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Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia.
    #5529168 - 04/18/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I just had a hit of 10x extract, and salvia is weird as fuck !!!!!
I still feel abit strange, and my jeans still feel funny against my skin.
When i was peaking i could feel my bed trying to swallow me, trying to take me away, but i kept being distracted by the things to the side of me on the floor. Everytime i looked at them i kept being brought back to reality, so i never really got away fully.

This leads me to ask,

Whats the best way to prepare your surroundings before you smoke salvia ?.
Do you think its best to sit or to lay down,
have things around you or clear the room of anything distracting.

Maybe you have an object you like to have there that you can go into when the trip starts.
Or maybe its best to sit right in front of a blank wall.

Basically im wondering what you do to help yourself on your way, is there anything you do to guarantee you get fully absorbed into the experience ?.

I think im going to try clearing anything distracting away next time. Theres a two seata sofa to the right of where i lay down, and this usually adds alot to the experience.
The sofas a part of a two piece set so next time i might drag the other sofa and put it on the left hand side of me, so i have a sofa on either side.
That might be awesome !  :shocked:  :thumbup:  :smile:


Edited by Mike_yy (04/18/06 12:13 PM)


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5529378 - 04/18/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm getting ready to take my first salvia trip and it would be awesome if you veterans could fill us in on this subject. I was just coming here to post the same thread but I saw that i was beat to it! :stoned:

My plan was to go into my room and close my door and my blinds and drape a blanket over my window to make it pitch black. I was planning on wearing a light pair of gym shorts and a t-shirt as i heard salvia tends to make your clothes feel like a burden. I will then sit on my bed and take my hit of 5x extract and lay my pipe down. Next i'll just lay back on my bed holding in the smoke untill my experience starts.

Remember this is my first time, does this sound like a good preperation?


Edited by KingSpade (04/18/06 12:54 PM)


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: KingSpade]
    #5529434 - 04/18/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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KingSpade said:
I'm getting ready to take my first salvia trip and it would be awesome if you veterans could fill us in on this subject. I was just coming here to post the same thread but I saw that i was beat to it! :stoned:




My first bit of advice is to make sure you smoke enough of it. If your using a 10x extract you want a nice full bowls worth.
I like to get 3 to 5 good pulls from the pipe, holding each one in for around 10 seconds.
Im still experimenting with my surroundings, i think that might make a big difference though !

I just read your edit. Yeah, i dont like the way it makes my cloths feel. Maybe thats a good idea wearing something light.
Just make sure you smoke enough of the extract with it being 5x.
You will be able to gauge yourself after your first attempt.
Ive never tried smoking it in the dark, but id guess its a good idea to have abit of light coming in. Im unsure tho, you could always try both if you have enough salvia.
Happy salvia smoking !  :thumbup:



Edited by Mike_yy (04/18/06 01:18 PM)


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5529553 - 04/18/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Turn off the lights, put on a favorite song, get a blind-fold - take a few huge bong/bubbler rip's (if you can figure out how to work the bong after 1 or 2 hits), put the blind fold on and lay back.

Might not be the best idea cause ive got up and walked around during a salvia trip - not expecting to - cause i was so tripped out.  First timers prob shouldnt do this, but if your pretty experienced with salvia you'll prob be alright.  Just dont blame me if u fall out a window  :cool:


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5529565 - 04/18/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

distractions do not matter when you hit enough salvia, it forces you into the world of salvia. put on some good or trippy music (scary music if you're brave), maybe a movie or tv show, and take 3 or more hits while holding a decent amount of smoke in for about 30 or more seconds.

quickly put the pipe down after each hit, you do not want to drop it.

if you cannot move or you become an object, dont worry, you will come back to normal completely shortly after.

i recommend doing around 2 bowls of pot before you start, this seems to intensify it (in a very good way).

after smoking a bowl of pot, i took several small hits of salvia and it seemed to give a strange unique feeling of being stoned.

i also recommend taking several small hits of salvia (around a bowls worth), then taking the big ones (30 second or longer hits).

i hope this helps!

oh ya and i would NOT recommend a blind fold.


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Edited by enderwood (04/18/06 01:33 PM)


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5529596 - 04/18/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I like my room to be completely dark or dim lighted.I usually do it alone as well.If you are inexperienced I wouldn't recommend this.You need someone there to take the pipe from you and calm you down if things get nuts.

Also prepare a spot so that you will be able to lay completely back.

I also find that it is far better to not have any music playing.After you "wake up" music is just fine.I like to play my tablas after I come back from a s.divinorum experience.

My best advice is to keep all outside distractions away.No crazy flashing trip lights,music,burning candles or incense.Let the sage do all that for you!


I like the idea of light clothing.I never thought of that before.Hell even smoking it naked!

That would be a nice sight,someone walks in your room and sees you lying on the bed with a pipe next to you butt ass fucking naked babbling about golden utopias,female diviners and be completely incoherent at the same time.


Have some light at easy access so when u "come back" from the salvia saga,you dont stand up and trip over your shit trying to turn a light back on.

If you have friends present,ask them to please abstain from talking during your experience.


Cheers,and enjoy.


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: enderwood]
    #5529599 - 04/18/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, maybe i need to up my dose's again to guarantee a seat in the world of salvia. I always had a feeling my surroundings were holding me back. I guess more salvia would do it though.
I always wondered why sometimes i had full effects and then other times not, i must be hovering around the threshhold amount for a breakthrough.

I still think im going to try the 2 sofa thing, I can see that making the starts of my trip really weird !

Thanks for the advice !


Edited by Mike_yy (04/18/06 01:50 PM)


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: enderwood]
    #5529611 - 04/18/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I disagree with some of this.If you are after the blown away break through experience,distractions matter.It will take more of salvia to get you were you want if you are distracted by people,music or light.

Smoking weed right before and right after a salvia experience is that great of an idea.I find that salvia and weed dont produce a nice effect togother.But that is just my opinion.A few other people share this opinion as well.

Dont take a hit of weed and a few small hits of salvia.This is a waste of salvia.Put it in a bong hit the shit out of it and say bye bye.

The idea of a few small hits to sorta charge up seems interesting.It deff. isnt needed.Just make sure those small hits are small.Or you will be to fucked up to hit the pipe again and break through to salvia space.


The most important thing is to try it in different settings and figure out what works best for you!


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5529621 - 04/18/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A blind fold sounds like a wonderful idea.If you could get someone to tie it around your head right after you took your hits,thenlayed back.I think this would be fucking awesome.

I will deff. try this.Thanks


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5529653 - 04/18/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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aNeway2sayHooray said:
I disagree with some of this.If you are after the blown away break through experience,distractions matter.It will take more of salvia to get you were you want if you are distracted by people,music or light.




This is what i was thinking.
Light dosent seem to bother me, though my best experience was at dawn when there was very little light.
I think if i could make my surroundings perfect for me, this would help me alot. Maybe its just that if i put that effort into it, id know id not be distracted by anything.

I think i might be able to breakthrough using lower dose's if i did this, but ive already decided to just smoke more salvia in future.
Like i said i think i might be hovering around a threshhold dose for a breakthrough, this would explain my varied results.


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5529700 - 04/18/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What strength extract were you using?

I recommend everyong get a cutting.

All these vendors and headshops are partly the reason salvia divinorum is being outlawed.

So if you want high quality salvia in the future then you better get a cutting.

You also dont have to worry about getting old or mis identified product from some shady vendor.

There is nothing better than growing attached the the plant that you cultivate for you psychedelic experiences.


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5529754 - 04/18/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I usually use the 10x extract, but at its highest price it 25 pounds ( about 44 US dollars ) for a gram,
Fucking rediculous !!!.

Id love some cuttings. Someone did say they would sort me some out but that never came through.

Do you make your own extracts ?

Forgot to say, i dont have the means to be able to buy online. Everything i get comes from shop's that sell this kind of stuff.
I really need to sort a card out soon !


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5529783 - 04/18/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

No not yet.

I have a few cuttings that are suppose to be on their way.

I want to chew some fresh leaves.ALso try a tea.

You should be able to break through using the 10x,i am sure you are taking big enough doses.It is most likely your mindset and your surroundings.

I break through with 6X.One large bowl in my water bong and ...Zang

People break through with plain dry leaf all the time as well.It is all depended on your mindset and your surroundings.And the quality of your product.

I suggest www.shamanspalace.com for your extracts.This way the local headshop head hunters dont make any money off of you.You support a great website and you dont add to the illegalization of salvia in your country buying from head shops.

www.iamshaman.com is great as well.But I suggest shamans palace.


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5529813 - 04/18/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the advice.
I think you might be right about my mindset. It might help if i just tidy'ed the room up abit first, got rid of any mess that might distract me.

Im going to see if i can get a card this week, so i can buy stuff off the net easyier.
Im sick of paying daft prices for all these things, its actually cheaper to buy illegal drugs than it is alot of the alternatives.

Ill put those sites into my favorites and just window shop for now.
Thanks for the links  :smile:


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5530156 - 04/18/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah cleaning up is a good idea.Build up the importance of smoking salvia.Ritual is very important.Perhaps a speical lighter and bong/pipe for salvia only.If you put ritual into the mix its like salvia has a place in your mind and it will be easier to get to that place.I dont know if this makes sense at all.

Enjoy the link.Shamans palace send tons of free stuff to.They are a shroomery vendor.


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sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


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Re: Your Surroundings Preparation's for Salvia. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5530569 - 04/18/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Lying down, naked, in silent darkness.


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