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Invisiblemicololo2
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My 55 gal. drum
    #5540921 - 04/21/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This drum cost me $47. $20 the drum + $15 cover metal sheet, $12 bolts, nuts, secutity valve. Everything to make: the drum rack, drums floors and 90 degrees metal angles were taken at the scrap yard.


the drum rack support


the rack over the burner


the drum on the rack


third floor (in the drum)


second floor


the cover

You can see on the photo no.3 the size of the gaz thank. You can use it for 2 drums at a time. It's $65 to fill that thank and ster.-past. between 350-400 6Pds. bags for an average of $0.18 per bag.
The empty thank cost me $100.

I work with 144 Pds sawdust sub. per drum at a time per 2.45 hours.

Hopping you've enjoyed this thread


Edited by micololo2 (04/21/06 12:31 PM)


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5541002 - 04/21/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I had your drum set man... heh heh ... Good Stuff!!! peace


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5542733 - 04/21/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:  :smile:


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: falcon]
    #5543293 - 04/22/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Excellent, Micololo! Thanks for the pics of yr hardware.

I will find some grillwork to make shelves of. That'll multiply the barrels payload big time.

Does the 'top floor' rest directly on the sawdust bags below it?
I'm curious that you use aluminum foil to cover the racks. Avoiding punctures?

I did what I has signs of being my first successful straw paz'ing: Copelandia spawn is jumping off to the straw now after a week. No funky smells yet.

These guys call for no air exchange, and thrive in high CO2. I've put about twenty inocculated freezer bags (with punctures) into a garbage bag lineing a cardboard box. Does that sound right?


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: nijusan]
    #5543332 - 04/22/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hi mate, how is made the metal cover of the drum? doesn't the hot stem go out trought the metal cover and the drum during the pasteurization?
How do you control the security valve? sorry mate but i'm afraid to turn on that monster!!! :laugh:


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5543614 - 04/22/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like someone is actually putting to use what everyone has dissed me for talking about for years. Normally when i bring it up everyone says you're going to kill yourself!

But you know what I'm talking bout! Good for you.
How many bags can you fit per level 9 or so?

So i guess all it takes to make people understand is a few pictures.......

Good for you!


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Invisiblemicololo2
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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: nijusan]
    #5544400 - 04/22/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

nijusan said:
Excellent, Micololo! Thanks for the pics of yr hardware.

I will find some grillwork to make shelves of. That'll multiply the barrels payload big time. The shelves are removable. I don't think you can install more than 24 bags in the drum

Does the 'top floor' rest directly on the sawdust bags below it? No, look on the second shelf photo, you'll see 90 square metal angles welded on the side walls of the drum. The shelve sit on these angles.
I'm curious that you use aluminum foil to cover the racks. Avoiding punctures? Aluminium foil is to protect the bags from rust or durt. The steam is traveling in the drum between the shelves and the sidewalls of the drum.

I did what I has signs of being my first successful straw paz'ing: Copelandia spawn is jumping off to the straw now after a week. No funky smells yet.

These guys call for no air exchange, and thrive in high CO2. I've put about twenty inocculated freezer bags (with punctures) into a garbage bag lineing a cardboard box. Does that sound right?




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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: FreeSporePrints]
    #5544426 - 04/22/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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FreeSporePrints said:
hi mate, how is made the metal cover of the drum? If you want photos of it just askdoesn't the hot stem go out trought the metal cover and the drum during the pasteurization?There is no gasket seal. So pressure stay low, very low. When pressure is starting to built, it goes out naturally between the cover and the drum. The valve is only for security. If you open the valve while boiling there is a pressure who blow steam out for about 18 inches for 2 or 3 seconds
How do you control the security valve? You don't really have to use it. You could built one without valve. I've never seen pressure built up in the drum but?sorry mate but i'm afraid to turn on that monster!!! :laugh:




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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5544432 - 04/22/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Corporal Kielbasa said:
Sounds like someone is actually putting to use what everyone has dissed me for talking about for years. Normally when i bring it up everyone says you're going to kill yourself!

But you know what I'm talking bout! Good for you.
How many bags can you fit per level 9 or so?8

So i guess all it takes to make people understand is a few pictures.......

Good for you!




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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5545376 - 04/22/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

OK, a bit of welding (or some rack system) to hold two layers of bags stacked above each other.

Gotta' friend who can do the 90 degree brackets.

The pictures were invaluable.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: nijusan]
    #5546275 - 04/23/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

uh ok everything is clear :smile:

thank you mate


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: nijusan]
    #5546734 - 04/23/06 06:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What do you mean by invaluable


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5547373 - 04/23/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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micololo2 said:
What do you mean by invaluable




He appreciates them.  Nice setup  :laugh:


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5549708 - 04/23/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Isn't that sucker gonna go rusty as hell after a few times of using it? Thats my bet.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: zee_werp]
    #5550317 - 04/24/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The drum you've seing on the photos is 16 months old and have
ster.-past more than a thousand bags.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: micololo2]
    #5550577 - 04/24/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i noticed some corosion though dont you Micololo?
More like a black tarnish


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5551000 - 04/24/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

where do you get bags for 18 cents each micololo2?


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: newearthmushroom]
    #5552036 - 04/24/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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newearthmushroom said:
where do you get bags for 18 cents each micololo2?




The $.18 is what it costs him in energy to sterilize each bag. You can get bags for around that price too, but you'll have to buy 1000 or more.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: newearthmushroom]
    #5552372 - 04/24/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If every one knew, people wouldnt be selling them for .25...... All i got to say is do some research and have enough cash to buy them all, and find the main guy and you to could get them for cheap.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5553079 - 04/24/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hint: The company is named after a mythical creature :grin:.  They will even send you free samples.  I got about 30 free bags :thumbup:


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: pshawny]
    #5555019 - 04/25/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thats a good hint!


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5558351 - 04/26/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Im thinking of using the same kind of drums to pasteurize compost, but with a hot plate instead of a burner ( I want to pasteurize for about two days to be sure) how do you keep the steam temp in the right range?


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: FGL]
    #5560057 - 04/26/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Trial and error. I never done it with a hot plate. You would be the first i geard of. Make sure to let us know though.

You can shop around and rig up a pressure gauge or rig up a rocker from a pressure cooker.

We never shoot for exact. Steam also escapes from around the lid. You dont want it tight because if something goes wrong it will blow up.

Better becareful running it for two days. Water never stayed in that long. Longest running time we had was about 8 hours with propane burners under it.

We burnt a few bags every now and again.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5566457 - 04/28/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Corporal Kielbasa said:
Better becareful running it for two days.  Water never stayed in that long.  Longest running time we had was about 8 hours with propane burners under it. 

We burnt a few bags every now and again.




Maybe with a closed drum full of water connected through a hose to the drum with the compost to be pasteurized, the water could stay for two days or longer without evaporate, and you always could refill the water drum at any time you need it without disturbing the compost temp :thumbup:.  What do you think?


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: FGL]
    #5667800 - 05/24/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you open the valve while boiling there is a pressure who blow steam out for about 18 inches for 2 or 3 seconds...

That sounds like about 5psi at least... lol...


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: Terantula]
    #5668972 - 05/24/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hi FGL, micololo showed us that is necessary just 2.45 hours to obtain a good sterilization...in my opinion is always better don't play a lot with heat and ermetic drums, expecially for 2 days!:)


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: FreeSporePrints]
    #5905487 - 07/27/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the well made thread, it is inspiring! It's hard to find solid techniques for a moderately sized operation.


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Re: My 55 gal. drum [Re: phalcon005]
    #5909133 - 07/28/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Always looking to use cheap ways to grow mushrooms. Otherwise you'll need a lot of money and this market is really risky.
If you stop using your drum for a while and you want to protect it from the rust, I suggest you to wipe the inside part with vegetal oil. Just clean it with a cloth before reusing it.


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