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Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans?
#5520361 - 04/16/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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After practicing casing time and time again and having multiple successes, I've decided to up my production with some horse poo. I currently have 7 quart jars of Koh Samui strain on WBS incubating at 82.4-83 degrees. I also placed an order with Tenn-stud yesterday for 10lbs of pre-pasteurized hpoo.
I'll be using a 58qt (55L) clear Sterlite tub for the grow and I want to make sure I get the holes cut right and the right amount of polyfill. Here are some pics of my plan

...assuming that 10lbs of hpoo will give me a 5 inch substrate/spawn height in this size tub. I'm debating on using coir/verm or ordering some premade peat/verm/Ph buffer from medium-mania. Which do you think would be better for a first time bulk grower to get a decent pin set?
Also, I'd like to cut a hole in the lid as shown,

and duct tape some sort of hard, translucent material to allow light to enter only from the top (the heavy duty black trash bag in the bottom takes care of that too, right?)
Am I correct with the size of the holes, and the placement? What should I change? Also, I don't have a drill bit for it or a dremel, or anything that would make the cuts easier. I've tried melting them out with my soldering iron before, but to no avail. It's way too time consuming and sloppy. Is there any easier and accurate way to cut the holes and the top open?
It would really help if I could know just how high the substrate will be so I can cut my holes and prepare the tub before the poo gets here. Would 5-6" be a practical height for the bottom of each hole in this particular tub?
Edited by Newbie (04/16/06 07:49 AM)
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5520556 - 04/16/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everything looks fine with your plans. As for needing a drill or dremel tool, buy it at wally world and return it when you are done. You can get jiffy mix there too to use as a casing mix rather than paying shipping charges for the medium mania stuff.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: FooMan]
#5520573 - 04/16/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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heat up the end of an empty can (like canned goods type can) and when its real hot, push it through the tub.
voilla, perfect holes of the same size.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: krnfan145970]
#5520580 - 04/16/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's the best diameter hole to use, and how many per side? 2-3 on top and 2-3 on bottom?
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5520584 - 04/16/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i hear alot about 3/4" holes, but I'm not sure but, i would but at least 2 in both sides, but you should probably do 3. the more Fae the better.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: krnfan145970]
#5520597 - 04/16/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I recommend 2 holes for each side at 1 inch above the casing level and 2 holes for each side at the top of the tub. Hole size recommendation is 1"-1 1/4". I also recommend 6-8 inches of space between the top and bottom holes to prevent air stagnation. If the holes are too close together, you may find that the air will not flow through the tub.
Your plans look solid, however the hole at the top of the container is not required since you are using a clear tub. Having a hole in the top will not hurt mind you, but not required unless you are using an opaque tub.
A 4" substrate is more than enough to produce some monster fruits. I've gotten monster fruits using 1 1/2" substrate when manure is my substrate. Using 5-6 inches of substrate is overkill and a waste in my opinion. Drill your holes at the level in which you want to end up with, plus an inch. If you want a 4 inch substrate and a 1/2 inch casing layer, drill your holes at 5 1/2 inches. Having the poly-fill right at the casing will interfere with the fruits. You may find fruits growing into your poly-fill or casing sticking to it.
The extra inch helps with this, but does not prevent it entirely. Good luck.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: krnfan145970]
#5520600 - 04/16/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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krnfan145970 said: i hear alot about 3/4" holes, but I'm not sure but, i would but at least 2 in both sides, but you should probably do 3. the more Fae the better.
Be careful with that. The more fresh air you have the more likely you are to dry out your casing layer. Remember, the mono tub is set and forget. You do not fan or mist a mono or double tub. Dry out your casing layer and your flush will suffer as a result.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Wronguy]
#5520616 - 04/16/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for your detailed explanation, it definitely cleared up a lot. I figured the top hole would help because I want them to grow straight up, not out to the side but I guess since the translucent part is above the casing layer it won't matter.
So 4" is plenty? I'm hoping this 10lb sack of poo is enough for 2 tubs then. I'd rather have more quantity than bigger mushrooms. Hell, even more and bigger would be nice 
One final question...Is it easy to go wrong with this? I'm still a little iffy and I'd hate to waste the money on the poo if I fuck it up but the whole idea of bulk neglect makes it look hard to fail.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5520697 - 04/16/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You only real chance for failure is in contaminates. If you can pasteurize the manure and successfully spawn, fruiting is eminent. Just make sure and sterilize the tub prior to laying in your substrate by wiping down the sides with alcohol. It's pretty hard to mess up. Good luck.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Wronguy]
#5520740 - 04/16/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Is it easy to go wrong with this?
Not in the slightest, esp. if you listen to Wronguy, 
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#5520771 - 04/16/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright looks like I'm set then. Thanks for you advice and expect a pictorial in the grow logs in the near future
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5521499 - 04/16/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your setup looks fine, I had a monotub and was suprised how easy it was once I set it up. It really is a set and forget.
I will be doing one in the near future and thought to revise my plan. I think it was agar that used foil to line the tub. That way once the casing starts to shrink, it will pull in the foil along with it and not let pins form on the sides. Just a thought you might want to look into.
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Gatorade]
#5521526 - 04/16/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmm..
I'd imagine it was the heavy duty stuff, right? I couldn't see flakey tinfoil staying in place around a 3.5" casing. Is this instead of the trashbag?
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5521572 - 04/16/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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This will be convenient too, becuase when it's time to incubate my spawn mix I can just plop this right into my TiT and put the lid on, ensuring a sterile environment, no light, and a constant incubating temp.
Am I to: A) Mix the poo and wbs in the mono-tub, then incubate that?
Or am I: B) Not supposed to have any air exchange during the incubating in which case I incubate in another tub without holes then transfer that colonized poo spawn into the mono..?
Edited by Newbie (04/16/06 04:16 PM)
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Re: Can you please review my mono-tub bulk grow plans? [Re: Newbie]
#5525099 - 04/17/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Read Wronguy's writeup for the double tub. Everything (besides a second tub) is the same for a monotub setup. The writeup explains everything you need to do.
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