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Festivus
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: hambone]
#5529337 - 04/18/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hadn't thought of that, but it isn't a bad idea at all.
I foresee more tinkering in the future.
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thenewguy05
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: Babo911]
#5529444 - 04/18/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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my PMP never has any problem producing bumper crops




Edited by thenewguy05 (04/18/06 02:43 PM)
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FooMan



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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: Babo911]
#5529793 - 04/18/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quick WBS Prep
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FooMan



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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: hambone]
#5529926 - 04/18/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hambone said: similar things have been done that you would probably benefit from checking out . i've contemplated using one of these in correlation with these sensors. unfortunately i can only work with hardware and this requires writing code. the cost is:
$30 humidity/temp sensor $20 CO2 sensor $20 parts for the CUI unit ($50 if you want it prebuilt) $0 (ideally) code in C $5-$30 misc hardware plus whatever other sensors you may want to add. (plenty of room)
total comes out around $75-$150 us
though there may be problems with such a setup, i wanted something i could hook up to my computer to adjust the settings whenever, but unplug and act on it's own. i take a lot of business trips so automation is something i've been watching closely.
I'm not sure if you meant to respond to me or not, but thanks for the links! Unless you are including something to control the temperature of that setup, I still see no benefit over a mono/double tub setup. Have you read those teks?
I'm trying to figure out what the advantage of spending $100+ dollars for automation would be when I can just take a rubbermaid tub with polyfil stuffed holes to create a perfect growing environment. I don't have to worry about any type of computerized controls/timers, running out of water, electrical fires, increased electric bills and it will work just fine whether I'm home or away.
IMO, a more complicated setup is only needed if you are growing what I would consider very large quantities of mushrooms that require a greenhouse or grow room, which need some sort of external humidification/ventilation system. Even if that were the case, I'm so impressed with the simplicity and effectivness of mono/double tubs, that if I were going for large quantities, I'd just get bigger/more tubs. It's very possible to get 1lb DRY flushes from a single tub like this. That's good enough for most peoples needs.
Just =>>
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hambone
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: FooMan]
#5534531 - 04/19/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
Unless you are including something to control the temperature of that setup, I still see no benefit over a mono/double tub setup. Have you read those teks?
Just =>>: :
heatpad/heated blanket can be purchased at any thrift store for next to nothing.
i agree with you on the monotub set up being better (for cubes). like i said, i've just contemplated it. however, the advantage? for users the ability to grow pretty much any type of mushroom with little adjustments necessary. plus, if you could poop out controllers for around $100, you'd have the market tapped in that department and could bring in the monies.
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cappa
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: hambone]
#5535162 - 04/19/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mogur and I are in the prototyping stage of building a PIC based environmental controller. It will have a relay bank consisting of 4 banks of 110v power jacks. It comes in a conveniently sized package where everything but the power jacks and the sensor leads are enclosed.
It has a humidity sensor and a temp sensor. Timers are built into the software for the PIC.
It is programmable and updatable via USB. We will eventually write an application that does graphing and logging. Just in case someone wanted to leave their computer hooked up to it and do some logging etc.
Things that will be controlled: Light timing FAE timing Programmable automatic control of humidity Programable automatic control of temperature
We are considering the possibility of manufacuring a CO2 sensor cable as well. At this time, the CO2 sensors out their aren't what we are looking for becuase they have a heating element in them. Heating element + lysol or alcohol usually doesn't mix too well. A company is currently developing an IR based CO2 sensor that doesn't use a heating element. If they aren't too expensive we will have that as an upgrade accessory.
The current circuit board design leaves some options open to us so that it can be upgraded as technology improves.
The nice thing about our unit is; say you wanted to stop growing muchrooms and wanted to grow some exotic plants?
A quick software update and a switch or two thrown and you're golden. Now you are dehumidifing, light cycle is what you want, a relay is now controlling your automatic drip watering system, etc. etc.
One day, our single device can follow you through your crazy hobbies that require specific enviromnental parameters!
We should have testing complete by the end of June. Look for a thread by Mogur or I about that time.
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hambone
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: cappa]
#5535617 - 04/19/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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see now that's what i'm talking about!
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creamcorn
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Re: Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: hambone]
#5535648 - 04/19/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i say forget the naysayers and rig up every gadget you can... why not? if you ever move up to something bigger, all your gadgetry will still work just the same, you'll have worked the kinks out, and you'll have your larger grow area set up optimally in no time flat.
plus its fun even if its usefulness is questionable... that matters just as much! :-)
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