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Offlinewhatever123
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Re: flavored composting [Re: DrJ]
    #5549934 - 04/24/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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So......any way we can use chems and genetic engineering to speed the process up....without spending 50 grand per strain?


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Re: flavored composting [Re: whatever123]
    #5550018 - 04/24/06 02:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well you could indeed use genetic engineering, but only $50,000 to do that would be one hell of a bargain :smirk:

I don't see how using chems would do it, either. You could use chemicals to induce genetic mutations and see if something good develops... but everything still winds up taking a long time to breed selectively. And then there's the risk of other unseen mutations that weren't desired. Not to mention the fact that the kind of chemicals needed to make things mutate also make the end product hazardous and unfit for human consumption... that is unless the human wants mutations too.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Konnrade]
    #5550464 - 04/24/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah my assumption in my first post that theoreticaly certain ellements and essential oils from the blueberry compost may infact enhance certain floral notes in the bud is just theory.


As for selective breeding yeah that shit takes time! But any one can make their own crosses


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5550525 - 04/24/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Growing pot in "blueberry compost" will not make the pot taste like blueberries, or anything else for that matter. They sell tobacco flavoring online that you can spray on tobacco, I would assume it works for buds too. But cannabis isn't going to "drink up" some blueberry juice or apple juice, or cherry juice etc etc....... and taste like blueberry,apple, etc etc.... it just simply does NOT work like that.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5550571 - 04/24/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I just thought it could be possible with certain compounds in the compost to enhance certain flavours.
Not saying watering with juice, i just think the composted fruit might add certain compounds that could be used in the plants to enhace certain things.

Like i said with the wine countries of the world, the different climates and soil compositions make a huge variety of flavours in the wines made of the soil.
As i also said herb is going to take in what ever its habbitat is made of.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5551237 - 04/24/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Growing pot in "blueberry compost" will not make the pot taste like blueberries, or anything else for that matter. They sell tobacco flavoring online that you can spray on tobacco, I would assume it works for buds too. But cannabis isn't going to "drink up" some blueberry juice or apple juice, or cherry juice etc etc....... and taste like blueberry,apple, etc etc.... it just simply does NOT work like that.


Yeah it should man, root feed your plants with some artificial flavoring, it'll taste like it. So, I dont see why natural flavors wouldn't work


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
    #5551275 - 04/24/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry folks won't work. The plant won't process what it doesn't see as food. Like the way you can't get colored plants with food coloring. The only thing the plants will get is a little carbo boost from the sugars in whatever you use.
Wanna give it a fast test? cut off a bud with a little branch on it and put the cut end in a cup of juice or whatever. I've seen male flowers cut a few days before opening and put the cut end in water so they can live a few more days and open in another area so pollen can be collected away from other plants.  :wink:


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
    #5551427 - 04/24/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Taskenti said:
Growing pot in "blueberry compost" will not make the pot taste like blueberries, or anything else for that matter. They sell tobacco flavoring online that you can spray on tobacco, I would assume it works for buds too. But cannabis isn't going to "drink up" some blueberry juice or apple juice, or cherry juice etc etc....... and taste like blueberry,apple, etc etc.... it just simply does NOT work like that.


Yeah it should man, root feed your plants with some artificial flavoring, it'll taste like it. So, I dont see why natural flavors wouldn't work




you cant root feed your plant something to flavor it! I believed you could when I was like 13, but now I am a little more educated then that. But just a little more :wink:


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Magash]
    #5551448 - 04/24/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have seen plants which were cut and placed in water with food coloring. As the plant drew up the water, it also drew in food coloring. Of course, that was because the plant was cut at the absorbing tip. I don't know if it works through a root system.

My biology knowledge is pretty weak, but I know that the way plants take up moisture is not sophisticated or selective. They merely exploit capillary action and osmosis... both of which are natural forces. The plant is entirely passive in how it "drinks" from the soil. So, I would think that it's possible for chemicals to be taken in with the water, as long as the water is not hypertonic compared to the plant.

The plant won't process chemicals that it has no use for, but I doubt that means they can't absorb them passively.

Soil type can affect the flavor of vegetables, after all. Part of that is no doubt due to nutritional reasons, but I don't doubt that some of it is due to what else the plant absorbs from the soil.

Of course, were I trying to give a plant some flavor, I would just inject the damn flavor into the live plant.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Konnrade]
    #5551479 - 04/24/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm gonna go  outside and water my tomato plant with some pineapple juice. I wonder if my tomatoes will taste like pineapples?!?!? :shocked: Sound logical? Come on now.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5552456 - 04/24/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They way you say it just makes it sound stupid for your benefit.......

We know that plants actual absorb 100's of trace elements. If certain elements are only found in certain fruits threw that plants synthesis then who is to say that another plant cant already synthesis that synthesized chemical?

I guess you can say i disagree. But you take it to an extreme measure to prove your point that its far out. It is far out! But i am still stead fast in my own beliefs that a plant is a product of its environment and can embody the flavor of the earth it grows upon.

Hence the chemy taste of hydro and the earthy tastes of organics.........


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5552666 - 04/24/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thats because sugars and whatnot are produced differently in different areas/soils, because of different nutrient levels and whatnot. And I didnt say it to make it "sound stupid for my benefit" I said it how it is! Water your plants with pineapple juice or grow it in blueberry compost. The only thing that will be affected is the nutrients/sugars the plant gets/processes. So if I grew my weed in horse shit, would I grow shit weed that taste like shit? No. If I grew weed in blueberry compost would it taste like blueberry? Yeah, if it had that in its genes.
You are saying just what I said in the previous post. If I water my tomato plants or grow them in some blueberry compost, my tomatoes will taste like blueberries. They simply will NOT.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5552702 - 04/24/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i agree with you on many points.

I dont see it on your level totaly. I dont agree that blueberry compost makes blueberry weed, but i could see it hypotheticaly adding certain atributes.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5552724 - 04/24/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, but the original poster is saying that you can basically flavor your weed by what you grow it in. You simply can NOT do that. you can make certain tastes or smells more noticeable, but you simply CAN'T do what he is suggesting. At all.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5552790 - 04/24/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok i agree! I guess i just got swayed of course a little


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5552861 - 04/24/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:yesnod:


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5553489 - 04/25/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry folks.


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Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
    #5554319 - 04/25/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that would be a good experiment


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Re: flavored composting [Re: GoFsum1]
    #5554379 - 04/25/06 09:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

We just went over all this. NO it would NOT! It would be a waste of time.


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