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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: whowantsrabies]
    #5528544 - 04/18/06 07:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

there ain't no "right" way to do things and while obviusly all that was in good fun and all... subjectivly when i watch such a video (not knowing the people and the situation) all i see is "an example of a certine drug being used" and AS SUCH i judge it like i do...
of course if that was me i'd have a whole other viwe point :smirk:

i dunno what's going on in the US... and what the media is saying... but they could be saying anything they want (it won't be the first time...)
i have my own opinion about salvia based on my own research and my opinion is that it's not being used is a "good" way... it's being "abused" and even though i wish people were muhc more educated about salvia and drugs in generall i'd rather see it abused then prohibited because that wouldn't solv a damn thing
"stupid" people can go on being stupid for all i care as long as they're free to make their own choice to either be educated or potentialy fucked up (when it comes to drug use)

there ain't a "right way" to do things but there is certenlly a "better way" imho (or maybe not so humble? :shrug:


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: Simisu]
    #5530033 - 04/18/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe it was a good experience for these people, but the setting totally sucked IMO. I felt a bit scared for those people.
The way I did it the first time was with three good friends who stayed sober. I was in a totally dark room with one candle to guide me. I used 5X, and the first time I did a low dose and only went baseline.
After that, my friends each had a go. And then I went again with a bigger dose and that really sent me off in a good way  :grin:
After that there was a third round.
I did it a few more times with my friends, and I never stood up and stumbled around on Salvia. So then I decided to do it alone, because I felt the other consciousness (my friends) in the room was not allowing me to go further.
Now I always do it alone and use 20X. I still find it scary to do, but it's always rewarding.

So yeah, research really helps. Set and setting!


But I still would really like to see the rest of the videos, it's pretty interesting. I've only seen a few 'good' responsible online videos on a suppliers site. Looking for more now.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5530087 - 04/18/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I like the vids like I said above but I do agree about the setting. I would never smoke it with those people around and all that shit going on. On one of the vids they were trying to make the salvia tripper say 'I'm a retard' while he was tripping. That's awful. It would certainly throw me into a bad trip, if it were me. It's still interesting to watch. I'd be more interested in more intelligently made vids if they're out there.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #5530141 - 04/18/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This one is pretty cool and strange and long
[url=
&q=salvia&pl=true]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8897920471233688355&q=salvia&pl=true[/url]
"it's like wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"  :grin:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=salvia
Most of these are pretty responsible, maybe excluding the guy who tries to induce a bad trip with death metal.

[url=
&q=salvia&pl=true]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4679084620523391118&q=salvia&pl=true[/url]
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isn't that a shroomery member?


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: whowantsrabies]
    #5530572 - 04/18/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

No, no.. we are going to loose this plant because someone is going to hurt themselves, having people urge you on to stand up. What if one of those young people feel headfirst into the table because they had compromised motor control. Please no more of these kinds of videos, they make me sick.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: Kerr]
    #5530822 - 04/18/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That one with the baby making sounds in the background was weird. They were pretty responsible about the trip but that's an awful environment for a baby.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #5530831 - 04/18/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

these video's scare the shit out of me. Watching that kid with dread locks sit there all limp and then bugging out about them strings around his neck makes me think of what its gonna be like if i ever have a bad trip on mushrooms.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: PreparationH]
    #5534187 - 04/19/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

is salvia and mushrooms anything alike could this happen on mushrooms?


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: PreparationH]
    #5534322 - 04/19/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nah they are totally different. On Salvia you get completely blasted out of the world. No connection with reality on higher doses. During the experience you don't even know what or who or where you are.

A normal dose of shrooms is much less intense. You see distortions of reality, like faces in patterns, or moving patterns, colors. Other music experience. And you start to think a little different. The mind aspect is hard to explain. Anyway, shrooms are much more controlable than Salvia.
But it could happen on shrooms if you take a high dose.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5535383 - 04/19/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea ive done mushrooms twice but both times did half an 8th but soon i'll be doing an 8th but seriously if im all retarded and outta the world like that guy man thats messed up.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: PreparationH]
    #5536546 - 04/20/06 05:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Why would it be messed up to be like that guy? Maybe he's experiencing a new dimension, his youth, universal consciousness or the feeling of being a couch.
But don't worry an eighth of shrooms won't do that to you.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5536964 - 04/20/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i think these videos are pointless kinda
some may be funny
but for the most part they arnt even entertaining, espesialy if you know whats going on behind the other persons eyes.
as many have said i feel sorry for him :frown:
but in this particular one he seems to be having a good old time :smile:




seen one salvia video, seen em all :wink:


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: notapillow]
    #5536994 - 04/20/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that guy moving his hands around and twitching and mumbling incoherently looks like a retarded kid having a wet dream.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5537003 - 04/20/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i ment the first one
i saw one where this creepy nerdy goth kid takes it and tottaly breaks the fuck through. he just stares into oblivian and then starts screaming "what the fuck!"


some one posted it one here like a few weeks back


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: notapillow]
    #5537795 - 04/20/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"i've never seen anyone act like this" Is something you awknowlage internally. It helps NOBODY to hear it.
It empowers the trippers sense of fear, and it makes the other less knowlagable people (who really ought not be there laughing at the tripper anyway) become uneasy which the tripper may pick up on, adding to the terror.

The biggest response ive seen was from 2 massive lungs of 20X, the guy literally clawed up a wall and started bouncing off the hallway, arms flailing, body spinning.

unfornutately there were alot of people there and although it is clear the tripper had the social-consious level of cheese, the other people, many of whom hadn't hardly heard of salvia were VERY uneasy. laughing turning to scilence, then the awkward paranoia that somehow evryone was involved in "trouble" you know, when suddenly, evryone pretends they don't notice and they aren't really there.

Luckily myself and one other guy knew how to tripsit.
we just sorta formed a "london bridge" around him so he could spin between us and stop smashing into walls and paintings.

The guy apparently had done salvia several times and was supposed to be "good" on it. HA

whats good?

I think the best environment for salvia is an open grassy feild. perhaps with TALL grass to slow you down and cradle your falls. dispite its awkwardness, it's really not an "inside" drug. if "inside" has anything breakable or potentially pointy.

A sitter is a MUST, and i consider tricking someone into smoking salvia to be aggrivated assault and anyone involved (not trying to stop it when in knowlage thereof) to be guilty of consiracy to commit thereof.

I consider dosing children to be molestation, and people caught doing so should be punished and registered as child molestors.

unfortunately they will simply criminalize the plant to blanket these sane consequences innapropriately.

thats like mandatory castration of boys at the onset of puberty to battle sexual assault. we are given the natural parts, they are meant to be used, and to be used responably.
They have a HIGH risk of abuse, and seemingly a mind of their own. when active they act upon the mind and behavior in a way that supercedes safetly and common sence.
that and they produce hormones that lead to hair loss, antisocial behavior, cancer, insecurity, the list goes on.

lets ban men. before they take over the country.... oh wait.

Did you know that water was once classified as a hazardous chemical and banned from industrial use in the intelligently-governed state of california? WHY?
because some senitor heard that Dihydrogen oxide was being used in styrofoam manufacture and was "deadly if inhaled"
Suddenly, industry was not allowed to use H2O.
duuuhhhh.

scheduling drugs is a club fad for the elite.
us guttersipes can't deprive them of practicing that godgiven freedom of subjecating lesser men.

What fun to be elite without subjects to control?
Make them fear your consequence and you have become their idol.

But then, 'tis nothing new.

Always will there be busybodies who shall take the helm and invoke their rite of lordship.

kissing enough ass becomes a gateway drug to taking a bite.

Take enough bites and pretty soon youll be the only one left with an ass to kiss.


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Re: Salvia experience videos [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5538933 - 04/20/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great post mitch


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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