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KingSpade
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Salvia 6x first timer (trip report added)
#5537605 - 04/20/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well my 6x salvia extract finally arrived today, on 420! I've been reading on salvia for about a year but now that I have it in my possession i feel kind of nervous. Should I not smoke it when I'm nervous? Just wait until I am relaxed? Or will my experience still be the same once i hit the pipe? Thanks in advance and happy 420 all 
Edit: Below is a copy of my trip report
It was 3:00 PM today when I loaded up my bowl with the salvia 6x extract i had received on this fine 420 holiday. I took in a hit and held it until my exhale revealed no smoke. As I layed back i began to feel a little weird, looking around my dimly lit room.
This was not going to be enough! This is what i had heard in my head. I quickly loaded up another hit, thinking I didn't have much time. I breathe in the harsh smoke, setting down my pipe as I lay back on my bed.
I cant really say how the trip started, my memory is weak of the whole event. Before I knew it though, I was part of an extremely complex system of gears, like i was in some kind of bizarre factory. I found my hands straight up in the air as if i was turning a large gear, when i realized what i was doing i was shocked!
Still, I kept turning the gears, as I WAS a gear and there was nothing i could do to stop my hands from taking part in this! My room was looking extremely crazy, and as i glanced to my ceiling fan something odd happened.
It was like my legs were really long and liquefied and were running up into my dimmed light of the fan. I couldn't really tell if my legs were flowing up into the fan or if they were pouring down from the fan..maybe a combination of both..
I was hearing alot of voices, like alot of people screaming, but one voice stood out from the others. It was kind of a higher voice, coming from behind me to the right, and it was saying "He doesn't even know what hes doing!!" over and over again.
"Oh yes I do.." I thought to myself.. "I just smoked some salvia!" is the next thing that finally popped into my head. I jumped up and shut the lights off, stumbled/floated across my room and pulled the blinds shut. I then layed back down to attempt a "break through".
As I layed, my vision went back a little bit and viewed my body as a whole. I was in complete blackness and my body had a thick white outline to it. I was trying so hard to let go, and the further i let go, my body would begin turning from the white to green, filling in radiantly.
The green was a weird energy/spirit and I was doing by best to let it overcome me. I remember the voice continuing to speak to me but I found it hard to remember exactly what it was saying. Unfortunately I do not think I achieved my "break through" as my body never got completely covered with the green energy and I suddenly came off my trip.
Edited by KingSpade (04/21/06 07:33 PM)
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: KingSpade]
#5537684 - 04/20/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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your mindset prior to smoking probably won't matter so much.
I always get nervous before a salvia jounrey, yet I always come back together in one piece.
You sound prepared for it, so do it when the time feels right.
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KingSpade
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Well i just had my first experience and it was fuckin crazy. I can barely type this right now and i keep typing the wrong words and having to go back. I became part of a huge system of gears right inside my room and my job was to keep this one shit turning. I was helping the gears operate with my hands as i lay on the bed completely blown away. Really hard to describe... I'll give a trip report later tonight maybe
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: KingSpade]
#5538254 - 04/20/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats awesome. ive been thinking about another strong psychedellic, but i have a thing about handling long durations. for this reason acid is a no no for now and i have some anxiety about using mushrooms again. salvia really sounds like the ticket, look foward to a trip report or something
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Edited by freebass (04/20/06 04:07 PM)
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: freebass]
#5538393 - 04/20/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive been doing salvia now for 3 months or so, and I relay enjoy it every time. My last trip i smoked 20x out of a pipe and listened to "on the run" by pink Floyd and closed my eyes. I though i was sailing through the sky in a ship suspended in the air, flying through the sky. Its a great drug in moderation.
My fried on the other hand had a horrible experience, he though he merged with and into a soccer ball, and this was his only existence. Id recommend to every one to take a smaller dose first and step it up.
-Happy trippn'
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: BlindLemon]
#5540167 - 04/21/06 06:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd do it when I feel capable but none the less its going to do what salvia does and just remember that , I got 2lbs of 10x extract from ages ago still and I smoke it uncommonly, and mostly its when I feel like being very assertive--you know what I mean?
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i dont think there is any thing such as a bad trip, no matter what happens. its jsut how you react to it, i found out if i just let it be and not let me concious fight my subconcious mind then i will always enjoy it.
my 2nd time trying salvia(21x) i had a similar experience like your friend, merging with an object. i took a hit and each time i tried ot move i had shutter vision which made me feel like i kept having some weird ass instant deja-vu. after that i merged with my couch and felt like i existed in the universe as a couch and i was watching tv. when i snapped out of it i thought it was a wonderful trip, even though it doesnt sound too pleasing; just appreciate whatever visions you get.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: Achilles]
#5540300 - 04/21/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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There's such a thing known as "the bad trip," but its really all depending on your state of mind atm you take a substance. Mental issues that are more complicated usually take time to work out and drugs in association with such illnesses can cause a very stressed, paranoid, unwanted, or anxious (there could be different aspects of the bad trip but these have happened to me) mood during the trip even though you were prepared. Really a shroomerite said that its all about how you look at life and approach it (this is what i interpreted), and I forgot his name but people with severe anxiety really have to understand mentally in order to maintain themselves during such an event known as the "bad trip".
I recently, not long ago had an episode; I was feeling uneasy and incapable of understanding anything mentally and physical with myself, which was undoubtedly frightful to the extremes. This lasted over a week or more and was severe anxiety over illnesses or acquiring insanity because I felt as if I couldn't control my mental status and I had all these physical twitches or stuff that was once unnoticed or not bothered by started to erect itself and become apparent and that grew to a more worry then advanced towards anxiety, which gave me thoughts of liver, kidney, blood clogging, unnatural illnesses, fungi in the skin, heart exploding, and a sense of insanity which was what really freaked me out beyond anything else I encountered, and it was such an overwhelming thought--no feeling that had persisted for hours and to this day I dont understand what in hell it was that was so frighting. Also I to this day don't know exactly how or what had caused such episodes to occur so adruptly with such a powerful effect, but I had taken Tramadol before hand and I think the properties in Tramadol may have flipped a switch and caused me to panic; I had been off speed for 2-2.6 months, this could've caused it as well, and I had enourmous amounts of stress that week(s). Gradually I started to realize and not caring as much until I didn't care at all. So the "bad trip" is unavoidable at times when it makes itself known. It then depends on "you" whether or not you will cower or triumph over the incident. Just to let you know .
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Edited by Muppet69_420 (04/21/06 08:19 AM)
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I agree with Muppet, A bad trip for me is a very long prolonged time where I'm uncomfortable and don't feel safe during a trip. For some people merging with objects is very comfortable, for others its a horrible experience.
The last bad trip i had was on 300 morning glory seeds or LSA and it was fun when i was watching TV with my friend but he passed out and i tried to do the same; however when ever i tried to go to sleep I couldn't stop examining my self and my past relationships. Overall after the trip i was fine and tired but it wasn't a very good time.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: BlindLemon]
#5540656 - 04/21/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I smoked a bowl of some old salvia. I didn't really get an effects, probably because it wasn't fresh. But then about 2 hours after that I was lying in my bed, and I suddenly just got a rush of energy through me, that lasted for a few seconds. I have no idea what it was... but who knows!
I wanna order some salvia online though, I'm really interested to get the experiences others have gotten.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: ekornmeyer]
#5541166 - 04/21/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ekornmeyer said: I smoked a bowl of some old salvia. I didn't really get an effects, probably because it wasn't fresh. But then about 2 hours after that I was lying in my bed, and I suddenly just got a rush of energy through me, that lasted for a few seconds. I have no idea what it was... but who knows!
I wanna order some salvia online though, I'm really interested to get the experiences others have gotten.
Salvia's effects are either very abrupt--I mean could possibly scare the literal shit out of someone; this is all achieved mostly when smoke correctly, and smoking it takes some practice if not much at all because its methods are so utterly easy and basic and I mean it when I say that a preschooler is capable of successfully accomplishing such a task. Some individuals may have an uncanny natural resistance to chemicals or in this case "salvia" and so no effects are ever achieved at such low concentrations an/or such a low dosage. I'll comply this to you and reveal that by "no effects" I mean absolutely no effects/alterations/or placebo of any kind "nothing"... deh duh dah ! I've seen this happen with as much as 5x extract, but get this; with anything higher in concentration it was very obvious that my friends' (just 3)were capable of the casual effects (door mat) of salvia and eventually had experienced being engulfed in intense breakthroughs. A individual I once knew didn't get any effects until his 5th bong hit of 10x and he held the smoke in all five times with a big cloud to release, but until his 5th he had no apparent changes--come to think of it the extract might have been 5x. It usually takes just mere seconds and then it happens; an alteration stirs all about you. The first experience is usually the 1"door mat" experience of salvia, when it has no interruptions such as cross tolerance issues or personal interferences: a natural resistance towards the chemical, and there could be other possible interruptions I don't know about. Beyond/After the "door mat experience" is salvia's ('s she's that real! I swear in every experience a lady was present, and it had always whispered a gentle feeling of assurance that makes my prior assumption true in some sense ) (2)"household experience" where the complete experience is kept; it is where the lady salvia resides and is withheld from you until the time is right and (3) usually she wants you to come back another time till she gets to know you better *grrrrowl*, and in some cases she knows more about you than you do yourself. Smoke salvia more than once, twice, or even thrice+++ until you have a breakthrough experience and its better after you realized that (4)foliage is just to darn weak then you should approach 5x-10x and so forth until you find what your looking for. An extraction of existing leaf is possible, and if you spent money on just foliage then an (5)extraction will save you money if you have the equipment on hand otherwise you'll be spending more money on items.
-1: Breakthroughs Being Disrespected or just Bad Trips: frightful experiences, which in my research of the matter I found that sometimes these experiences provoke unwanted movement of the body or an odd sensation to want extreme strain on the body because of so much confusion or because you think and feel that you are not in your own body and this has a wide range of unique directions, which could make you a inanimate object, feel high above your body and looking down at your body from above, black out when overwhelmed by the breakthrough, feel as if your somewhere completely different and believe it.
1: Door Mat: I would describe the door mat experience as the basic effects of salvia. The effects mostly are tactical distortions, gravity which is called salvia gravity, perhaps some oev's and cevs, and what most call an uncomfortable feeling
2: Salvia's Household Experience:
3: Usually she wants you to come back another time till she gets to know you better *grrrrowl*: A Cross Tolerance Metaphor
4: Foliage: basically unfooled, dried salvia leaf; its the leaves from the plant; known to be a commonly weak smoke and a grip of foliage is needed to match a 5x-20x dose, which makes extractions more convenient.
5: Extraction: Fortifying the salvia leaf by evaporating substantially more chemicals onto a smaller portion of leaf to create a fortified leaf. Other methods that require more effort and time, give more concentrated end products and a chance of crystals, which are too high in salvia to be smoked.
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Jesus, I didn't realize how intense this is.
That seems strange that you talk about it as if... it was a being. That kinda creeps me out. oO
Is the lady nice?
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: ekornmeyer]
#5541946 - 04/21/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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In my first experience she wasn't too nice. At first she was not accepting of me and told me that I didn't know what I was doing. After that she started to seem to accept me, although my experience ended abruptly...
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: KingSpade]
#5541968 - 04/21/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't understand... do you actually see a lady? Or are we talking on the subconcious?
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: ekornmeyer]
#5541982 - 04/21/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well for me, I didn't actually see a lady, but rather felt her presence. Also if you read my trip report, during the end a green energy began to cover my body, which I had perceived as being female.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: KingSpade]
#5542110 - 04/21/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol salvia will do that to ya 
I wish I could find my gram of 10x.
As for bad trips. Think Dramamine, aftre coming off the most bizzare trip (Just cause of the people I reconnected with in detail while tripping (trhey didnt exist)) I tried to go alseep and I'd keep waking up to hallucinated sounds. Took me approx 5 hours to fall asleep after first putting my head down and that was about 7 hours from ingestion so 13 hours later I finally was able to crash.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: ezkiel]
#5542762 - 04/21/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Damn I was going to give it a second attempt tonight but if its gonna keep me awake all night I better not..
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: KingSpade]
#5543535 - 04/22/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Salvia dosent keep u awake; at least not for me. I take it some times before i go to sleep. I find the whole salvia gravity thing very relaxing.
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Re: Salvia 6x first timer [Re: BlindLemon]
#5544190 - 04/22/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i find that gravity thing very relaxing too. even though i was tripping pretty good, i felt relaxed even though i had no idea what was going on at one point. the only thing is that i must have woken up at least 2 or 3 times that night from extremly vivid(not neccesarily frightening) dreams. i actuallly find that even when i smoke a large amount of weed b4 bed/i get very vivid dreams.
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