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Offlinegibson45711
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necissary to do with a bong
    #5531046 - 04/18/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hey i have done salvia now about 4 or 5 times. My first was with 15x and a bong and i was blown away lately i got some 10x and have hit it out of a large chamber pipe but not water bong. i didnt do as much just to see if i got anything and not to waste much. I got some definate salvia effects and was wondering if a bong was neccisary or if it was just because of its big chamber
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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: gibson45711]
    #5531064 - 04/18/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

bongs are not necessary, I never use one.

I have always used (successfully) a small straight glass bat with a bic lighter.


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: gibson45711]
    #5531072 - 04/18/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

first off, 10x is not the same as 15x, so thats not an accurate experiment. Second of all, a bong will give you a much bigger onset I believe, and so do almost anybody else that smokes salvia. To answer your question, No, it is not necessary but recommended, if not preferred.

[edit: thanx rockytop83, i didn't notice. Don't know what I was thinking]


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: drSE]
    #5531148 - 04/18/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hahaha, can you please explain how 10X is twice as strong as 15X????

Anyway, no bong is required. Its more about how big a hit you can take and how long you can hold it.

But... 1 hit of 10X is PLENTY for me, YMMV


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: gibson45711]
    #5531346 - 04/18/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It could be because your first time was a rather large hit of more potent extract. In comparison to taking 5g's of shrooms your first time - anytime after with anything less might not be much of a trip


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5531361 - 04/18/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is also standerdized salvia, and non-standerdized salvia


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: drSE]
    #5531394 - 04/18/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

never done salvia so I couldn't say specifically about potency, etc. But I believe the reason that the bong is generally preffered is because it has a larger chamber which hold the smoke and "shoots" it all into your lungs at once. All the active chemicals hit the surface area of the lungs in a shorter period of time and therefore absorb into the blood stream faster causing a more intense come-up. Just my theory though... Based off of already known information of course...


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Re: necissary to do with a bong [Re: StickyWater]
    #5532427 - 04/19/06 05:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Bongs?
well,

extracts smoke better in small pipes with regular lighters - you lose less so it will be stronger than with bongs with torches,
while plain leaf smokes much better (gets better mileage) in a bong with a torch.

when you smoke you must inhale quickly to get the vaporization going properly (i.e. to generate a strong enough pressure differential), no lazy sucking, then you have to hold it 20 seconds or so.

the bong is good for plain leaf becausse of the sheer amount that must be consumed, while this is not an issue with extracts, ditto the torches, they are for big bowls (which will not create strong pressure gradients when you suck) - in big bowls the temperature has to be raised more for the vaporization of salvinorin to occur; while in a small pipe, a quick and deliberate suck will dramatically lower the vaporization temperature of salvinorin so that a regular lighter or even a match can be used.

a side issue with large pipes and water cooled contraptions, expect to use twice as much extract as the large cooling surfaces will condense the good stuff out of your smoke.

Bongs are like driving hummers. you need more gas to move the larger contraptions.


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