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Braves vs Mets
    #5522700 - 04/16/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Batting average:
Mets .298
Braves .277

Runs scored:
Braves 79
Mets 68

On base percentage:
Mets .349
Braves .348

Slugging percentage:
Mets .503
Braves .491

Home runs:
Braves 21
Mets 15

ERA:
Mets lead MLB with 3.24
Braves 5.72

Several key factors. Despite Jeff Francouer coming out of his slump, Edgar Renteria (.365) and Chipper Jones(Met killer) will not be playing this series due to injuries. Second thing, in the first two games the Braves are sending the back of the starting rotation (Sosa 11.37ERA and Davies 8.38ERA). Third thing is the Braves bullpen has been largely inconsistant, pitching excellent sometime and losing games most of the time.

This will be a good series. I'm a huge Braves fan but I think the Mets will win two out of three.

P.S. Mets fans: You're welcome for Tom Glavine. It's great that he is doind good this year.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5523655 - 04/17/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

chipper's not playing, but wilson betemit has been filling in nicely. you couldnt ask for a better replacement.

as for sosa and davies... maybe smoltz's complete game will motivate them to pull their heads out of their asses. we need some good innnings from our starters.

im not sure who will fill in for edgar. one of the rookies from last year i imagine.

the braves and mets play 9 times in the next 21 games. theres gonna be some great games, itll be fun to watch. if the braves want number 15, they're gonna have to show it now. the mets are the only team that will challenge them this year.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5523713 - 04/17/06 07:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Braves
ERA Wins Save K
5.72 6 4 69

Mets
ERA Wins Save K
3.24 9 3 86

keep in mind the mets played 1 less game
best stat of all.
mets 9-3
braves 6-7

im predicting sweep, also im predicting cliff floyd has a huge series, hes due.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5525996 - 04/17/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i wouldnt pick the mets to sweep but they def will win the series


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Banez]
    #5526621 - 04/17/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

well dem mets take game one.. move to 10-2.. pedro had a fuckin amazing game on the hill.. i mean sure they got 3 runs on him, but he pitched incredibly.. and the bullpen def helped him get win #200


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Banez]
    #5526686 - 04/17/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the mets bullpen is shutdown after a starter goes 6 and then sanchez comes in for 2 and wagner to close the deal with his 101 mph fast ball and 87 mph slider.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5531181 - 04/18/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Since Chipper Jones can't be the Met killer, it seems Andrew Jones took his place. It's all about the Joneses. :smile:
7 to 1 Braves win. Now on to Tom Glavine vs Tim Hudson.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5532827 - 04/19/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea cliff floyd and carlos beltran couldnt be braves killers last night either. 2 30+ hr and 100+ rbi guys make a difference in the lineup. just dont whine when the mets trade for miguel cabrera and dontrell willis, their in serious talks right now to trade lastings mileage and 2 of the top pitching prospects in the game for EL cabrera and willis. mlb should just not have a world series this year if that happens.


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    #5532950 - 04/19/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

delgado had a bad night.. i think they will come back and win tonight


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Banez]
    #5533606 - 04/19/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Once again, it's all about the Joneses. Andruw Jones homer, superior pitching by Tim Hudson and David Wrights three errors gave Atlanta the
2-1 win. Atlanta wins the series 2-1.

From the AJC:
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The Braves are now 8-8. But mortal starts are not uncommon for them. They were 8-8 at this time a year ago. They were 33-32 in mid-June. They were 37-40 through June in 2004. They were 26-26 through May in 2001. If there weren't 162 games, it would be a problem. There are. It isn't.

"It's funny," Glavine said when asked about the hype surrounding this series. "This organization obviously hasn't had the success we've wanted to have. The Braves are the envy of everybody in baseball, except for maybe the Yankees. Any time you have the opportunity to be one up on the prohibitive favorite, people are gonna run with it. As players, we're more mindful of how this plays out in October than where we are right now."

Meanwhile, the Mets lost. They're six games out of last.




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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5534181 - 04/19/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

oh well, i cant get pissed at davey, hes still my homeboy.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5534185 - 04/19/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

finally we get some good pitching. 3 complete games in the last 5 games, hell yeah! we'll get chipper back in time to play the mets at home next weekend, im gonna go saturday night! also, today's line up was more like a spring training lineup. we didnt have langerhans, mcCann, renteria, or chipper. Hudson was badass on the mound today.

i cant believe there were people already writing off the braves this year. i mean, its fucking APRIL. even the phillies have a good team this year. i know we only won two games, but im glad that we did. maybe it'll shut everone up for a little while.

the braves never get any credit on espn. every time they showcase a certain pitcher, i always notice a lot more braves striking out than any other team. it always feels good to prove people wrong.

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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5534324 - 04/19/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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finally we get some good pitching. 3 complete games in the last 5 games, hell yeah! we'll get chipper back in time to play the mets at home next weekend, im gonna go saturday night! also, today's line up was more like a spring training lineup. we didnt have langerhans, mcCann, renteria, or chipper. Hudson was badass on the mound today.

i cant believe there were people already writing off the braves this year. i mean, its fucking APRIL. even the phillies have a good team this year. i know we only won two games, but im glad that we did. maybe it'll shut everone up for a little while.

the braves never get any credit on espn. every time they showcase a certain pitcher, i always notice a lot more braves striking out than any other team. it always feels good to prove people wrong.

go braves!


yea well the series would have gone ALOT differnt if cliff floyd and carlos beltran were in the lineup, beltran an elite player in the league, floyd an all star 30+ homer guy, not to mention kaz as been out the whole year. oh well, hopfully thell be back for the braves next series so u can see the real met team thats been on fire.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5534395 - 04/19/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the braves have plenty of injuries too. chipper is one of our biggest bats and edgar was on fire befor he went down. marcus giles hurt his fniger and couldn't play either.

im not saying they wont be a bigger challenge next week, but so will we.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5534429 - 04/19/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

im sorry but i take carlos beltran and cliff floyd over chipper jones & edgar rentaria the 2nd most over rated ss in the game behind jeter. beltran is one of the best players in the game period, he was considered by many, to be the best player in the game bfor he had that bad year in 05' but people forget he played hurt. cliff floyd is a monster of a home run hitter. he bats 6th. this lineup rivals the yankee lineup and we spent 100 mill less then them.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5534647 - 04/19/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Cliff "Monster" Floyd's career stats:

203 HR 711 R 742 RBI .281 Ave .360 OBP .493 Slugging

Jeter "overrated" career stats

171 HR 1171 R 776 RBI .314 Ave .386 OBP .463 Slugging

Pretty similar except for the overwhelming Jeter lead in runs. The Jeter RBI lead is pretty interesting too considering he bats first or second. That and he plays a pretty good SS while Cliff has adventures at a much easier position


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5534705 - 04/19/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Cliff "Monster" Floyd's career stats:

203 HR  711 R  742 RBI  .281 Ave  .360 OBP  .493 Slugging

Jeter "overrated" career stats

171 HR 1171 R  776 RBI .314 Ave  .386 OBP .463 Slugging

Pretty similar except for the overwhelming Jeter lead in runs.  The Jeter RBI lead is pretty interesting too considering he bats first or second.  That and he plays a pretty good SS while Cliff has adventures at a much easier position


cliff is hurt alot..and they play differnt positions, if anyone tells me jeter isnt over rated they have no idea what thier talking about, what if jeter played on the expos his whole career, he plays for the yankees where every player gets over rated. jeter isnt even the best player or ss on his team. and first of all i said he is a monster home run hitter and he is. so why are you comparing careers? go look on how many full seasons floyd has played, also was plaing hurt 2 seasons for the mets. and i said jeter is an over rated short stop, i can name 2 of the top of my head that are better, mike young, and a-rod.
jeter games
game at bats
1539 6221

clifford floyd
games at bats
1336  4478

oh wow look at that, jeter has almost 2000 more at bats than cliff. :eek:


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5534995 - 04/19/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

In fewer seasons too. 'Cause Cliff's a twinky. Your Homer "monster" hits a HR every 22 ABs. That's kind of mediocre for an outfield clank.


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    #5535049 - 04/19/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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In fewer seasons too. 'Cause Cliff's a twinky. Your Homer "monster" hits a HR every 22 ABs. That's kind of mediocre for an outfield clank.


yea wow, cliff is hurt alot OK? also 2000 more atbat is like 4 seasons.. your clearly a moron is u dont tihnk cliff floyd is a monster of a hitter. any1 who watches the game knows that he is.


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    #5535155 - 04/19/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Only a retard thinks that someone who hits a homer every 22 ABs and has a slugging percentage of .493 is a monster of a hitter. That puts him probably right about average for regular OFs. Some monster.


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    #5535789 - 04/19/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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im sorry but i take carlos beltran and cliff floyd over chipper jones & edgar rentaria the 2nd most over rated ss in the game behind jeter. beltran is one of the best players in the game period, he was considered by many, to be the best player in the game bfor he had that bad year in 05' but people forget he played hurt. cliff floyd is a monster of a home run hitter. he bats 6th. this lineup rivals the yankee lineup and we spent 100 mill less then them.




Overrated? The numbers will speak for themselves. Renteria may not be all that good defensively, but he rocks offensively batting .365. Chipper Jones, Renteria, Laroche, and Langerhans did not start yesterdays game. If they would have been in the lineup that score would have probably been 7-1 again.


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Re: Braves vs Mets [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5536055 - 04/19/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you keep pointing out that he's hurt a lot... really good players stay healthy. just my 2 cents


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    #5536565 - 04/20/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Only a retard thinks that someone who hits a homer every 22 ABs and has a slugging percentage of .493 is a monster of a hitter. That puts him probably right about average for regular OFs. Some monster.


ok bud, hes renowned around the league as a feard home run hitter. its funny cuz ur yankees tryd to get him when he was on the market.


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    #5536575 - 04/20/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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im sorry but i take carlos beltran and cliff floyd over chipper jones & edgar rentaria the 2nd most over rated ss in the game behind jeter. beltran is one of the best players in the game period, he was considered by many, to be the best player in the game bfor he had that bad year in 05' but people forget he played hurt. cliff floyd is a monster of a home run hitter. he bats 6th. this lineup rivals the yankee lineup and we spent 100 mill less then them.




Overrated? The numbers will speak for themselves. Renteria may not be all that good defensively, but he rocks offensively batting .365. Chipper Jones, Renteria, Laroche, and Langerhans did not start yesterdays game. If they would have been in the lineup that score would have probably been 7-1 again.


ok also id like to say that laroche is a garbage player who is a guess hitter. those 4 players are not nearly as talented as carlos beltran and cliff floyd, put together. the only player that is worth anything that u named is larry. all i have to say is youll see when u play us again with beltran and floyd. u cant pitch around anybody. u maybe can pitch around nady just because he has matsui protecting him. "cliff floyd is a great player, he plays injured every year if he remained healthy the guy would be going to the hall at the end of his career". that comes from harold reynolds and peter gammons. enough said.


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    #5538071 - 04/20/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"that comes from harold reynolds and peter gammons. enough said. "

Enough said indeed, two ass-kissing shills.

"if he remained healthy"

If frogs had wings they'd fly. Floyd is a slightly better than average corner outfielder. His every stat supports that judgement. Nothing he has ever done supports your ludicrous nonsense.

"its funny cuz ur yankees tryd to get him when he was on the market."

Fortunately they got two better ones.


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    #5540683 - 04/21/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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"that comes from harold reynolds and peter gammons. enough said. "

Enough said indeed, two ass-kissing shills.

"if he remained healthy"

If frogs had wings they'd fly. Floyd is a slightly better than average corner outfielder. His every stat supports that judgement. Nothing he has ever done supports your ludicrous nonsense.

"its funny cuz ur yankees tryd to get him when he was on the market."

Fortunately they got two better ones.


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Enough said indeed, two ass-kissing shills.


ok 2 ass kissing shills, these guys tell it like it is, also john kruck said the same thing if u want to call him an ass kissing shill. i love it, cliff floyd batted .280 hit 34 hr and drove in 98 runs if people got on base last year he would have driven in about 130, those are pretty mediocre numbers there bud. your statements just make me think more of how much you dont know about the game of baseball. maybe if floyd took steroids like sheffield he wouldnt be hurt as much. yea if he remained healthy cliff would be in the hall at the end of his career he is that talented.
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His every stat supports that judgement


he plays hurt! allll the time. what dont you understand about that? what does that have to do with a guys talent level? when he is in the lineup he is as dangerous of a hitter as any outfielder in the game. and BTW where do you live im just curious, r u from england?


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    #5541555 - 04/21/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't give a shit if he has Jim Ehrenreich shouting obsenities over his shoulder, the guy is a career mediocre producer and I'm damn glad the Yanks didn't get stuck with that stiff. Like the man said, you can't produce if you're on the trainers table. Fuck, didn't he miss every game while we were arguing?


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