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    #5536155 - 04/20/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5536209 - 04/20/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

are you doing those in rocks glasses? as far as the wheat flour is concerned, i cant comment except that every grocery store has brown rice, and if you dont have a blender or coffee grinder to make it flourish then goodwill or other such store is your spot. honestly, since youve already done the wheat, let them go and let us know what happens, but go get some brown rice and grind it up!


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    #5536216 - 04/20/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5536242 - 04/20/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The one on the far left has water collecting on the bottom, too moist. And yea, it probably killed the spores. Sorry bro, plan it more next time and good luck. But you'll see what happens.


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    #5536257 - 04/20/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5536273 - 04/20/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if you have a wal-mart nearby they will have them, usually all year long. Thats always where I get mine from. I dont know if this helps because i have no idea what the PNW area is, but if it's in the states you should be able to find a wal-mart.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: StainBlue]
    #5536842 - 04/20/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

PNW= pacific north west, i believe.

I wouldn't give up on those jars just yet (well maybe you should get rid of the overly wet one) cause the stuff you used, wheat, is a grain just like any other grains ppl use (rye, popcorn, WBS...). I think you can get anything which is organic and contains starch to colonize.

Just yeasterday I was reading through a growlog of a guy who boiled some pasta, loaded it into his jars and inoculated them. Believe it or not, they colonized. Go check that out in the growlog forum its pretty interesting and might give you some inspiration.


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    #5537838 - 04/20/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5537858 - 04/20/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Buy a PC

Besides that Good Luck!


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5537860 - 04/20/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yer good, those jars work just as well as wide mouth... it doesn't matter.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: creamcorn]
    #5537865 - 04/20/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

oh and PS, you're gonna want to wait a hell of a lot more than 2 hours to inject.

do not try to rush cooling. you might crack your jars. you might suck in contaminated air as the air inside contracts quickly. you'll probably kill your spores.

best to cook them up, leave them in the pot overnight and shoot 'em up tomorrow. try and save a few hours here = waste days or weeks in the long run on failed jars. if you must, give them at least 6hr.


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    #5537883 - 04/20/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5537976 - 04/20/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

werdnaeroom8 said:
damn thats a dope piece in your sig must taking smoking to all new levels.




I wish that was mine!!!  I met these 2 guys at the first Bonnaroo, they gave me their name and shit but I have since lost it.  Wish I could remember so I could get some sic glass!  But for now I have to settle w/ my buddies blowing skills(glass you pervs :wink:)


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5537981 - 04/20/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

id keep the lid on. you want the jars to be as CLEAN as possible, leave the lid on so nothing falls in there.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5538013 - 04/20/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the only way to speed things up is to keep them in the dark and at a stable constant temp, around 84 is pretty much ideal.  i know people say light doesn't matter at this stage, but it seems to me like the less i peek and keep them dark, the quicker they go (although it could be in my head...the longer between peeking obviously the more its going to grow :-))  if you leave your foil on, or taped your holes, you can take that off so the holes are exposed once they got nice sized white patches in them.  (with the dry layer of verm you can take it off even sooner, but it doesn't really help and slightly increases your contam risk.)  when they're close to 80% you can flip them upside down to help finish it off.  other than that, patience is your best tool.  :thumbup:


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    #5538015 - 04/20/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5538022 - 04/20/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

how old are you man? just out of curiosity.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5538031 - 04/20/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you're sterile yourself?  might wanna get that checked out if you plan on having kids  :cool2:

but really, the pf tek is designed to make sterile innoculations almost fool proof.  the more you do the better, but i've seen 100% success with a good hand washing, cleaning the work surface well, stopping any fans/air conditioner etc, spray a little oust into the air in the area, flame sterilizing the needle only once at the beginning and alcohol swabbing between jars, and moving quick to keep your holes and needle exposed for as little time as possible.  you only need to go to extremes like glove boxes or flow hoods when you have large surfaces exposed, like agar plates, handling opened spore prints, etc.


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    #5538040 - 04/20/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5538043 - 04/20/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I thought B+ was shity when I did cakes but then B+ did this with poo



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    #5538066 - 04/20/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5538096 - 04/20/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

cool, same here. I just started my first grow about two days ago. I got some zip lock bags and made a polyfill whole in the middle of em. and used birdseed. Im just waiting to see em start growing.

good lcuk.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: inoculatedGreif]
    #5539094 - 04/20/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Looks good man, I'm right there with ya, newbie here, just started my B+ the other day. Definately get a PC. They're pretty cool, I love mine.

I noticed it looks like you have the 1 pint jars. That's what I got by accident. I only filled mine half way when I found out I screwed up, so I guess I can't flip them upside down now.

Besides taking a little longer to colonize, are there any other problems filling a 1 pint jar all the way?


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5539698 - 04/20/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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werdnaeroom8 said:Well this is my plan.
I dont have disinfectant spray but i have febreeze lol. Since I dont have alcohol swabs, should I just flame sterlize the needle with a lighter everytime i switch jars? or Everytime I switch holes in the jar since you inject 4 of em and the needle is exposed too air for a lil bit everytime.



Febreeze will not do anything for you. Don't bother with it.

As for disenfecting the needle, I would strongly push for you to find some alcohol solution and some cotton balls. You need something to cool the needle down and wipe off any black deposits that the lighter might leave on the needle itself. I wouldn't risk the process that you're suggesting. That $1 bottle of alcohol could save you from contams in all eight jars. It's just a silly risk to take.

Judging from the picture, I'm guessing your living at home. That's a lot of risk if your parents aren't aware of your grow. Be smart about your situation and good luck.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: TheFish]
    #5539759 - 04/21/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You're going to inject with a red hole needle? If you don't have Isopropl then atleast cool the needle with H2O.


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    #5539911 - 04/21/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540007 - 04/21/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, It would have been better to fill them all the way...

You can by 91% Rubbing Alcohol at any drug store or grocery store, convenience mart, piratically anywhere. While you are there, buy a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide as well (h2O2). It is something you will find your self using often enough. Also, buy some oust or Lysol spray to disinfect your work area. Read Read Read With That, Trial and Error, you'll figure all this stuff out pretty quick!

Also, someone commented earlier about whether or not you are in fact doing this in your parents house (Which by the looks of the pictures, you are) and if they know or not. If they do NOT know and you Don't plan on telling them, I would highly advise against doing it with out their knowledge. You have to potential of landing you and your parents in a lot of trouble...

Best of Luck to you on your first gorw man!


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    #5540070 - 04/21/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540096 - 04/21/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

im a newb at this stuff but im pretty sure if the authorities find out your growing a certain type of shroom (the kind you trip off) you can get your ass thrown in the clink and trust me its no fun. keep silent and be safe.


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    #5540205 - 04/21/06 06:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540213 - 04/21/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it is NOT legal to grow magic mushrooms where you live
or anywhere in the USA for that matter.
spores do not contain any 'magic' and so are legal in most states.
shrooms do contain 'magic' and are illegal by both
federal and state statute.
you can get many years in prison for cultivation.
this ain't no fucking joke, no game.
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    #5540218 - 04/21/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540492 - 04/21/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That turned over lamp is just asking for a fire.


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    #5540665 - 04/21/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540684 - 04/21/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

about your foil question, keep it on tight until they're half way through then you can take it off (or even just loosening it and keeping it on as a dust cover is a good idea too).

and get that damn light off the box. its not a matter of trusting you, its a matter of not trusting very hot things in close vicinity of easily burned things. i dont care how rich your parents are, they're not going to appreciate you burning the houes down. you're not just putting yourself at risk but all of us as well. every time somebody screws up out of stupidity it makes headlines and will certainly draw the worst kind of attention to a community like this. all it takes is for it to slip when you're not around and land on that box and you've got flames. its probably doing you not much more good than room temp anyway, i dont see that as providing very uniform warmth. get your incubator going and do it right.


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    #5540809 - 04/21/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Fire Hazard


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    #5540819 - 04/21/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5540868 - 04/21/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You really should have used Rubbing Alcohol to swab your needles. Lysol will cause mutations and the like when mycelium (or your Substrate) is exposed to it. Your grow should still go fine, but you might end up with some crazy looking mushrooms...

Buy Rubbing Alcohol and Hydrogen Peroxide, they are like less then a dollar a piece! Someone back me up on this

and PS, I doubt your parents are that dumb that you could pull the "its for school" line, especially if they are "so rich". It takes brains to make good money. I hope for your sake that they don't find this project of yours


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    #5540969 - 04/21/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5541086 - 04/21/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

god bless amerika

and remember what some of these people said dont be a fucking dumbass about this. tell your friends all this shit failed and that its not gana work. and that you may try again in a few months or something.

20 years is a long time.


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    #5541103 - 04/21/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5542767 - 04/21/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Abort mission.

Remember that you're parents were your age...

...in the late sixties.

:RIP Jerry:


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: TheFish]
    #5542964 - 04/22/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you are really in no state of mind to continue this grow. you should read up on the law and safety section of this site. learn about the chemistry of mushrooms and some basic mycology. consider critically thinking about the experience of P. mushrooms would help, maybe not just as getting high. this is not horticulture, mushrooms are not plants.

you should really stop this grow and learn more about what you are doing and why you are doing it before you begin again.

good luck with everything, please be safe and think this over.

oh yes, what are you planning on doing with a cat litter box full of warm water? learn about a Tub in Tub method or if the temp is around 75-85 i would suggest you keep it simple and just use a small Styrofoam cooler(or something of that matter) to incubate them in.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: LochRaven]
    #5543233 - 04/22/06 06:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Keep reading. Theres a lot of helpful imformatio about how to keep things SAFE!
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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5543298 - 04/22/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

im not sure what you have going on there, it looks like a series of firehazards..and i do believe that fishtank heater needs another tub on top of it. my advice is to stop right now. put everything away, and wait till you have your own place. you have no control on who comes in and out of the house and if you get caught doing what your doing your facing som bang me in the ass prison. and dont get cocky thinking it cant happen because if you dont take every precaution in more than likely WILL happen.

im not trying to be a dick, just watchin out for you man. if you play with fire your gonna get burned. Growing in someone elses house is the hottest fire of all.

edit**telling cops its edible mushrooms is just going to make them laugh, which is good to relieve tension while your getting arrested but wont do much good past that. growing mushrooms is equal to growing weed in the USA


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: futurewolf42o]
    #5543315 - 04/22/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i think your completely stupid for even attempting to grow with such products in your household.

you still live with your parents, thats a big trule of thumb - to not grow with your parents in your house. they dont have no idea what the fuck your doing and your putting yourself and your parents in a bad situation.

i would never want my rents knowing wtf i was doing if i was growing drugs, just a BIG hole thats open and plus they run your shit man....They are your parents.

But then again im just a 21 year old who is successful.
Im sure a 18 year old knows better.


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5543453 - 04/22/06 09:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hmmmm, that's not always the case though. I'm 18 and live with my parents but they knowingly let me grow weed and shrooms (although they'd rather I didn't use the stuff :P )

I didn't actually read the whole thread, which I think I'll do right now, but just cause he lives with his parents doesn't mean he shouldn't be growing. Unless he's doing it without them knowing abt it....cause that would just be uncool.

edit: ok I just read the whole thread, seems I even posted somehwere on the first page. Musta been too stoned to remember that it was this thread...Anyways, so ok his parents don't know. Granted its uncool and not the smartest idea ever, but you guys need to chill out and get off his back. I can totally understand what situation he's in when you want to get a project started and you HAVE already started and put quite a bit of money into getting it running. I agree you should probably inform your parents that your doing this, but in the end you guys...even if your just giving some responsible advice and trying to save him a (possible) lot of trouble in the future, I get the feeling he really want to grow these things and in the end its his life. SO let him grow them I say because every person is guilty of doing some questionably stupid things in their lives. I know i am, but thats cool you know. Live and learn I say...


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    #5544001 - 04/22/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



Edited by werdnaeroom8 (04/22/06 01:39 PM)


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    #5544080 - 04/22/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



Edited by werdnaeroom8 (04/22/06 01:10 PM)


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5544371 - 04/22/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that second picture looks better there i think people were assuming you just dropped jars into the bottom tub of water :-)

watch out with that aquarium heater i got the same one and its got a protection on it - if it goes over 85 it turns off, and its a bitch to get it to ever turn back on again!  keep it a notch or two down from the highest setting if its not already.  should you ever have to refill the water in the bottom tub because of evaporation, use cold water and let it warm back up - i tried using warm water figuring i'd keep the temps up, but it must have been too warm and kicked off the protection in the heater and i couldn't get the damn thing to turn back on for 3 days, constantly jiggling it around...

otherwise lookin good, a little box with a blanket over it is a lot more discrete (not to mention safe) than trying to heat a box with a lamp  :thumbup:

and to the people bashing coz you're doin it in your parents house, if you're 18 (and i believe you said you were) then you're fully responsible for your actions, and not your parents... so all those tired arguments that you'll get your parents in trouble aren't really of concern here...


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    #5558188 - 04/26/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



Edited by werdnaeroom8 (04/26/06 11:11 AM)


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Re: Started New Grow B+ PF TEK PICTURES [Re: ]
    #5558335 - 04/26/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I want to grow shroomz too.
I don't have a pressure cooker. Is that bad ?
I have some vermiculite and brown rice... just need few jars.
What I need now is some spore syringes... wheres the best place to get some since I live in Canada ?


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