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Iran + the United Nations = Sanity????
#5528409 - 04/18/06 06:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does this make sense to anyone?
Iran Elected to UN Disarmament Commission By Julie Stahl CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief April 17, 2006
Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - Under threat of United Nations Security Council sanctions for its own nuclear program, Iran has been elected to a vice-chair position on the U.N. Disarmament Commission, whose mission includes deliberations on preventing the spread of nuclear weapons.
The commission's deliberations began last Monday and are scheduled to continue until April 28. On the first day of the commission meeting, Iran along with Uruguay and Chile was elected as one of eight vice-chairs, elected to serve for one year.
It happened on the same day that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad promised his people "good news" about the country's nuclear program.
The following day, Iran announced that it had managed to enrich uranium, a key ingredient in the production of a nuclear bomb.
On Monday, former Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said that his country would continue to enrich uranium, and dismissed the idea that the U.S. might attack nuclear facilities in Iran.
"We are certain that Americans will not attack Iran because the consequences would be too dangerous," Rafasanjani was quoted as telling the Kuwaiti parliament.
Dr. Dore Gold, former Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. said that electing Iran to a leadership position on the UN Disarmament Commission was like asking the "cat to guard the milk."
"Clearly the Iranians have an interest in establishing disarmament rules that protect their clandestine nuclear weapons program," said Gold, author of Tower of Babble: How the United Nations Has Fueled Global Chaos.
"For the last decade and a half, Iran has appointed a very large diplomatic mission to the U.N. and has sought to obtain appointments to as many U.N. bodies as possible," said Gold in a telephone interview.
It is not a surprise, therefore, that Iran would find a place at the table of even the most sensitive committees, he said.
According to Gold, the various commissions at the U.N. establish the "background noise" and "international norms" that are adopted for dealing with problems worldwide.
"They have a way of penetrating the judgments of the U.N. secretariat and other U.N. bodies," he said.
The Disarmament Commission's new chairman, Joon Oh from South Korea, said prior to the group's meeting that it was not intended to be an isolated event but should be considered an integral part of worldwide disarmament efforts.
According to a release on the Disarmament Commission's website, the agenda items include recommendations for achieving nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation and "practical confidence-building measures in the field of conventional weapons."
The commission was established by a U.N. General Assembly resolution in 1978 to, among other things, pursue "effective international control of atomic energy" and make sure that atomic energy was used only for peaceful purposes.
While Iran's election to the commission is not a "decisive development," Gold said, it is "one link" in the chain that helps Iran use multi-lateral organizations to serve its interests.
Prof. Anne Bayefsky, who edits the Eye on the U.N. website, quoted U.N. Undersecretary-General for Disarmament Affairs, Nobuaki Tanaka, as saying that the commission "played a unique role" with "the advantage of being a fully universal deliberative body."
"This is the U.N. fiction, which brings us close to nuclear war with each passing day," Bayefsky said. "The allusion is to universal democracy, though the majority of voters is non-democratic and include thugs, racists and war-mongers."
As tensions grow over the situation in Iran, Washington has not ruled out the idea of a military option in dealing with Iran, though it has downplayed the idea.
The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, recently referred Iran to the Security Council, where the U.S. is pushing for sanctions to be leveled against the Islamic Republic.
But Gold said that if the U.N.'s dealings with Iraq set a precedent for its dealings elsewhere in the world, then it is not likely that the U.N. would be an effective body in dealing with Iran.
"The U.N. has long ago forfeited its role as an international body safeguarding international peace and security and this is just the latest proof of why the U.N. doesn't work," Gold said of Iran's election to vice chair the Disarmament Commission.
Iran says its nuclear development is for a civilian energy program but the U.S., Israel and other Western nations believe Iran is really developing nuclear weapons.
The Institute for Science and International Security, a U.S. think tank, released satellite images on Sunday showing that Iran had expanded its uranium enrichment site at Isfahan and has reinforced its underground site at Natanz.
London's Sunday Times quoted unnamed Iranian officials as saying that Iran had recruited and trained 40,000 suicide bombers, who were ready to attack American and British targets.
"We are ready to attack American and British sensitive points if they attack Iran's nuclear facilities," said Dr. Hassan Abbasi, head of the Center for Doctrinal Strategic Studies in the Revolutionary Guards.
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5528447 - 04/18/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Palestinian kills nine in Tel Aviv bombing
Israel said it held Hamas responsible for the attack in Tel Aviv even though a separate group, Islamic Jihad, claimed responsibility. Islamic Jihad has close ties to Israel's archenemy, Iran.
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060418/1049245.asp
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
#5528498 - 04/18/06 07:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is somewhat of a unrelated issue........I was wondering how is a county admitted to a disarmament section of the UN, for doing exactly, what they are supposedly to watchdog against??????
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5528502 - 04/18/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The UN is a coalition of countries out to get the US?
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: daimyo]
#5529382 - 04/18/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Or the UN is so diluted that one hand does not know what the other is doing..............
-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: daimyo]
#5529393 - 04/18/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it is not against international law for Iran to have enriched uranium, they have actually signed the non-proliferation treaty that the US and Russia and others signed. It is only against the law for them to have the bomb. So technicly if we did put sanctions on them we would be thowing the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing out the window.
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: blaze2]
#5529520 - 04/18/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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They are already in violation of that treaty, this article is one example, and its close to three years old:
Iran's Nuclear Threat
By MASSIMO CALABRESI SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHOR Posted Saturday, Mar. 08, 2003
With war in Iraq looming and North Korea defiantly pursuing its own nuclear program, the last thing President Bush needs is another nuclear crisis. But that is what he may soon face in Iran. On a visit last month to Tehran, International Atomic Energy Agency director Mohamed ElBaradei announced he had discovered that Iran was constructing a facility to enrich uranium ? a key component of advanced nuclear weapons ? near Natanz. But diplomatic sources tell TIME the plant is much further along than previously revealed. The sources say work on the plant is "extremely advanced" and involves "hundreds" of gas centrifuges ready to produce enriched uranium and "the parts for a thousand others ready to be assembled."
Iran announced last week that it intends to activate a uranium conversion facility near Isfahan (under IAEA safeguards), a step that produces the uranium hexafluoride gas used in the enrichment process. Sources tell Time the IAEA has concluded that Iran actually introduced uranium hexafluoride gas into some centrifuges at an undisclosed location to test their ability to work. That would be a blatant violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which Iran is a signatory.
The IAEA declined to comment. A senior State department official said he believed El Baradei was trying to resolve the issue behind the scenes before going public. But experts say the new discoveries are very serious and should be handled in public. "If Iran were found to have an operating centrifuge, it would be a direct violation [of the non-proliferation treaty] and is something that would need immediately to be referred to the United Nations Security Council for action," says Jon Wolfstahl of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Iran insists that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes and told elBaradei that Tehran intends to bring all of its programs under IAEA safeguards. U.S. officials have said repeatedly they believe Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons.
The new discoveries could destabilize a region already dangerously on edge in anticipation of war in Iraq. Israel ? which destroyed an Iraqi nuclear plant in Osirak in a 1981 raid ? is deeply alarmed by the developments. "It's a huge concern," says one Israeli official. "Iran is a regime that denies Israel's right to exist in any borders and is a principal sponsor of Hezbollah. If that regime were able to achieve a nuclear potential it would be extremely dangerous." Israel will not take the "Osirak option" off the table, the official says, but "would prefer that this issue be solved in other ways."
The revelations come at a particularly bad time for Washington, which is locked in a battle to gain U.N. approval for an attack on Iraq and to build consensus among its allies for a multilateral approach to the crisis in North Korea. Critics of the Administration say Bush's hard public line against the so-called "Axis of Evil," combined with the threatened war with Iraq, have acted as a spur to both Iran and North Korea to accelerate their nuclear programs. "If those countries didn't have much incentive or motivation before, they certainly did after the Axis of Evil statement," says one western diplomat familiar with the Iranian and North Korean programs. The Administration counters that both programs have been underway for many years.
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5529885 - 04/18/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok so even if that is a violation of the treaty, they are still allowed to operate nuclear power plants, what does the treaty say you can use nuclear power all you want but you have buy it from the US? fuck that, i would have done the same thing as Iran.
Just so you dont think I'm naive I like most people believe they want the bomb. But again who can blame them. If america and russia and the what 5 or 6 other countries have the bomb, why should they be able to tell the rest of the world they cant have them? We have no right to tell anyone what they can or cant do. If we werent such assholes to world we wouldnt have enemys. We should try to change OUR ways not THEIRS. That would produce ACTUAL security. Imagine that.
Thast how a person deals with another person, but for some reason in international affairs, no one seems to be able to let go of their selfish pride. If the arabs dont want american buisnesses in the middle east then they shouldnt be there. If they want to live under the laws of Islam then so be it. Freedom is what we preach, but what we mean is your free as long as you play the game our way. Its THEIR Land to do what they want with, not ours to dictate our laws to.
America like all "great" empires will eventually fall, and the rest of the world will cry out in joy at the fallen beast. I only wish I could see it, but who knows maybe I will. Peace
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
#5530268 - 04/18/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I posted this 3 days ago
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Re: Iran + the United Nations = Sanity???? [Re: zappaisgod]
#5531304 - 04/18/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blaze2 stated:
We should try to change OUR ways not THEIRS. That would produce ACTUAL security. Imagine that.
This is actually the opinion, and the frame of mind, that makes the USA more insecure. Its our fault. Boo fucking hoo.You think a change in USA policy will help facilitate a safer Iran? Their leader shouting that "Israel should be wiped off the map" and the "Holocaust did not exist". Last time I checked, Israel was one of our allies.
For you to hope that America fails in its efforts, shows how confused you are, and how you contradict yourself. Whats the difference from you saying that you want to see America fall as an empire, and someone wanting to see Iran crumble? Nothing. You would like to see America dissolve from them trying to prevent a questionable nuclear program? Who are you to say this? How Hypocritical!
-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
Edited by SirTripAlot (04/18/06 09:35 PM)
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