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Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA
    #5537375 - 04/20/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I was just outside having a cigarette and noticed some very peculiar (spelling?) mushrooms growing in our ash-tray things.

They sort of look like what I imagine morels do, but as I'm not expert I'll let you guys take a shot at it.

Habitat: Sand filled water collection area, shady and protected from elements, in the San Jose valley area of Northern California. Weather has been sunny the past few days (2) but before that lots of rain, with possible nightly sprinkles recently.

Gills: Hard to say? I'm not sure what counts as a gill here, the divets are a darker shade of yellow/tan than the ridges

Stems: Not completely circular, more lumpy and unshapen than with other common mushrooms, somewhat darker, almost a light brown, than the rest of the fruiting body

Spore Print: Unsure of how to obtain a spore print from this type of mushroom, I'd be happy to if someone could point in the direction of how

Bruising: Seems to bruise a brown/rust color (if it is bruising at all)

Scent: No noticeable scent but my nose is rather clogged at the moment

And I don't recall them being there last night/yesterday, although chances are I just overlooked them. As they say, pictures are worth a thousand words:





Nothing too serious, I'm not planning on eating them or anything, just curious as to what species they are. Thanks, and be gentle, this is my first ID request : ) I'm trying not to look too much like a noob at this

Oh, and in real life they appear a lighter color than in the pictures, but only slightly


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537517 - 04/20/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Upon further research they do very closely resemble a morel, specifically the Californian Yellow variety, can anyone confirm this?

I'm excited


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537530 - 04/20/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They are definitely morels. They look like the "landscaping morels" people find on the west coast early in the season.


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537537 - 04/20/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nice pics......and your assumtion is right on.......MORELS!!!.......and typical habitat for that species.......malls planters, buisness office building planters, wood chips, sand, previously landscped, etc., can occur year round with irrigation...........Morchella deliciosa is the latin name.....
EDIT: I see two replies in the short time I was typing (slooooooowwwwwly I type)..........good call NYCO
EDIT: Morels love burnt areas.....maybe the ashes fool em.....(joke)


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537547 - 04/20/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

EAT THEM!
oh wait... maybe you should wash them first if they were growing alongside cigarette butts.

Good guess!  They are indeed Morchella deliciosa
As the name entails, they are delicious!  If you don't want them, give them to someone who likes to cook.  I'm a chef and I'd harrass you for them if I lived closer  :wink:


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537604 - 04/20/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks guys!

I would love to eat them, but if you knew what has happened in those basin you would not even consider it either :crazy:

It's on a college campus, so vomit and cigarette butts are a given, and who knows what else.

Quite a shame


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537672 - 04/20/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great!!  I'll use sand, cigarette butts and vomit for my next substrate!!!  :wink:


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5537701 - 04/20/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nice find :thumbup:

Maybe you will be able to notice them more easily in the future. Hopefully in cleaner spots!
I probably wouldn't eat anything out of that either.. public ash tray, who knows what kind of things have gone in there. :crazy:


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: eris]
    #5538769 - 04/20/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I've seen those blond morels in landscaping in Oakland and Richmond, But all the ones I've seen smelled bad. I think they were too old.

This seems to be a relatively new thing with Bay Area landscaping morels, as opposed to normal where they are found in the Sierras in fire burn areas. Is that right?

I've never noticed the landscaping ones before last year. Didn't really look to hard tho.

Also, I was once told by a commercial grower that alot of edibles found in certain chips, like eucalyptus, were not really good to eat because of some kind of reaction with the substrate. I think the example was Boletes in eucalyptus chip, eucalytpus groves (they might give you a stomach ache)

Definately not true for cyans tho. Cyans are fine out of eucalytpus


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: auweia]
    #5539473 - 04/20/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i don't think those are morchella deliciosa. that species of morel are typically indigenous to the Midwest and the southern united states. your best bet of identification would be morchella rufobrunnea. recently described by Gaston Guzman. this morels range is along the west coast into Mexico. recent DNA sequencing shows that morchella rufobrunnea is a distinct species from esculenta and deliciosa.


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #26468506 - 02/04/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm in san jo ,I am getting old and just want to blast off one or two more times down shroom lane, if anyone can help contact me we'll talk. I'm clueless here.this sight is alot to take in.any way thanks. Big d.


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: Struckfire]
    #26468620 - 02/04/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Struckfire said:
I'm in san jo ,I am getting old and just want to blast off one or two more times down shroom lane, if anyone can help contact me we'll talk. I'm clueless here.this sight is alot to take in.any way thanks. Big d.




First of all, welcome to the Shroomery. :cheers:

Secondly, this forum is predominantly for mushroom hunters and provides help with identification of wild mushrooms.
If you have found something you for instance suspect to be either edible or hallucinogenic, please post pictures of your
finds and make an identification request. There are plenty of knowledgeable people here ready to help you out in that case.

If you simply are looking for somewhere to procure mushrooms, this is not the site to do so, either in open discussion
or via private messaging. If this site was used for dealing in illegal substances, it wouldn't be online for very long.

Third, this thread is 13 years old and few of the posters have been active in recent times.


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26468966 - 02/04/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I recommend you visit our cultivation forum, it's super easy to grow your own.  research the pf tek.  It's safer to grow your own within a few weeks than asking strangers on the web. spores are pretty easy to obtain and everything else you need can be bought at Walmart or something similar.

you can also search landscaping with woodchips in the bay area to find Psilocybe cyanescens and Psilocybe allenii,  will be happy to help you identify your mushrooms.

welcome to shroomery.

edit: lots of us old timers here, so hang out and get to know some people,  spores are traded openly, but unfortunately you are in a state that bans spores, but that doesn't mean you can't get them.


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Re: Mushroom ID, Possible Morel- San Jose, CA, USA [Re: asci]
    #26470783 - 02/05/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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asci said:
i don't think those are morchella deliciosa. that species of morel are typically indigenous to the Midwest and the southern united states. your best bet of identification would be morchella rufobrunnea. recently described by Gaston Guzman. this morels range is along the west coast into Mexico. recent DNA sequencing shows that morchella rufobrunnea is a distinct species from esculenta and deliciosa.





I agree with Morchella rufobrunnea.    In 2006 when you posted that the Morchella deliciosa from the midwest wasn't named yet, now it's Morchella americana.  Morchella ulmaria also grows in the same habitat and looks the same macroscopically and microscopically, but is very rare.


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