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theuser
DON'T LOOK

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"What do you deserve in your life?"
Everything I can get my hands on.
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fireworks_god
Sexy.Butt.McDanger


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: mr_kite]
#5525300 - 04/17/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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mr_kite said: Well the "starving third-world country" test is one of the easiest ways to question (or deny) the existance of a loving God...
Who here is discussing the existance of a loving God? 
We are discussing how one's actions within reality inevitably lead to the results of those interactions. One presses a door bell, and it rings. Cause and effect. Simple. Now, what's the problem?
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Dude I think we'll have to agree to disagree cos really I just can't think the way you do.
I know, I know, I'm inimitable. 
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If you toned down your English, which is frequently gramatically poor and quite confusing
I maintain that my grammaticism is rich and affluent. Unless you can demonstrate exactly how it is that my usage of the English language is objectively confusing, and that said confusion isn't simply the result of your own inability to understand my usage of the English language, then your point has no merit.
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, stopped using such big words and trying to appear smarter than you are,

I express myself as I naturally express myself. My understanding of the English language is what it is, and my application of that understanding occurs as a result. I do not concern myself with my intellectual appearance, as I am merely interested in openly discussing and exchanging ideas for the advancement of my own and others understanding of reality.
Would you take my word for it? How the fuck would you know who and what I am? Because I used this word or said that statement? Please consider becoming a psychologist, as your analysis of my character is priceless.
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and just got your point across without all the posing and quasi-intellectual bullshit then maybe we could have a more coherent discussion.
My point could not be conveyed if I restricted my expressions as they are naturally formed in order to dumb them down to a level whereat the lowest common denominator can understand. "Like, dude, whatever". How profound!
You tell me that I need to simplify my communications, well, I tell you that you need to advance yours.
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"If one was actually devoted to not starving, then one wouldn't starve. " And take yourself seriously? That's one of the least intelligent things I've heard for ages.
As I have already stated, devoting oneself to a certain act is to perform and engage in that act. If one was devoted to not starving, then, obviously, one would be consuming food.
If one consumes an adequate amount of food necessary to survive, then one doesn't starve!
Oh. my. fucking. god. Cause and effect. Where is the intelligence in that? 
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I await your reply dotted with smiling smileys and self-satisfied smugness
D'uh d'uh d'uh
Ahh yes, the age old commentary on the usage of emoticons. 
Honestly, anyone with a sense of humor doesn't have a problem with them. 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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fireworks_god
Sexy.Butt.McDanger


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: theuser]
#5525306 - 04/17/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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theolduser said: "What do you deserve in your life?"
Everything I can get my hands on.
Exactly, as it is the act of getting your hands on it that defines that one deserves it, as one has devoted oneself towards getting one's hand on it!
But I've been informed that such is the least intelligent comment ever. 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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PhanTomCat
Teh Cat....


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5527364 - 04/17/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What Do You Deserve?
I deserve nothing.... Simply put....
I spend time working towards things I need and want in life, sometimes I get those things, sometimes I don't.... Sometimes I spend time (working) on hobbies that can bring me self satisfaction, sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't....
Do I deserve what I get...? No.... I do however appreciate it when I work for something and get a desired result.... Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't....
Somehow I see it as separate from deserving anything.... 
>^;;^<
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly


Registered: 06/13/04
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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5527373 - 04/17/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The idea of "deserving" anything is flawed. You don't deserve shit. Neither do I. Make your reality...don't feel that you must be worthy.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Veritas

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Yes, I agree with you on the standard definition of "deserve." What I found interesting was that the etymology indicated that "worthy" is not an accurate definition.
What do you think of the idea that what we SERVE is what we "deserve"? That it is really not about whether we are worthy or not, but about our focus and action being aligned with our stated goals and values?
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fresh313
journeyman


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5528462 - 04/18/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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LunarEclipse
Enlil's Official Story


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5530745 - 04/18/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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On Tuesday I will give two weeks notice at my current job. I have arranged to work part-time as a nanny while I build my client base for my bookkeeping business. The consequences of these choices will be exactly what I deserve.
Tuesday afternoon. Did you give notice, did you get what you deserve?
-------------------- Anxiety is what you make it.
Edited by LunarEclipse (04/18/06 07:43 PM)
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BuddahKillah
U WANTFITE!?!?!?!?!?!

Registered: 10/15/04
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I deserve to be punished. Punish me.
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Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5535294 - 04/19/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Veritas said: Yes, I agree with you on the standard definition of "deserve." What I found interesting was that the etymology indicated that "worthy" is not an accurate definition.
What do you think of the idea that what we SERVE is what we "deserve"? That it is really not about whether we are worthy or not, but about our focus and action being aligned with our stated goals and values?
I think that this is less cut and dried than one might suppose. I agree that when ones focus and action are in line with their "stated goals and values" that they will more easily acheive their end. BUT I have a problem with "deserve". http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=deserve It implies either reward or punishment is being meted out in a moral sense. It is possible that one can become prosperous "serving" up many unsavory things. Many military commanders order men to their deaths and go to bed at night .....even eventually to their grave....comvinced that they had served mankind in a positive sense. These people may be convinced that they are morally enlightened people. They may never suffer one negative consequence for their action. On the contrary many forgotten people have died in the moral service of others having recieved little or no reward.
In the end there is only intent or lack of it. Those possesing intent will acheive their goals, while those who do not will fail. If you have intent your actions will be naturally in line with your goals. I do get your point, but I have a hard time getting past "deserve".
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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BlueCoyote
Beyond


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: BlueCoyote]
#5536762 - 04/20/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very good answers so far. So I will correct my statement:
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BlueCoyote said: What Do You Deserve? All or nothing ?
All and nothing.
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Veritas

Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 11,089
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My last day is May 3!
I'll have 1.5 weeks vacation between old job & self-employment. (Exactly what I "deserve." )
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LunarEclipse
Enlil's Official Story


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5538200 - 04/20/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vacation? Vacation? Vacation?
(Kind of like the real estate thing with location)
Good news you are already self employed the bad news is the work starts today.
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Veritas

Registered: 04/15/05
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Yes, but my boss is AWESOME!
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Ettin
Stranger

Registered: 03/28/06
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As the great philosopher ashkus sheekus said:
My balls on your chin.
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Veritas

Registered: 04/15/05
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redgreenvines said: i deserve somebody really rich to love me unconditionally and to give me a whack of dough so as to keep me in a painting studio instead of writing software for a living, which is second best, and if nothing else - i guess I deserve to continue doing that and making wiggy comments on these boards when I get a chance.
Yes, that all sounds good.
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LunarEclipse
Enlil's Official Story


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5540514 - 04/21/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Yes, but my boss is AWESOME!"
Well duh, you are both on vacation! 
When I became self-employed my boss was great at first and then he turned into a real slave driving asshole! After I threatened to quit and he knew I was serious he lightened up a little. We take more breaks now.
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Veritas

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Me myself Me myself and i
My ship's been tossed about Have some decency The only friends i've got left Are my idiosyncrasies
Me myself Me myself and i
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LunarEclipse
Enlil's Official Story


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Re: What Do You Deserve? [Re: Veritas]
#5540532 - 04/21/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The only friends i've got left Are my idiosyncrasies
Perhaps a new CD "Idiosyncranicity" with me myself and i on drums singing and making other weird noises is called for...
-------------------- Anxiety is what you make it.
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