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Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen?
    #5529853 - 04/18/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Like alot of people that dabble with Ethos, I can no longer use illegal substances that show up on drug test so I'm currently seeking a powerful, legal alternative that I can take and just chill out listening to music. I've read alot about all different types of Ethos, but I dont have the money to try them all out. I've tried kratom, ordered a pound of some quality kava, and am making some lotus tea today. Kratom worked pretty nicely except it's been making me sick and the cost has really gone up in the past months. I'm also curious about the many extracts that are out their, but I would like to hear some first hand experiences before I commit to buying them.

I've also read alot on Erowid, but I think some of the reports, especially ones that really praise Etho's, were written by Etho suppliers or people that haven't really tried the herb.

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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: TripDoctor]
    #5529995 - 04/18/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

valerian.. opium....


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: the man]
    #5530035 - 04/18/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that don't show up drug tests...

Valerian will chill me right out, i had to try a few different brands to find one that worked with me. Spring Valley - the Sprawl Wort version has been the most effective.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5530051 - 04/18/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sorry,

intoxicatign mint works well but it is a bit expensive. probably the worst tasting stuff ever. very very bitter


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: TripDoctor]
    #5530123 - 04/18/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Skullcap can be very powerful, it acts in a similar way to benzos like valium and xanax. Just be careful because it can be potent.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: dblaney]
    #5530575 - 04/18/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, I hear alot about skullcap but I've never really herd of, outside a few erowid reports, anyone actually smoking the type that is "comparable to the highest quality of cannabis." IAS claims to have the Desert Mad Dog variety, which is supposedly the kind that's just as strong as bud. It only cost like 2.50 and ounce too!! If it really is as powerful as Howie Brounstein(the guy who wrote the popular paper "Herbal Smoking Mixtures" ) claims it to be, then wouldn't it be all Etho suppliers top seller, or illegal.

Since it's only a few bucks an ounce I'll try it out and post the results here, but I doubt it's as strong as I people claim.

Thanks for the help though.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: TripDoctor]
    #5531245 - 04/18/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Mullen!


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5532579 - 04/19/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Really?

smoked? oral? extraction?

I'm a big fan of mullen to begin with, its great for opening air ways so be careful what you mix it with.


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    #5533555 - 04/19/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: pod3]
    #5533710 - 04/19/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's what an old Indian friend of mine has said. Looking online i find this

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In the medicinal milieu, ancient Romans used mullen as a remedy for coughs. The Mohegan-Pequot Indians smoked the leaves as a treatment for asthma and sore throats. The Iroquois used the leaves in poultices for sores and swellings




Maybe CK would like to tell us more about the sedative effects?


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5535784 - 04/19/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What is IAS?


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: thelorax121]
    #5536021 - 04/19/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I AM SHAMAN.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: the man]
    #5536454 - 04/20/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Skullcap might not be what your looking for.
though its strong, it doesent realy have anyhigh to speak of,
it just realy calms you down.

Skullcap is sometimes recommended for exam anxiety and driving test and stuff like that...


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: TripDoctor]
    #5536867 - 04/20/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Demania has some effect but you build up a tolerance really quickly. Skullcap tastes like crack to me (don't ask how I know) and that bothered me enough that I just didn't like it. If you grow your own Calea then you can smoke the flowers and get a pretty good buzz. Good luck with that though. When I was on probation I just ended up cracking ang started smoking herb again. God damn it feels good to be off.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #5536872 - 04/20/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Opium.. my first batch of poppies are already coming up and are about 2 1/2 feet tall.. i cant wait til my little pods of gold are ready for harvest!!


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: Banez]
    #5536874 - 04/20/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Opium.. my first batch of poppies are already coming up and are about 2 1/2 feet tall.. i cant wait til my little pods of gold are ready for harvest!!



He only wants stuff that he can't get popped for on a drug test.


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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #5536877 - 04/20/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

oo sorry.. i didnt catch that part.


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    #5540782 - 04/21/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Most Powerful Sedative Ethogen? [Re: pod3]
    #5541341 - 04/21/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, good info. Roughly how many leaves do you use in your tea?


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    #5541425 - 04/21/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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