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OfflineKidgardFromSRQ
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Why are you an athiest?
    #5531288 - 04/18/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Why are you an athiest? Theres alot of supporting evidence that god or some higher being is real, and there is an afterlife. But what evidence is there that he is not real and there is no afterlife? What logic is there behind athiesm?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5531297 - 04/18/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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KidgardFromSRQ said:
Why are you an athiest? Theres alot of supporting evidence that god or some higher being is real




I haven't seen any?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5531338 - 04/18/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

read bible codes. although we can only speculate who made it/why it is. it does prove there is a higher being (going with what the bible says in the text)


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5531349 - 04/18/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

psh just casue you read something in a book makes it real?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5531359 - 04/18/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry, but the bible does not prove the existance of a higher power/god. It only speculates and gives symbolic "wisdom".


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5531518 - 04/18/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

seems to me that religious people go on one specific rule....
"the absence of evidence isnt the evidence of absence"
its the same rule the Bush administration uses when it comes to the WMD's.

i'm an atheist because i've come to realize religion has done more bad than good.

i cant remember who said it, but this phrase sums it all up.

"Without religion, good people would do good things and evil people would do evil things, but for a good person to do evil things......well that takes religion"

i'd LOVE to see some evidence of god that is more believable than all the scientific data showing evolution and the fact that life spawned by pure chance.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5531552 - 04/18/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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KidgardFromSRQ said:
read bible codes. although we can only speculate who made it/why it is. it does prove there is a higher being (going with what the bible says in the text)



The only thing the Bible code proves is that some very interesting things happen when you apply mathematical codes to the Bible(and it turns out that similar phenomena occur when you apply it to Moby Dick, by Herman Melville). The only proof of God can come from within, and thus it cannot be objectively verified.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5531561 - 04/18/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Kabbalah is much more interesting than Bible Code.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5531579 - 04/18/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Theres alot of supporting evidence that god or some higher being is real, and there is an afterlife




Really?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5531632 - 04/18/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Kabbalah is much more interesting than Bible Code.



Agreed.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5532696 - 04/19/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"Theres alot of supporting evidence that god or some higher being is real, and there is an afterlife."

In my opinion, there is not. That is why I do not suspect there is a God. Please, if u havent already, make a new thread in s and p to back up the existence of god with some evidence. i'll read it.
From some mathemeticians' analysis of Bible Code:
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/torah.html
"We have performed many independent scientific tests of the Bible Codes claims. All of them failed to detect anything not easily explained by random chance."

Please move this thread to Philosophy and Spirituality. The quote and link I added break this forum's rules. However, in my opinion this thread requires any atheists to break the forum rules by giving reasons why they feel their way.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5532722 - 04/19/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not. I have been presented no convincing evidence of the existence of any deities. The same reason that I am not a polytheist is the same reason that I am not a deist of any sort. Whether or not I believe in an unproven concept of a deity will not alter the material facts of my existence one bit. That being said, the actions of the religious in the name of their respective religions are perhaps the greatest arguments against following religions.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: Skeptikos]
    #5532726 - 04/19/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok Shroomism rly move this to S&P.

Anyway I think the both of us have pretty much summed up the not-theist's point of view.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5532997 - 04/19/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

cuz god told me 2


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: fresh313]
    #5533118 - 04/19/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can not prove that something does not exist. Asking me for proof that god does not exist is like asking me for proof there is not a invisible pink elephant flying around my house right now. You can prove that there IS a invisible pink elephant flying around my house but you cant prove there is not. Understand?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #5533141 - 04/19/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am not an atheist. That would be as narrow-minded as christianism.
In simple words...I just don't know!!! That doesn't mean I am not continuously thinking about many possibilities...


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: Shroomerious]
    #5533164 - 04/19/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am not an atheist. That would be as narrow-minded as christianism.

Why do you think that?


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #5533174 - 04/19/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Christians believe there definately is a god.
Atheists believe there definately isn't a god.

Black
or
White

....our life is not

one can only have fun speculating.... with the ultimate goal to find out the truth ofcourse!


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: Shroomerious]
    #5533192 - 04/19/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Atheist's don't believe there is not a god
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They lack a belief in god.

There is a difference if you think about it.


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Re: Why are you an athiest? [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #5533196 - 04/19/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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BuddahKillah said:
Atheist's don't believe there is not a god
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They lack a belief in god.

There is a difference if you think about it.



Depends on the kind of the atheism. Weak atheism is a lack of belief in God. Strong atheism is a belief in the non-existence of God.


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