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gogrowgo123
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I hate 420
#5539178 - 04/20/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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420, in my opinion, is one of the best ways to make negative progress in the battle to make the plant legal. this "holiday" is very popular among high schoolers and college students, and when the majority of them celebrate it they get high and sometimes add other drugs in large groups during a time when all cops are on the lookout for this.
in my experience, lots of peopel get in trouble on 420 cause they go all out. nothing is gonna look worse to the government than a bunch of 15 year olds having a holiday to smoke weed.
so much un needed attention. do things that would promote responsible use and not abuse. i for one would love to be able to get medical marijuana for my back pain from someone other than the guy at the corner.
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stemmer
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No shit dude. I dont understand why 420 should be anything other than an other day when people smoke weed as usual. It does bring some level of immaturity to the forefront of the so called "drug culture".
If they made an lsd-day, the problem that a holiday like this presents would be all the more obvious. Why make a day so important in that way. I mean yes, weed-fest only happens in some states, and its kinda cool to be there with all the music and what not. But a specific day that makes people feel like something special is happening, and that its time to let loose. It just seems juvenile. I thought it was stupid when I was a juvenile.. It just makes drug users seem like some decrepit, fun-seeking sect in america today.
Im not a fan of a holiday that tells kids: "ok, now its time to smoke some pot, its fun, see all the retards who celebrate this retarded holiday".
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5539386 - 04/20/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well you both have your points.
However 420 is more than a juvenile pointless holiday. Its a day when pot smokers of all differnet backgrounds poke smot to represent that pot is supported by Americans. This is the day when the government realizes how many peolpe all over use this wonderful drug
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holysmoke
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5539395 - 04/20/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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for me it is just another day to smoke weed, but its hard to turn down a reason to celebrate. you drank on st patricks day right? same deal. as far as aiding the cause of legalization, i can see how it might not be the best idea because people do get stupid and the cops know whats up by now. i have often thought that a good step in the direction of legalization would be some sort of symbol that tells everyone youre down for the cause, livestrong bracelets, some shit like that. i like 420 because people do seem a little more open about their use, open is good, irresponsible is not. remember man WE outnumber them. oh, and dali is the shit.
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stemmer
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I didnt drink on st patricks day. I had one hell of a night the day before though. But thats only because my reason to drink doesnt come to me because of a holiday or because everyone else is doing it and it would be fun to make a statement that for the most part goes unheard..
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5539449 - 04/20/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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sure its dumb to all go outside and smoke but its a great way to relax before a weekend listen to some music have a circle of good good friends just smoke and chill out on the couch not causing anybody any problems and just be together with the ones you enjoy being with and have a good time. i happen to be shrooming tonight just a nice little gram of some very potent shrooms havin a great time so far.
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I don't mean to be negative, but since the chances of full-on legalization (in the United States) are so incredibly low at this point, I don't think that 4/20 has much of an impact on the prospect of legalization. If our drug policy regarding marijuana improves, it's going to have a lot more to do with better education, less ignorance, more common sense, and--possibly most important--the passage of time, than with 4/20.
But I think I understand what you mean. For example, since marijuana was made "legal" here in California for medicinal purposes, the drug is not properly controlled or monitored from growth to patient to doctor to distribution. It's very easy to get a prescription for medical marijuana, and a good deal of the dispensaries are not helping the cause, because they operate in an unprofessional manner--like they're all stoned. This does not set a good example, and only serves to reinforce the notion held by many that the whole thing is just a crock and an excuse to get stoned.
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Trippy_Search
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420 is the day i dont smoke
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Actually legalization is on the rise. Even Conservatives have been going easy on weed to get votes. But I'm to lazy to find the actually source so I guess this is all technically inaccurate evident
But it was on the BBC and it had all to do with the prospects of legalizing weed. I think weed will be legal in 20 years. 1 in 4 Americans have tried weed.
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Trippy_Search said: 420 is the day i dont smoke
I don't think I've ever smoked on 4/20. I'm probably going to smoke a bowl tonight, but it's probably goign to be after 12:00 when it's goign to be 4/21. I also like Bicycle Day (4/19) better.
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: pantsboy]
#5539884 - 04/21/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see your point, but I think that the tradition of rolling over and letting the govt. fuck us and tell us how to live/think/die poses a larger impediment to legalization than any stoner holiday. BTW, what date WOULD lsd-day be held on?
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Paranoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid.
Nah I'm just playin G.
But strait up.
It's alright ya know, 420 is a chillin day as long as it doesn't get out of control.
I agree with you about it being bad cause like the kids who brag about it to teachers and stuff like thats bull...
But like, for the cool people who like chilland blaze in thier own humble abodes it's kinda a nice thing to do i think yeah it's cool I guess.
But like, I don't kno wwhat I'm talkin gabout..
I'm still 420'd up quite a bit, so ya know what, I think 420's rather nice indeed.
Rather nice indeed.
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: Tyrone_C]
#5541041 - 04/21/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck 420, from a pot smoker for over 17 years ...lol
I do not celebrate this day for the simple reason is that I hate this day. Many reasons here are few.
It's Hitlers birthday,
and Columbine,
Most dont recognize it but I do,
It is a pointless and meaningless day, it's an arbitrary day to celebrate, like the Chretien's putting so much it to their holy days...it's all a joke.
I celebrate the green goddess everyday
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sorry to say but Marijuana is illegal in almost every country in the world. Considering how conservative USA is, Marijuana just is NOT going to ever be legalized.
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5541220 - 04/21/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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stemmer said: No shit dude. I dont understand why 420 should be anything other than an other day when people smoke weed as usual. It does bring some level of immaturity to the forefront of the so called "drug culture".
If they made an lsd-day, the problem that a holiday like this presents would be all the more obvious. Why make a day so important in that way. I mean yes, weed-fest only happens in some states, and its kinda cool to be there with all the music and what not. But a specific day that makes people feel like something special is happening, and that its time to let loose. It just seems juvenile. I thought it was stupid when I was a juvenile.. It just makes drug users seem like some decrepit, fun-seeking sect in america today.
Im not a fan of a holiday that tells kids: "ok, now its time to smoke some pot, its fun, see all the retards who celebrate this retarded holiday".
spoken like a true pot head.
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pong
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: bababoey]
#5541401 - 04/21/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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haha. you guys take things way too seriously.
420 is a great day. Its spring time, mad people smoke pot with people they wouldnt usualy smoke with. Eventualy the bill that legalizes marijuana will be passed on 420(prolly not, bopefully haha). people celebrating something illegal is the big "FUCK YOU" the man needs to hear. haha
and when you look at it for what it is, a day where some people go all out and roll huge joints and smoke alot of marijuana. is it really worth bashing?
we should now start ripping on amsterdams tourist industry. where people go to smoke lots of grade A herbs.
Edited by pong (04/21/06 03:32 PM)
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stemmer
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: bababoey]
#5541879 - 04/21/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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bababoey said:
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stemmer said: No shit dude. I dont understand why 420 should be anything other than an other day when people smoke weed as usual. It does bring some level of immaturity to the forefront of the so called "drug culture".
If they made an lsd-day, the problem that a holiday like this presents would be all the more obvious. Why make a day so important in that way. I mean yes, weed-fest only happens in some states, and its kinda cool to be there with all the music and what not. But a specific day that makes people feel like something special is happening, and that its time to let loose. It just seems juvenile. I thought it was stupid when I was a juvenile.. It just makes drug users seem like some decrepit, fun-seeking sect in america today.
Im not a fan of a holiday that tells kids: "ok, now its time to smoke some pot, its fun, see all the retards who celebrate this retarded holiday".
spoken like a true pot head.
But I dont smoke pot..... Anyways, no its not worth bashing, and I dont "hate" the "holiday". I just think its kinda stupid. I just think pot should be taken more seriously. I never celebrated it for reasons I wont take the time to explain. When I was alot younger, I didnt celebrate it if not only to separate myself from most of the stoners my age who just liked to get all fucked up and saw this day as an opportunity to do so to the extreem. Thats all it is really, it doesnt make much of a statement. At hemp-fests, sure people are smoking weed, but they are also doing all the things that are hemp related and legal, all in one small area. So its an interesting place to be, and it does remind folks about how many responsible adults smoke pot and respect the herb for the truely amazing and versatile plant it is....
"we should now start ripping on amsterdams tourist industry. where people go to smoke lots of grade A herbs." PONG, that has nothing to do with it what so ever.
There could indeed be a more interesting version of this same holiday, one that celebrates this drug as a serious substance, even an amazing sort of subtle hallucinogen. Even the same holiday but with some interesting religious or spiritual conotations. How does this differ from 4/20? Its simple really, just look at the types of people who celebrate that holiday. I naturally just dont care to take part or forget about it entirely, and would rather seperate myself from those types of people who do celebrate it.
Needless to say, I wouldnt celebrate it reguardless of the conotations, or who celebrates it. Im just not a holiday kind of a guy. Especially when they have to do with drugs, I guess.
Edited by stemmer (04/21/06 06:38 PM)
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5542238 - 04/21/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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werd. dude i know that shit about amsterdam has nothing to do with it. i wrote it to be ridiculous. sorry its hard to type something light hearted.
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b1tH
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: pong]
#5542759 - 04/21/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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4-19 is a way better holiday. Bicycle day bitch!
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On 4/20 here in Vancouver we're more organized and everybody gathers at the art centre. There's even a free concert! (I think it was Jurassic 5 this year?). THe police don't do anything but observe, otherwise they might start a riot, at least I think that's why they don't do anything! There's also vendors selling pot cookies and rice krispies and stuff and the marijuana party passes out some free joints to the crowd.
HOW COULD YOU HATE 4/20???
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: Wysefool]
#5542804 - 04/22/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, 420 is a stupid holiday. But it's fun. There's lots of things going on, lots of stuff to do. For one day all the stonners get together and mingle like they wouldn't usually because we all share a basic love for this plant. Sure, some highschool kids are stupid and haven't realized that the cops know what's happening, but they're going to do that whether you like the day or not. I celebrate pot every day as well, 420's just a day to celebrate it to the best of your ability because 1) you can 2) it's a nice way to spend the day.
People celebrate Valentine's Day, St Patrick's Day, you can hardly claim that christmas is a religious thing anymore, most kids probably don't even know what Easter's about. Holidays are all stupid, they're just an excuse to endulge and let loose a little... After all, what other day of the year could you walk into a headshop and be led into the back of the store bby the owner only to find him and a couple friends sparking a joint willing to share it simply because we're all potheads?
What next? Gonna complain about the marijuana march?
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stemmer
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Nope, not going to complain about that either. 420 just says alot about many who smoke pot, and Id rather not be a part of it.
Its more about personality types than anything else. To each his own, thats how we define each other.....
Im just not the type of guy who celebrates some day of the year to remember weed and demystify it by making it look like an everyday stoner type thing gone mad. It shows little self control. In that way it does remind me of christmas and easter. Its all Eggs and tinsel to me.
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Re: I hate 420 [Re: stemmer]
#5543274 - 04/22/06 07:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I celebrate my Weed Anniversary (December 12th) but I've always ended up working on 4/20.
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