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homusubi
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What is this mushroom??
#5539135 - 04/20/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hi ppl, a friend of me have a lot of plants and cactus at home, and some days ago he got this little visitor under hes Ficus... what can it be? maybe this is useful... i live in Chile, in a city thats next to the sea, here its autumn, its wet, and its 8-16 ?C...

thx from satisfying my curiosity =P
Edit: fixed image size ;D
Edited by homusubi (04/20/06 10:31 PM)
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shroomydan
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5539205 - 04/20/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow those are pretty. 
I think maybe Lepiota rachodes, the Shaggy Parasol (Macrolepiota rachodes). Of course If you want any degree of certainty, then you need to post the info requested in the rules thread.
BTW, if anybody knows; what is Macrolepiota? Is it a sub-genus of Lepiota, or is it a super-genus which encompasses lepiota and others, or is it a sister genus of lepiota?
Cool shrooms, homusubi .
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5539263 - 04/20/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those are some NICE specimens.
I'd have to agree based on the picture alone, with the lepiota rachodes label.
Also, when I did a search to try and see a difference between lepiota rachodes and macrolepiots rachodes, there was none. In fact, the link i followed for both species led me to exactly the same page. Perhaps they are the same species whose genus is recognized by two names due to some new discovery of closer relation to another genus that had not before been realized, and so the shroom had been originally misplaced, and someone decided to credit the relative genus by renaming it??? I'm just throwing ideas around....
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5539367 - 04/20/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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As far as I know Macrolepiota was branched off of Lepiota. Some of the larger species that were once classified as Lepiotas are now classified as macrolepiotas. To homusubi: if you could describe the gills - attachment, color, and spore print color, that would help us feel more sure about what it is. All that I see in those photos are the caps and some of the stem. They also are stretching things on the whole page out. If you resized the image things would look better from my end.
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: CureCat]
#5539401 - 04/20/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey thx ;D
I like to put all info asked... buuuuuuuutttt, i haven't even see the mushroom my self =( I will ask hem all the info next time i talk with hem...
I also have other friend that got like 10x3m of big, nice, red, and beautiful amanitas at home... I'm so jealous! When I get some pics from hem, I will post them so u can see them ;D anyway, I'm not even sure if they are amanita, thats what he says =P so i advice hem not to eat them, i told hem there where some mushrooms that really like each other, and he could die... but hes so exited with the idea of having such a field of magic mushrooms, that I'm a bit scared...
i will wait ur advice...
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5540500 - 04/21/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i told hem there where some mushrooms that really like each other,
That's my kinda Freudian slip  Amanita will have white, free gills and display concentric rings at the base of the stipe.
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5541786 - 04/21/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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beautiful mushrooms,
do the caps or stems bruise an orange or reddish color?
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#5542625 - 04/21/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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GGreatOne234 said: beautiful mushrooms,
do the caps or stems bruise an orange or reddish color?
dont know.. i havent see the mushrooms =(
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552178 - 04/24/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have some new info.. the spores are white... do that confirm that it is a Lepiota rachodes, the Shaggy Parasol (Macrolepiota rachodes)??
also, if they are so... can u eat them?
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Edited by homusubi (04/24/06 07:31 PM)
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552228 - 04/24/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lepiota rachodes drops white spores, but so do other Lepiotas, some of which may be poisonous. But yeah, they are most likely Lepiota rachodes. There is a certain leap of faith required to eat any mushroom. Your own ID is the only one that really matters when it comes to eating wild mushrooms.
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5552244 - 04/24/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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what do u mean, with: "Your own ID is the only one that really matters when it comes to eating wild mushrooms. "
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552340 - 04/24/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some disembodied soul on the internet could tell you something, but how do you know he is not bullshitting, and how do you know he is not stupid, ignorant, or evil?
There is a certain leap of faith which must be made before eating any mushroom. You can trust us if we are trust-worthy, but everybody makes mistakes. The one holding a mushroom in his hand has the best perspective to Id the mushroom.
I like to think that I give pretty good advice about mushroom ID, but I was wrong at least once, and I have seen others on the trusted list make mistakes, though never a dangerous mistake (as far as I know).
People make mistakes, especially when all they have is an image on a computer screen. The person who sees, hears, feels, smells and tastes the mushroom is better equipped to ID it than some disembodied soul on the internet.
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5552387 - 04/24/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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sure.. but for the moment, you are more trust-worthy than me... or at last, you know more than me... i can see, smell, taste, etc, etc, etc, the mushroom, but i don't know much about them... so it doesn't help much... the only thing i have over, is to trust you, the rest of the guys, and a other dude i know...
hope this is not a evil forum :P
BTW, do you think i can trust that the spore ring send by FSRE and/or FSRCanada, are really the ones that are supposed to be?
Edited by homusubi (04/24/06 08:18 PM)
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552513 - 04/24/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. The free spore ring people don't have the resources to test each print to see what it is.
If you grow from a spore print that came from someone you don't know and trust, then there is a chance it may not be what it is claimed to be. I know that even a Shroomery sponsor made an ID mistake once. It wasn't a life endangering mistake, but it just shows that sometimes even the most trustworthy people can be in error. You need to educate yourself to the point where you are confident enough in your own ID to trust your own judgment.
That's what makes mushroom hunting an extreme sport like rock climbing. If you slip up you could die!
Be obedient to your awareness and you will be OK.
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552542 - 04/24/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Homusubi.....I would probably recommend that this is probably not a good choice for you if there is any thought of consumption......the mushroom you have is a Lepiota that bruises a reddish color.....Lepiotas that bruise reddish colors are among the deadliest mushrooms known......believe me you dont want to trust anyone HERE to make that distincion for you....especially from Chile.....and potted plants can have a history of being bombed by chemicals.....and I can only imagine what else if you know what I mean.....
Very beautiful clearly detailed photograph though....fun to look at when it opened up......interesting occurence.....cool find !
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5552694 - 04/24/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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jajaja, u mean a sponsor did sell a spore print that was not the supposed one??
damn... in this world you cant trust anyone =P ok, if i get some nice flush, i will send some pics to be sure... damn rice, i buy one that was supposed to be organic, and nothing colonize it.. NOTHING, not even when i trow the cooked rice in a plate and let it in the kitchen for one week... I'm really wondering what that rice haves...
I'm getting some mycelium from B+, of a guy that i meet in the forum, hope hes also not evil =P
his B+ a hybrid of azurescens and some other cubensis... is that right?
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroominDole]
#5552735 - 04/24/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroominDole said: Hey Homusubi.....I would probably recommend that this is probably not a good choice for you if there is any thought of consumption......the mushroom you have is a Lepiota that bruises a reddish color.....Lepiotas that bruise reddish colors are among the deadliest mushrooms known......believe me you dont want to trust anyone HERE to make that distincion for you....especially from Chile.....and potted plants can have a history of being bombed by chemicals.....and I can only imagine what else if you know what I mean.....
Very beautiful clearly detailed photograph though....fun to look at when it opened up......interesting occurence.....cool find !
jajaja, just curiosity... m not eating it, just wondering if u can... ok, you always can, but if it doesn't make you sick
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: homusubi]
#5552813 - 04/24/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh dont listen to them EAT IT, whats the worst that could happen by eating an unidentified wild mushroom other than shitting your intestines and and puking up terrible things not to mention maybe dying at the same time.
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homusubi
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: phishhead]
#5553512 - 04/25/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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phishhead said: Oh dont listen to them EAT IT, whats the worst that could happen by eating an unidentified wild mushroom other than shitting your intestines and and puking up terrible things not to mention maybe dying at the same time.
was that sarcastic?
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Re: What is this mushroom?? [Re: shroomydan]
#5557236 - 04/26/06 12:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroomydan - "macrolepiota" is a genus of perasols, like lepiota. a 'sister' genus - as you suggested.
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Edited by mattso (04/26/06 12:51 AM)
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