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Offlinepaddleordye
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shrooms only growing on sides of casing
    #5525334 - 04/17/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The shrooms growing on the sides of the casing are doing well but there are little if any growing in the middle? Any ideas as to why? There is about a half inch of substrate layer as well.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: paddleordye]
    #5525365 - 04/17/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if there are shrooms growing on the sides you probably didn't tape the sides off so that light can't get into the sides.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: vegitative]
    #5525443 - 04/17/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the sides tend to pul laway fro mthe pan. people line the bottom of whatever they use as a pan with tinfoil. the foil clings to the substrate adn keeps there from being a gap. anyhoo the reasonsyou are getting side pinning is because you didn't search! haha kididng its beucase this area has a better micro cimate for pins thus it pins there. your case is too dry or you don't have enough humidity id say.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: paddleordye]
    #5525646 - 04/17/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Even tho you get side pins due to not blocking the light from the sides you should still see pinning in the middle of the casing as well.

It could be that your casing layer did not have the right moisture level or pH balance.

Don't you mean half inch casing layer? Not half inch of substrate layer, that's extremely thin.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: musher_420]
    #5525695 - 04/17/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Besides misting, which can damage developing primordia, another reason for no pinning in the middle could be low humidity. Around the edges of the tray are naturally more humid, so pin well. Side mushies grow just fine, and I make no attempt at all to prevent them besides using black trays.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5525714 - 04/17/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

1/2 inch of substrate layer is WAY too thin.

1/2 inch of casing is way too thick.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5525720 - 04/17/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've came to feel the same way about side pins. I will use a trash bag or tin foil to stop them on the first flush because they are a bit tricky to harvest. But by the time the second flush has come up my substrate has shrunken nearly an inch around the sides of my tub. Side pins are then easy to harvest, why bother preventing more mushrooms from growing, right?

Spicytunaroll,
I always use a half inch casing layer on about 3 inches of horse manure. It has worked just fine for me. But I completely agree about half inch of substrate being to thin, and in that case then yes a half inch of casing layer would be to thick.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: Atheist]
    #5525725 - 04/17/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The casing layer seems very thin try making one with about a 3 inch depth. Also tape up the sides


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #5525827 - 04/17/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The casing layer seems very thin try making one with about a 3 inch depth. Also tape up the sides



Confusion abounds! Casing layer should be 3/8"-5/8" generally and up to 1" with thicker substrates 3"+. I believe you meant substrate depth correct?


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: hyphae]
    #5525845 - 04/17/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

lol whoops yes the substrate layer... man I'm high


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5528749 - 04/18/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So is there anything I can about it at this point? I did mean a half inch of casing.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: paddleordye]
    #5528816 - 04/18/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Try different recipes for your casing. It sounds like your cultures are too dry. Try a one inch casing layer to keep more moisture in the substrate. I use a 3 parts coarse peat, one part vermiculite and one part ground oyster shell. I also throw in some oyster shell pieces that are sold for a chicken food supplement. The pieces seem to give little shadows places or buffered Ph zones for primordia to form.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: mycijor]
    #5528835 - 04/18/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Try a one inch casing layer to keep more moisture in the substrate.




You should never EVER go over 1/2 inch with your casing layers. Thick casing layers lead to slow/poor/irregular growth and pinsets. I think a 1/2 inch casing layer can be too much, i generally like to stick with a 1/4 inch myself.


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Re: shrooms only growing on sides of casing [Re: coda]
    #5529149 - 04/18/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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You should never ever say never ever. Ha Ha.
The casing I use is fluffy and coarse. It is like mulch on the spawn. My methods came from many years of experimentation. I also prefer to grow outdoors so your methods are apples compared to oranges. What ever works for you is fine. There is more than one way to grow mushrooms.
Do you make your own spawn?


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