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jonnyjonjonjon
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Shrooms Good, Weed Bad?
#5533370 - 04/19/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Comparing myself to nearly all my friends im a freak on this matter. Seeing as so many people on this website there has to be at least one person out there that handles drugs the same way.
I've been smoking weed since I was 12 and ever since I've started it I've noticed many bad sides to it. Regardless of all the bad sides to it I had thought weed was the best drug known to man up until I tried shrooms.
Nowadays its like shrooms and weed are polar opposites. Heres some comparisons.
When I smoke ganja I lose all my energy and I get so lazy all I want to do is sit down and fall asleep. On the other hand on shrooms I'm bursting with energy and cant stand the thought of sitting down.
When I smoke maryjane Im overcome with fear for absolutely no reason at all. I get scared of the stupidest little things such as thinking about ghosts when im lying in bed at night. Shrooms on the other hand I dont even know the meaning of fear. Lots of times when im in situations where I really should be scared the fear just doesnt come to me.
With weed I start thinking really negatively and take a dark and dull view of the world. Shrooms make me think positively and give me the ambition to make things more positive.
On weed I have ridiculously low self confidence. It gets to the point where I cant even talk to people around me because I get scared im going to sound stupid or something like that. On shrooms I have freakishly high self confidence. Its like im a different person. I do things I never had the balls to do when im sober.
After smoking a joint my brain gets clouded up and I can hardly put sentences together or think straight. On shrooms I seem to think ten times clearer and faster and people have been telling me I appear to be way smarter than usual when on them.
Weed makes me dull and boring and unable to laugh at jokes never mind make them up. On shrooms everything is unbelievably funny and every joke I crack is hilarious. Even sober people say the same.
With weed I have a really hard time expressing my views of other people and alot of the time they get the wrong idea and think im disrespecting them. On shrooms I let everyone know exactly what I think of them so I usually gain respect because of it.
Now the thing I find weird about this is alot of my friends are the complete opposite. Weed brightens them up and gives them spirit while shrooms freak them out and put them on a bad trip.
Can anyone else here relate to what i'm saying. I suppose I can be happy shrooms go well with my state of mind but maryjane has always been my favorite drug and it breaks my heart it has such negative effects on me. On shrooms im the life of the party but with ganja I just go all antisocial and get nervous because theres lots of people around me.
Both my brothers quit smoking weed because it has similar negative effects on them but im not a man to just quit becuase of some sideeffects. I've been trying for two years to make the maryjane go well with my mind I think im getting somewhere but theres no doubt that the negative aspects are still there. Should I just quit smoking weed or should I keep trying to overcoming the negative effects?
-------------------- Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.
Edited by jonnyjonjonjon (04/19/06 11:51 AM)
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jonnyjonjonjon
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Another interesting thing Ive noticed is how shrooms and weed interact with each other. 90% of the time the shrooms overpower the weed and no negative weed aspects come true but I notice when I smoke weed when coming down off shrooms the weed takes over. Im overcome with fear and all that bullshit that comes with the weed.
Last weekend I had a pretty wierd experience. I was on shrooms and I was having a pretty good trip but it was starting to wear off so I smoked a joint of Jack Herer. I saw myself slowly losing brain power and self confidence. I started getting a vision of this demon face staring at me. Pretty odd shit to say the least.
-------------------- Mother goose said to the swan "Is that PCP your cooking?" and the swan replied "Yes, yes it is.
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SmokenBabyJesus
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I can get like that on weed but only on certain types, lately I have been smoking and it keeps me awake.... it also makes me introspect alot which seems to be what your doing...now shrooms I seem to be the same as you on them... but at time it can get heavy.. anyway.... Om Shiva Shankara Hari Hari Ganja. Om Shiva Shankara Hari Hari Ganja. Om Shiva Shankara Hari Hari Ganja. repeat that a few times before you smoke next time. and also take some time to notice the origin of the fears.. Peace and Stuff
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LSD_rules
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the past few times ive shroomed, ive smoked some weed as well. The come up is kinda dull but the peak is intense and while im coming down from the shrooms, the weed makes the effects of the shrooms come back. I've always had a positive experience when mixing these 2 drugs together...but that's just my experience.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: LSD_rules]
#5533451 - 04/19/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooming and smoking weed for me only makes it 100 times better, it makes it so nice and just puts me in the best mood ever. i have only had 1 bad trip and it was the one time i had no weed. weed is just a sure way for me to have security during a trip. but i have friends who dont like it on the trip because it creates the things that it takes away from me. but everyone is diff.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: LSD_rules]
#5533467 - 04/19/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've only done shrooms once, so I can't really comment on the 'shrooms good, weed bad' thing (although my shroom trip was fantastic, totally blowing away pot in every aspect) but I was actually thinking about making a topic about pot being a sort of negative drug: I mean, it can be an adventure, but one of pot's main affects is paranoia (and sometimes just blatant fear)... something that is uncomfortable to say the least. I never really had too much trouble with marijuana, besides the couple of times i've smoked TOO much and freaked. But trying shrooms really opened my eyes as to how pot really induces a sort of copable bad trip in me usually.
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AlwaysFlowin
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"Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? "
If you think of them as such- yes.
You started smoking when you were 12? Maybe you need to clear your head of substances/weed for a while so that you have no preconceived notions as to what the weed will do to you. If you go into smoking every time telling yourself that weed is going to ruin your social interactions and lower your self esteem- well then it will.
I can guarantee you if you tell yourself shrooms are equally negative, you'll start having far less productive and powerful trips.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
#5533564 - 04/19/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Weed and shrooms are just tools, just like any other drug is. With a saw and hammer you could build something beautiful...or you could cut off your arm and smash your genitals to goo. It's your choice what you do with your tools.
I smoke a lot of weed because I enjoy the effects. The only thing I ever really get paranoid about is cops, and that never really gets too bad. AlwaysFlowin gave some good advice on the subject. If you've been smoking since you were 12 with no breaks (I'm assuming your 18+ at this point, seeing as you are on these boards) that means you've never really experienced yourself as yourself, and the change from child to adult could have been significantly blurred for you. If you start to get negative effects from a drug then back off for awhile and get yourself centered on what you intend to do with your tools.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: ezsefix]
#5533673 - 04/19/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yah! marijuana and mushrooms are really old good friends, don't forget that! usually a person thats friends with two people, those two others can easily be friends, unless there is a grudge. Those grudges usaulyl go way back and stay put coz people are stubborn. Well open your mind and middle man the friendship back, it all up to you.
make yourself! you control transmissions!
Good luck broham
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: swampthing]
#5533704 - 04/19/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shrooms kick weeds ass
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: swampthing]
#5533760 - 04/19/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry, can't relate to you at all... Weed makes me just completely chilled out. I open up more to conversation, and my creativity just explodes. I come up with some of the most insane ideas and concepts. It just generally helps me express what usually goes on in my head and I become a really good person to be around. Shrooms are a little different. I still get the explosion of creativity and everything. It's just such an intense experience mentally that there's absolutely no way I can express what I'm thinking. Words just don't feel necessary and thinking becomes superior to speaking and I keep quiet for most of the trip. Of course this doesn't ALWAYS happen. When I am talkative though people sometimes sense a bit of hostility in some of the things I say to them. I might come off a little too strong when making a sarcastic comment about something they've done or something. But according to people I've been around who were tripping (or that I was tripping with) almost everything that comes out of my mouth is the funniest thing they've ever heard.
I wouldn't say I necessarily preffer weed or shrooms. Weed's an easier experience and is just something that you can smoke, hang out, and just have a good time. Shrooms always feel like more of a significant experience and therefore I'd rather do them alone (although the opportunity never really arrises unfortunately so I at least try to limit it to just 1 other person).
While the paranoia of cops does kick in every now and then with weed it's pretty mild and doesn't even come close to the anxiety I've felt on shrooms. At the same time I've spent nights high curled up on my bed covered in a damp towel just waiting for it to end. It all just really depends on where you allow your mind to take you. Your experience can be pretty much set before you've even dosed just by your opinions of the drug in question...
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ExplosiveMango
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The reason weed and shrooms seem like such polar opposites in your mind... is because you cast them into the role of polar opposition in your mind.
There are lots of things less like shrooms than weed... caffeine, for example.
The fact that drugs put you in such reliable places in your mind makes them very easy to attach to particular feelings. Perhaps your 'life in the mindset of pot' has been less fulfilling than you 'life of the mindset of shrooms' and thus you project this expectation into subsequent drug uses.
Oversimplifying either drug to the point of being 'negative' or 'positive' may make it hard to rewire your brain into thinking differently... because these roles are so absolute... perhaps breaking down the way you feel about pot and focusing on particular instances that make you feel positive will help dissolve the all encompassing view of the drug as negative.
(You could break down yours shrooms experiences and pick up lots of negatives to dwell on also if you wanted..!)
You should definitely put alot of thought into what your actual goals are in terms of your relationship with the drug. Negative feelings may be side effects of the drug, or they may be effects of the drug in combination with your environment or self image. Do you just want the negative feelings to go away? Or do you want to better understand them? (or some combination of the two)
I suggest smoking pot in some unusual settings, to get a new viewpoint... break you out of any pot-rut you might be in. If you usually smoke in a basement... go smoke at a playground on a nice day. If you're a daily smoker, take 2 weeks off and then have some brownies. If you only smoke joints, go buy a bong.
You get the idea.
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kaniz
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I find weed makes me relaxed, more social, etc. I never get paranoid while on weed (or any drug really). I've walked down major streets in Toronto, joint in hand puffing away while walking home from the club and not a care in the world. Spark up a joint on the dancefloor -- and I dont care.
Maybe weed makes you paranoid because you started smoking when you were 12 and were always afraid about getting caught/in shit - and that is something that has carried with you since?
*shrug*
Weed makes me relaxed, care free, chill, more sociable and at times - more energetic (depending on the type of weed, how much I smoke, and the setting).
Must say, even when I've been so ripped that I couldnt move, I've never been paranoid or anxious on weed.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: kaniz]
#5534129 - 04/19/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think neither, Shrooms and bud go hand & hand together. Either to start off a magnificant trip with a nice blunt or at the peak of your trip ripping the bong.
Ever look at burning buds (like in a bowl) while boomin? It's probably one of the prettiest things, the way it burns its as if the buds are alive.
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yall postin' in a troll thread
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I would have to say the effects of marijuana and shrooms are the other way around for me. weed seems like an upper, gets me happy and laughing yet calm. On shrooms I tend to dwell on my past or fucked up shit that is currently going on, it often puts me into a deppressing trip when I start thinking so negative so I smoke some chron don to relax and enjoy myself.
so I believe the effects vary depending on the individual
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I've never had paranoia on any drug. I don't understand how you can be paranoid/scared without valid reason to be. i.e. Once my friend was really high and heard a helicopter got scared and ran like hell. That doesn't make sense. But when you find out you might get caught by cops or rents or something then paranoia/fear makes sense.
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Edited by libertyshroom (12/15/08 08:13 PM)
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Quote:
libertyshroom said: I've never had paranoia on any drug. I don't understand how you can be paranoid/scared without valid reason to be. i.e. Once my friend was really high and heard a helicopter got scared and ran like hell. That doesn't make sense. But when you find out you might get caught by cops or rents or something then paranoia/fear makes sense.
Im a paranoid motherfucker period, if anything I think a bowl or two calms me down. You may call it being dependant, but in order to get to sleep right away I need to smoke a bowl to calm my racing mind.
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Edited by Theylikethatshit (12/15/08 08:21 PM)
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yageman
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shrooms good, weed good.
They are different and both good for different things, and some of the same things.
They both can be bad in ways too.
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Re: Shrooms Good, Weed Bad? [Re: yageman]
#9439958 - 12/15/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am currently chokin to death from hitting the bong 7 or 8 tims a day. I can not stop coughing and it feels like I can not get my chest cleared. Keep in mind I've been doing this daily for couple years now and am tossing with the idea of stopping all together for awhile. I have been tryin to cut back and not smoke so much during the day, but it is not easy. I crave the effects of the smoke and am always so thankful when I finally give in with the sun, but I really don't feel well. My lungs feel wrecked. Weed and shrooms are like bikes and cars, just because they can both be used for similar and multiple things, essentailly, they are nothing alike.
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