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DT w/ no poo?
    #5542761 - 04/21/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have mentioned this a few times around the bords and i finally want to make it it's own topic.

Start out with WBS. Spawn 50/50 to coir in large ziplock bags untill colinised. From there into the DT w/ 50/50+ top layer.

Will this work? :smile:


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5542764 - 04/21/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sure will..why not...its just like a huge casing..i imagine it would work,


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5542771 - 04/21/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, once i am done with my semi double tub, did you see the new setup yet?


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543760 - 04/22/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Why is it that just about everyone i talk to hates coir....

Any positive feed back to this DT?


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543809 - 04/22/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Most people seem not to like it as a casing layer.

I don't remember who suggested it first. But I've started adding it to my horse manure... I've seen my colonization times increase.

Your tek will work fine I'm sure. Here's how agar explains how to use coir.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5150228#Post5150228

I would make a change to your tek tho.
I wouldn't mix my spawn with the coir inside of the large ziplock bags. Because once it is fully colonized you will have to break it apart to put it into the double tub. This will damage the mycelium network. And waste it's energy trying to repair it's self....it's also harder to get an even substrate layer like this.

I'd suggest just microwave pasteurizing the coir. Like agar's tek says to do. Then mix the spawn with it directly in the tub you plan to fruit from... like I said. It will be less damaging to the mycelium.


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543820 - 04/22/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Coir is typically hated as a casing layer used 60/40 with verm.

Agar has a topic you should look at where he did semi-bulk with coir.

You should get decent results from this although from what i understand potency will be lacking...however if you go to a garden store you could pick up some blood meal or kelp meal and add that to the coir, which should increase the nitrogen.


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: musher_420]
    #5543837 - 04/22/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

cool, yea i have read that about 100 times. Hehe i love his work. So what i should so is just spawn it in the tubs and cover it for like 3-5 days w/ like a garbage bag? In a dark enviroment of course.

Then i add 50/50 verm/peat or 50/50 verm/coir for the top caseing layer?

And do i have to mist the caseing before it goes into the DT, or do i never mist. Only part i was confused about :smile:


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543862 - 04/22/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

id mist simple beucase in the DT you are getting humidity from nowhere else but your casing layer. but don't over mist that beucase thats never good. basically don't let it dry out. this would mostly depend on the RH of where you live, inside your house. if you live in the desert your going to be misting tons. rainforest probably not much if any.


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543879 - 04/22/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Pasteurize the coir.

Place tin foil into the bottom of the tub so it covers the sides, (to stop annoying side pins on the first flush. Garbage bags have been a pain in the ass for me.  I like to use tin foil now.)  Then mix the coir and wbs spawn together.

Even out the top as best you can, then cover with some more tin foil.  don't forget to poke holes in it for gas exchange.. (just go slasher flick on it with a sharp knife..it's what I do :laugh:)

Allow that to colonize then add your casing layer...If your using coir as the substrate I wouldn't put it into the casing layer.. Peat with 10% oyster shell flour and verm 50/50 is what works for me.


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: musher_420]
    #5543905 - 04/22/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

great, thanks for the help! I will make sure to get the den den den slasher sound as i am poking the tin foil for gas exchange :smile:


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543913 - 04/22/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Musher i just realised that my guide to every question I have just about had, has come from your write up: My Personal Favorite Shroomery Links. I would like to thank you for that write up as well as your advise :smile: your a GRAET help. Let me know if there is anything i can ever do for you.


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543915 - 04/22/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Then i add 50/50 verm/peat or 50/50 verm/coir for the top caseing layer?




No coir, i'd go with the peat and verm. :thumbup:

Bluehelix has a write-up about it, i'll look for the link

-Gnostic

EDIT: 50/50 Coco Coir Versus 50/50 Peat Moss


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: Babo911]
    #5543939 - 04/22/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Just pay it forward :wink: :thumbup: LOL


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Re: DT w/ no poo? [Re: musher_420]
    #5543982 - 04/22/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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musher_420 said:
Just pay it forward :wink: :thumbup: LOL




I try, i got a few noobs converted from store bought tek, to home made :smile: and a few free prints to select people, it all comes back around like today :smile: thanks again!


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