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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlinedr0mni
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Change your mind
    #5547714 - 04/23/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"But the question is: are you the master of your domain?"

-Seinfeld


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5547738 - 04/23/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Umm... yes?


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Re: Change your mind [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5547778 - 04/23/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if we can't control our own minds, or at least understand them, then we are truly powerless


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5547780 - 04/23/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

understanding and knowledge leads to self improvement and change.

it's a feedback loop


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5548025 - 04/23/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It takes much practice and self-discipline to tame the mind, which is usually like a drunken monkey running hither and thither after all sorts of sensations and experiences.


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dblaney]
    #5548287 - 04/23/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, and being like a drunken monkey can be quite fun sometimes! but I guess that's the classic battle between the id and ego...


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5548350 - 04/23/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed, it's somewhat like irregular waves: sometimes you're at the crest and having a grand old time, and sometimes you're at the trough and having an awful time. Best to surrender yourself to the ocean and realize that you have always been the ocean and identifying with the ego was merely illusionary.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5550201 - 04/24/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Is the mind seperate from that which would control it?


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dr0mni]
    #5550204 - 04/24/06 04:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

this is like the lotus question.
the mind is a huge dynamic, gestalt plus history.

you can change your position or posture freely.
it will happen anyway since
change is given as part of the matrix.

steering change over a long period of time shows lots of character.


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Re: Change your mind [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5550549 - 04/24/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Is the mind seperate from that which would control it?

Yes and no. Here in the world of Maya, yes, it is. In fact, one generally needs to discriminate between the Atman and non-Atman in order to realize liberation. However, Maya can be said to be the nature of Brahman, thus it is dependent on Brahman for its existence.

So while the Atman is independent from the mind and is self-sustaining, the mind is not independent from the Atman.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Change your mind [Re: dblaney]
    #5554313 - 04/25/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

To me the mind is constantly flowing, it can not be stopped completely but it can be tamed. Once learning to tame the mind one can go on with ease of thought and not neglect any part of what the mind produces.


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Re: Change your mind [Re: Octavius]
    #5554517 - 04/25/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What is involved in taming the mind?


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