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InvisibleneoNihlist
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Help Pan Subbs.
    #553230 - 02/16/02 02:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I live around the eugene corvallis area and I was planning on hunting for Panaeolus Subbalteatus are they in season now?
I read that they grow like weeds in the right habitat so if I look at just about any rotting hay stack will I most likely find them?


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: neoNihlist]
    #553333 - 02/16/02 06:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I live in Corvallis. I think they will be comming in soon!

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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: Joshua]
    #553399 - 02/16/02 10:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Read my paper "Close Encounters of the Panaeolus Kind for exact locations in the Eugene/Willamette Valley region of Highway 99 West.

mj

There season is sutrely now upon us or getting close to it.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #553471 - 02/16/02 12:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Is the paper posted on your site?

How about a link.

Thanks,
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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: Joshua]
    #553599 - 02/16/02 03:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: neoNihlist]
    #560194 - 02/22/02 11:01 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm in same area, have been picking these for many years. Decomposing hay/ straw is the habitat to look, but it's a bit early yet. Depending on rain & temperatures there might be a few in late March/ early April but they really don't start to flush heavy until May. In good wet years I've found them thru June up into early July.

But now is the time to drive around the back farm roads & scope out likely sites. Look for older uncovered haystacks, preferably on land where you won't have to trespass to get to them.

Also look for construction sites where hay bales are used for erosion control. These bales will often have mushrooms.

Anyway, here's hoping for a good rainy Spring. Last year sucked!


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: Woodsman]
    #560465 - 02/23/02 09:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I was trying to tell a few folks in another Pan subb thread that subbs really don't start until late march early april. They won't fruit in cold weather, they are a warm weather species. You have to atleast wait until after the morels start fruiting, morels pop up just a few weeks before the subbs start(in my area that is)


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: neoNihlist]
    #561169 - 02/24/02 02:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

got that right, i live in chico ca and i'm headed up that way befor too long, last year i brought back three pounds dry!


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: dead_wire]
    #561313 - 02/24/02 07:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

how many subb mushrooms do you normally have to pick to bring home 8 pounds dry? -er i mean, 3 pounds..


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #561337 - 02/24/02 08:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well, 1 oz. of fungus and 2 and 15/16 oz. of dirt! J/K :smile:
Remember, to make the mushrooms dry, all you have to do is get rid of that damn water. It may difficult, but possible.
Stay cool!-Levi7.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: Levi7]
    #561345 - 02/24/02 08:57 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

...so your trying to tell me he only found 1 ounce of fungus?
- Wet or dry???


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #561353 - 02/24/02 09:07 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That's a hard question to answer-Wet or Dry??? Hmmm......
Man, 3 lbs of dried mushrooms would fill a 35 gallon refuse container to the brim. New York City could get high twice from that many mushrooms.
Of course, I've never seen that many mushrooms at one picking in my life, so I'll not speculate any further.
Stay cool!-Levi7.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #561773 - 02/24/02 07:46 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

more than you can count in a week, the three lb weighed about 33.5 lb. fresh. took a few days just to pick, and that was in places where i knew they grew. it would take quite a bit longer if you don't know where to look.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: Lizard King]
    #562035 - 02/25/02 01:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well it has been warmer here in eugene for the past week and a half or so, and rained some in the past couple days, temps have been mid 50's or so. Do you think I'd have any luck going and scoping out by the airport tomorow?


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: astrobrite]
    #562081 - 02/25/02 02:27 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

not just yet, it'll be about a month.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: dead_wire]
    #562088 - 02/25/02 02:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

How did you weigh 33.5 pounds of fresh subbalteatus??

How did you dry 33.5 pounds of fresh subbalteatus?

And, i assume that since the 33 (thirty-three) pounds in only a few (3?) days, then you had more than one location to pick them from.
-Because if you pick 11.13 pounds of fresh subbs one day from the one location, then it is safe to say that there wont be 11.13 pounds the next day, and 11.13 pounds (fresh) the third day, (They need at least 20 hours to grow back into full shrooms again, even in hot weather)
-Since you say you picked for only a few days, and a few equals three days

Also, how long does it take on average to sort through (and clean) 33.5 pounds of fresh subbalteatus??
-Well, i know as far as copelandia cyanescens go, it takes longer to sort through the mushrooms then it does to pick them.
-Usually it takes me at least an hour to go through a pound (1 pound) of fresh copelandia..........
And copelandia are similar in size and stature as the Pan subbs you scored.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: dead_wire]
    #562089 - 02/25/02 02:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So, roughly, you have around 33.5 hours of sorting through your shrooms and laying them out to dry (or maybe you had several dozen food dehydrators with you)...
-Isnt that hard on your back to sit and do that for 33.5 hours non-stop?

So, one of your three days of shroom picking was devoted to doing that.
-So, you were actually picking nearly 17 pounds of subbalteatus within a two day picking period.
Am i right about that?

So, you must have had several dozen dehydrators with you on this trip.
-And also, if you were only gone for three days..the last 24 hours must have been down time, just relaxing and waiting for the last 17 pounds to become dry.

Now i see.

It can be done.

But only in California.


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #562121 - 02/25/02 03:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Would these be found as far down as Humboldt County? I've been mushroom hunting for a collection but haven't seen any, but then again I've been in the woods. Will you find these near farms? They grow in manure or compost types of substratum? Where you guys suggest looking?


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: HumboldtHort]
    #562231 - 02/25/02 06:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well, dead_wire picks roughly 34 pounds of shrooms an hour.
-That isnt 34 pounds dry though, only 34 pounds fresh.
So dont be getting your hopes up too high.
dead_wire claims that this mushroom is like a "weed".
He only picks the large clusters of subbs that weigh several ounces each
and then he fills double lined paper grocery bags to the brim with the subbies.
Easy as pie.
He lives in California.
He travels to only specific locations of which the subbs are known to grow.

....Looking across the horizon of subb lined pastures, the excitment of
seeing such a sight is enough to pick several thousand pounds a day.
Last year he found a 33.5 pounds of them, 2 1/2 hours.
He is known by many up down and across the west coast as
"The Subb God"


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Re: Help Pan Subbs. [Re: HumboldtHort]
    #562232 - 02/25/02 06:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

-Earning this nickname after numerous accounts of him making
yearly pilgramages to specific locations that are known to grow
hundreds of thousands of clusters (some of which weigh over,
24 pounds) of "subbs" (thats not dry weight, thats fresh weight).
Then he dries them and then he drives them back home.
Every year.

He has one patch of subbs that stain purple and have blue spores.
-This field has appropriately coined the name "Subb-Heaven".
This ultra potent strain of subbs yeild more potent mushrooms than
the cubes that he picks at a different known location, but not
quite as potent as the liberty caps found in the farmers watermelon
gardens.


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