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Offlinemonamine
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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5580379 - 05/02/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm never going to down a man for trying to better himself, but I think you need to take a long and brutality honest look at yourself and ask yourself why you feel the need to do so many drugs in the first place. Simply giving up drugs in and of itself won't do any good in the long run if you don't fix the underlying problems you have. Are you trying to escape negative/painful emotions,trying to just get another high,or what? Perhaps you are even self medicating an underlying psychiatric problem. I know it seem condradictory, and you'll have to answer this yourself, but if you have serious mental problems I don't think seeing a good doctor and getting some meds would be such a bad I idea. Yeah, you're trading one drug for another, but fucked up neurobioliogy isn't going to fix itself and this time you may be correcting something that was wrong in the first place instead of doing it in a roundabout way with whatever high you can get at the time or whatever.

Speaking from experience, I struggled with painkillers for a couple years. I never had I problem getting off them when I really wanted to,but I always returned to them sooner or later because I didn't do anything to fix the underlying problem, which was depression and anxiety more or less caused by a brain that was genetically (runs in my family) out of wack. I was self medicating. I used them mostly for panic attacks,but I was also over compensating and trying to get as high as possible in the process.
So to make a long story short I went to a psychiatrist (actually a couple because to be honest some of them flat out suck) and went on antidepressants. Not that they were a magical cure or anything, but I wasn't having as many nasty panic attacks and nasty obcessive thoughts anymore. It took some hard work and the support of those around me, but it allowed my to get off them for good (at least I hope,so far,so good).

I'm not suggesting you run out there and start popping Zolofts, because that might not even be the problem, and like I said you'll have to answer that one yourself, but keep that as an option.
Don't just stop using drugs and hope everything will be honkey dorey, because it won't(you might even just end up trading one addiction for another). Find the real causes of your problems and try to deal with them and make some serious lifestyle changes. If you do that you might not even feel the need to chase that high anyway.

Good luck man. Take a long hard look at yourself and do what you need to do. It won't be easy, but with some elbow grease things may work themselves out. :smile:


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OfflineDreamer987
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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: leery11]
    #5722426 - 06/07/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So far so good. I accidentally took a hit of weed without realizing what i was doing, but thats no big deal.
I tried the big H. Wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
Oh, and i quit smoking ciggs!


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5722952 - 06/07/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nice man. did you try the big H after or before you said you quit on april 30th? good luck. glad to hear you stopped smoking cigs.


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5723022 - 06/07/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

After.
I put a Loophole in my contract, says i can try new things.


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5723065 - 06/07/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds like a good idea. nothing bad with trying something out while taking that break. as long as you don't get into it.

:goodluck:


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5860400 - 07/15/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well this thing is harder than anticipated. I fucked up, and did a bunch of coke last night, it was actually quite fun. Usually i don't enjoy the stuff to much, but it was nice. Oh, and i ate some xanax the other night to help go to sleep after an acid trip.
I am weak. My will power is so low. I mean, i feel good that i have used less, but the goal was 0 drugs for a year. I told everybody about my goal too, now i look like a flake. I was able to resist, but as the alcohol soaked into my blood, the temptation grew to great to ignore.


I don't feel good about this turn of events. I am picking my goal back up tho, and will try harder.


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Good for you [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5862468 - 07/15/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's a tough lesson when we learn that we are not in control of ourselves, when we find that we cannot match our actions to our professed intentions. But keep trying, keep pushing, improve yourself by discipline. If you ever faulter, the most important thing to do is to move back to the sraight path again. Keep coming back to the straight path and eventually you will straighten up, and it will be easy to stay that way. There are some other lifestyle changes you can make which will make it easier to stay sober and productive as well, such as going to bed and waking up earlier, exercising, meditating, etc, but they only work if you decide it's something you really want to do. Good for you for cleaning yourself up, and whatever you do, don't stop trying to stay sober! Humans are fallible, it's just a fact of life, what makes a man great is his grace in spite of his fallibility.


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Re: Good for you [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5862692 - 07/15/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Have you thought about maybe setting a shorter goal...maybe a month or two? It'll make it not seem so far away and unpleasant.

Or instead of allowing some exceptions, don't allow any?

If it makes you feel any better, my goal was to stop smoking for a month. I went two weeks without smoking at all. Then I smoked four times over the next three weeks. I feel I did very well even though I didn't completely accomplish my goal.

I learned the lesson I was wanting to learn though...I don't need it, I want it. And I even got to the point of not wanting it at all.

It's all about moderation and how you use it. I'm ready to start smoking again, but doubt I'll be a daily smoker like I was...then again, you never know.


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5865345 - 07/16/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Dreamer987 said:
Well this thing is harder than anticipated. I fucked up, and did a bunch of coke last night, it was actually quite fun. Usually i don't enjoy the stuff to much, but it was nice.  Oh, and i ate some xanax the other night to help go to sleep after an acid trip.
I am weak. My will power is so low. I mean, i feel good that i have used less, but the goal was 0 drugs for a year. I told everybody about my goal too, now i look like a flake. I was able to resist, but as the alcohol soaked into my blood, the temptation grew to great to ignore.


I don't feel good about this turn of events. I am picking my goal back up tho, and will try harder.




it is all in my sig. man, things are not so cut and dry, did you really expect to go from serious drug use to basically stopping use? feel the full range of emotions, anger, shame, ect. once you allow yourself to experience your "failure" take it for what it is worth and jump back on the horse :mushroom2: that is what life is about right?


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5867154 - 07/16/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Start with smaller goals that are easier to achieve. After 2 weeks of sobriety you can congratulate yourself and maybe go for a month or two, gradually increasing untill you get to a full year or until you are 21.

Also, I think there are too many loopholes in contract w/ yourself :laugh:. I recommend to not try new drugs while you're on your break and to drink in moderation... there's no reason to get faded just so you can be social. If you must get drunk to talk to people then ya probably need help.

Good luck man


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Parabolalala]
    #5879560 - 07/19/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I give up. I'm not going to set goals i can't keep. This time has helped me practice moderation, and i'm going to keep doing just that.


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Re: Considering an extended brake from "drugs" [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5882335 - 07/20/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, forget it dude.  You're not ready yet.  When you really want to stop living your life around different highs, it will be easy to stop.  Moderation is of course, good, but most "moderation" is still a lifestyle of drug use.  And although you say now that the drugs aren't affecting you negatively, realize you're just a kid.  A decade down the road and things will be different.  Fuck, I feel like an old man saying that.  I'm 24 and can trace back where certain patterns of drug use/abuse were detrimental, and the repercussions continue to affect me to this day. Of course, every body and aggregate experience differs vastly.  You may be able to do as many drugs as often as you can stand and still not compromise yourself in any way (though it's not likely :wink:). Just take care of yourself, man.  If you feel like you probably shouldn't get high one night, then don't.


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Re: Good for you [Re: demiu5]
    #5883633 - 07/21/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

demius said:
Or instead of allowing some exceptions, don't allow any?





Yeah, that would be more like it.

Stop taking ANY DRUGS for a few days at least and see what happens.
Including cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, coke, heroin, xanax, LSD and E.


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Re: Good for you [Re: Anno]
    #5883667 - 07/21/06 05:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

obviusly you need a change in life style and self image... you like drugs and that's what defines you right now! so being drug free is like casting away who you are and being left with a big voide you can't fill...
it's not about addiction i'm guessing (or hoping anyway)

change your set/setting :tongue:
get some DIFFRENT goals maybe :shrug:
take up some OTHER hobby, work your ass off... you can still indulge once in a while but finding other things to enjoy is much more important then having fun with drugs!

there's all the time in the world to do drugs and far less time to grow as a person!
good luck :sun:


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