet I like to show respect for the rituals around me even those that make no sense whatever to me, the movements (of the rituals) are real even if I do not understand them.
some are quaint - some are beautiful. I want to be quiet and help if possible.
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chodamunky
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: Muppet69_420]
#5560859 - 04/26/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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okay, I will explain to you why I said that, though I must admit I couldn't stand to read your entire reply. 
I find it silly that she is jealous of you using other drugs while on 'her' because:
1) I don't necessarily believe that the Lady Salvia "spirit, being, or self-manifasted part of my ego" has or can have 'jealous emotions' towards other plants, especially ones that don't seem to have a spirit of their own. (i have never encountered any beings whilst high on weed). Remember, you are smoking a plant... the effects of the drug reallllly fuck you up (or clear your mind, depending on how you look at it).
2) the couple times I smoked weed and then salvia, I have not come across "her". I do not take this as her not wanting to show herself to me because I have taken another drug. Yes, it's a possiblity, but more likely it's due to the fact that a) i don't see Lady Salvia everytime I smoke only salvia, b) I possibly didn't smoke enough to get full effects, c) the weed can interact with the salvia and/or your brain to change the effects of the salvia.
3) Just the fact of assuming that spirits/beings/energy that is out of this world or dimension of reality can have the same type of ego like humans, with envy, greed, jealousy etc. is typical of us to do, and is with no merit to assume.
There, that's why I think it's silly, and I'm sorry if I got on your nerves for you to have to have to make that post. Perhaps some day I'll meet 'her' again and I can ask her if she gets jealous of people using other drugs while on salvia. I'll report back to you then
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: chodamunky]
#5560917 - 04/26/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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chodamunky said: okay, I will explain to you why I said that, though I must admit I couldn't stand to read your entire reply.  cheers
Never got on meh nerves I just felt like expressing .
Sorry lol it was influenced by a 2c substance.
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Edited by Muppet69_420 (04/26/06 10:47 PM)
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KingSpade
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: chodamunky]
#5561231 - 04/27/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Call it silly if you will, I respect that. Its hard for me to explain my views on salvia, but I think the effects may rely heavily on the user, and everything that occurs whilst on salvia is a reflection of your own inner workings.. I'm pretty fucked up right now but it makes sense to me
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: KingSpade]
#5562136 - 04/27/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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everything that occurs whilst on salvia is a reflection of your own inner workings
Yes, I could buy into that, a lot of my salvia experiences were personal and self-reflective. But, I have also had a few experiences where I just couldn't believe what I seen and experienced... like there was no way I could of imagined this stuff. I think at the lower doses, the trip can give many insighful self reflections and at the same time the higher doses are literally out of this dimension. Everytime I smoke the stuff I feel like salvia is showing me a slice of reality that exists in parallel with our common reality. A sort of higher energy layer superimposed over our physical world, and this superimposed layer has a much bigger connection to your brain and mind.
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Re: Salvia : A Breakthrough [Re: chodamunky]
#5565959 - 04/28/06 03:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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parallel is consistent with what I see. moments continuing beyond their normal scope in parallel with new sensation and thought.
the seeming independence of the parallel phenomena is mind boggling.
they are the extended wakes of this crazy little motor boat passing in the waters of mind.
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