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Confused
    #5531729 - 04/18/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

First of all, after 2 weeks i finally got signs of something. I have 3 contams 2 of them with green mold. The other is like a nasty looking yellow which is actually still growing a lot of mycelium (it is separated from all my others).

I have searched now for 3 days trying to figure it out. The substrate is moving of the inner walls of the jar but now there is one little spot of green. I have read, read, and when i possibly thought i couldn't read anymore I read again. I'm keeping the jar with the nasty yellow stuff just to see what happens (this is my first time growing). Now sometimes it seems its hard to ask these questions because it seems you will get burned for not reading the FAQ, or not searching hard enough and we all know what I'm talking about.

Now back to my question. I have read that if you see any sign of contams throw it out. Now i have also read on how to treat it to revive it and so on and so forth. So with these contamed ones i have, should they actually be treated or thrown out? So although i know what to do and how to do, pretty much im asking this question b/c i dont trust myself, and from what i read contams and mushrooms themselves are nothing to mess around with.

So thats why this thread would be named confused. B/C in this website where it is stressed like all other educational websites, is to do your research and read the FAQ, before repeating any questions that are already posted, but im asking for re-re-insurances. Mostly because I dont want to die and I dont think any of you guys do either.


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Re: Confused [Re: Shush]
    #5531800 - 04/18/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A big rule when dealing with contams, is if you get obvious contams throw them out.  You will do this for several reasons. First, that bacteria/mold is growing freely on your casing/cake and that will potentially spread on to other cakes/casing and if it does that your not going to be happy.  Second, many unwanted bacteria/molds as a natural defense produce toxins that can give you a nice case of the shits/pukes or can possibly flat out kill you.  The yellow/gold contam is probably a Staph. aureas bacteria that is one of the leading causes of food poisioning.  Dont open it, dont risk spreading it, and for F-sake dont sniff it. green mold is probably a Trichoderma genus, some of which species are quite toxic to humans.  My suggestion to you would be to toss everything that is obviously contaminated and clean every surface you can and even the air with a strong disinfectant, the last thing you want it that shit coming back in your next batch, or infecting more of your current batch.  A good diluted bleach soln, or a semi-strong phenol soln will sufficiently clean you working area.

does this look familure



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Re: Confused [Re: mrTtheH]
    #5531883 - 04/18/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The only way i can explain the yellow shit is it looks like yellow moss. Damn how i wish i had a camera. The other 2 contams i dumped outside away from my house, is that OK? I guess ill do the same with yellow one.
Thanks a lot mrTtheH (straight to the point)


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Re: Confused [Re: Shush]
    #5533506 - 04/19/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If you think the yellow is more moldy looking then it is more than likely a species of the Aspergillus genus. This type of mold produces spores that can survive the pressure cooking. They generally attack grains that have been stored in a hot, damn environment. Many species of this genus produce extremely potent toxins.
Again my advice stands, toss the contams and clean as much of the surfaces as you realisticly can and finally spray some aerosol air disinfectant. Do this everytime before you get ready to mix-substrait or innoc jars, make casings.


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