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First mushrooms, look normal???
    #5526388 - 04/17/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This is my first time growing mushrooms. 2 1/2 pint jars cased with vermiculite and peat moss, I believe the strain is B+ but could have been mixed up. Temperatures have been remaining between 70 and 74 with humidity in the 80-85 range inside a martha with just an ultrasonic. They look weird to me and my friend but then again this is our first time so we aren't sure. What's your opinion???



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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5526401 - 04/17/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

they look weird to me too but i really have no idea what to tell ya lol


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: BPJohnny]
    #5526467 - 04/17/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LOL I dont think those are B+


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5526474 - 04/17/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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LOL I dont think those are B+




yeah almost Mex looking.....


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5526499 - 04/17/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah. those look all funnel-like and weird...


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5526531 - 04/17/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

choices were between, b+, golden teacher, pf, cambodian and puerto rican... i looked at some pictures and they are kinda like this when they firts started.
http://www.shroomery.org/images/3381/27964.jpg
http://www.shroomery.org/images/3381/27542.jpg

Now they look like this kind of...

http://www.shroomery.org/images/3381/27541.jpg


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5526536 - 04/17/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I can't tell you what kind of mushrooms those are, but I do know they are not cubensis or any other kind of psychedelic mushroom I am aware of. Don't eat any of those until you get an ID on them.

They kinda sorta resemble oyster mushrooms to me from the funnel shape but I haven't really seen then growing like that before.

Of course that could be some kind of mutation I guess. Just never seen ANYTHING that looked like that.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: musher_420]
    #5526596 - 04/17/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the substrate jars could have been two different strans... I mixed/crushed then really good together.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5526603 - 04/17/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Did you get the syringe from a shroomery vendor?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: musher_420]
    #5526661 - 04/17/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It seems like to me there are probably just more trying to grow than you have the nutrients to support. 2 half pint jars isn't very much, and you have alot of little shrooms. They do look really weird.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: musher_420]
    #5526721 - 04/17/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, they were from Spores101.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5526877 - 04/17/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Those do not look like B+ or any cubensis I've ever seen...B+ should look at least something like this:



Good luck to you.....Don't eat them if your not sure what they are !!


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: BlackCat0315]
    #5526968 - 04/17/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

contact spores101... people make mistakes they might have mislabeled something. they would likely replace it if it turns out to not be what you ordered.
keep the pictures updated, iam curious to see these weirdos grow  :smile:


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: HongKongPhooey]
    #5527171 - 04/17/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Def not cubensis, contact the vendor for a replacement. :smile:


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: coda]
    #5527253 - 04/17/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Looks alot like some sort of Oyster mushy.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: HSIHd]
    #5527783 - 04/18/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What makes you guys think they are not cubensis? I can see they are pretty messed up looking, but they look more like a poor grow to me than anything. I've had mushrooms that were completely flat little tunnels like that. It has been a long time, but I still think they are just cubensis with an inadequate amount of substrate. He said he used 2 half pints, thats a loaf pan with the casing layer it only comes up about half way, there's got to be only 3/4" of substrate or so. They look fucked up but the younger ones have red tops, and the more mature ones are very light with a dark spot in the middle.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: PORkSOdA]
    #5527820 - 04/18/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt those are cubensis. But how can a vendor be so bad as to mislabel a cubensis syringe with oysters???? Oyster syringes are sent as culture syringes, not spores. I could understand mislabeling substrains, but entirely different species/medium?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: Anonymous]
    #5528187 - 04/18/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Civic, he may have adressed the wrong package to him. Who knows?


Maybe you could try to bruse one of them?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: SleepAid]
    #5528387 - 04/18/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

looks like oysters to me too...
if it was just a mutant then there would be variations throughout the casing but it seems to be pretty consistent (i bet if he updates it's gonna be much clearer)

that's pretty disapointing :smirk:
but still if they're oysters at least the'd make a nice meal :shrug:

if you ordered cubensis and got that you should defenetly send them an email asking for compensation! if they're a good buisness i bet you'll even get extra as an apolegy!

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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: Simisu]
    #5528650 - 04/18/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

anyone know if these will be able to be eaten?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: vdubs]
    #5528709 - 04/18/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

id saute them in butter and put them on top of a ribeye :smile: i love mushrooms i like

portableles but i bet oysters would be good... let us know.........but before u cook them eat  a good 10 grams wet see if u trip

maby they just look weird


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: ZEPH]
    #5528778 - 04/18/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I really doubt they are oyster mushrooms. They look like they could be Psilocybe. See if they turn blue when you bruise them. That would be a sure sign that you have Psillys. Perhaps they just need a little fresh air and light to form normally.
Set them near a window with a humidifier on. You could also put them in a cardboard box with a few holes to breath and a clear plastic lid for light. The next flush should look better. Keep experimenting and you will find a way to help them to grow. You are well on the way. Good luck.
I like to put them outside on a thick bed of fresh chopped soaked wheat straw. Mulch the top with more straw. The straw mulch helps keep the humidity high. Keep them misted and they will grow into the straw and the dirt below. The temps outside have to be over 65 degrees at night.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mycijor]
    #5528811 - 04/18/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:sigh: ANYthing that looks like that is NOT a cubensis mushroom. There have been a few cases of mislabeled syringes, rahz had a cubie grow produce mushrooms that were not cubensis (nor any "normal" edible).

a.) Do not expect to trip if you eat these mushrooms
b.) Contact the vendor with an explanation and request for a replacement syringe
c.) Start again.

Im sorry, but you are not cultivating cubensis right now.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: coda]
    #5528825 - 04/18/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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That would be a sure sign that you have Psillys




BTW this is false. Bluing is ONE indicator of active alkaloids. There are several species that bruise blue that are inactive/inedible.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: coda]
    #5529005 - 04/18/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

but don't trash that casing just yet... grow it out to mature shrooms and get some deacent photos! maybe someone could identify it?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: coda]
    #5529017 - 04/18/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: coda]
    #5529030 - 04/18/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Coda
Have you ever heard of "Occams Razor"? Yes there are other mushrooms that do bruise blue but not any cultivars. Boletus satanus and B appendiculatus also bruise blue but these are mycorhizzal mushrooms and are not cultivated. If you know of any other cultivars that bruise blue then please enlighten me.
The bluing reaction is a SURE sign that you have Psillys.
Let me know if they bruise blue. Then there is no doubt that you have the kind.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mycijor]
    #5529060 - 04/18/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Have you ever heard of "Occams Razor"?




Your saying that its more likely that the mushrooms grew all uniformly deformed/genetically modified then the vendor simply mislabeling a syringe? I don't follow that "logic"


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5529087 - 04/18/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Those shrooms Look like a Romulian strain :mushroom2: to me


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5529095 - 04/18/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What I am saying is that the mushrooms are probably Psilocybe and the reason that they look weird is because of environmental factors such as too high humidity or lack of fresh air.
Any mushroom grown under adverse conditions can look dramatically different from what is considered normal. For example compare enoki mushrooms compared to Flamulina velutipes grown in the wild.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mycijor]
    #5529120 - 04/18/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ive grown B+ right and Ive grown B+ wrong. Ive grown B+ with too little humidity, Ive grown B+ with too much humidity. Ive even grown B+ that were deformed due to Lysol exposure. NONE OF THEM LOOKED ANYTHING LIKE THOSE IN QUESTION HERE.

According to "Occam's Razor" the simplest explanation is the the vendor mislabeled a syringe.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: mrPiggy]
    #5529159 - 04/18/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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PorkSoda said: ....He said he used 2 half pints, thats a loaf pan with the casing layer it only comes up about half way, there's got to be only 3/4" of substrate or so....




Even a 1/2 inch substrate layer would not create mushrooms like this. Yes, they'd more than likely be short and skinny, but they would still look a lot more like cubensis than these do.

I agree that you should definitely not eat these, and contact the vendor :thumbup:


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5529261 - 04/18/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

But coupled with poor enviornmental conditions?
Maybe mrPiggy can tell us what happened to his other cakes?
I still think they are cubensis. It would be nice if someone had a good explaination about why they would not be cubensis aside from "cubensis don't look like that"
They can get pretty messed up when grown poorly.
Is there anyone here who can positively identify them as any other species and give an explanation about why they are that species and not a poorly grown cube?


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5529287 - 04/18/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The simple explanation would be adverse environmental conditions. They look much closer to Psilocybe than Pleurotus. Both grow cespitose like those in the photo. I will wait for MrPiggy to let us know if they bruise blue or not. I bet they do.


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    #5529349 - 04/18/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

they're headless lol


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: Chrissss]
    #5544263 - 04/22/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

they're uncircumsized penis envy!

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ever find out what these were? or any more recent pictures? was interested to see...


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    #5544312 - 04/22/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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    #5544316 - 04/22/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

God I love when its time to harvest. My favorite part of growing.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: creamcorn]
    #5544332 - 04/22/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They kinda look like oysters, but i grew "gods flesh" one time that looked similar, but bigger, and more golden/yellow. those were some weird shrooms, and i kinda dont think that this is the case. environmental you say???? hell no, unless they were grown on the moon or something. (i guess i could be wrong, but i have NEVER seen mutation THAT bad.) i'm very curious about how they bruise....hmmmm


Now that i think about it a little more they kinda' look like mini malabars, or maybe itty bitty pearl oysters.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5544391 - 04/22/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I grew a batch of albino B+ a while ago. The caps where completely white even after they had turned up. They didnt have white caps while they were maturing though.


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Re: First mushrooms, look normal??? [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
    #5544398 - 04/22/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

wait a minute.......don't you guys think that it is strange that this new guys name is MR. PIGGY????? thats exactly what i call the cops in the doughnut shop across the street from my work.
...i'm not trying to pick a fight, but thats one hell-of-a name if you ask me.


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