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Offlinehitabowl75
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casing wild bird seed
    #5519226 - 04/15/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

last night i was ready to case my colonized straw when i noticed it had green mold through out it. I trashed it . @ weeks work down the drain but at least i learned a little. Right now i just need to se som shrooms grow as a confidence builder. I have 14 quart jars of wild bird seed thats fully colonized. I used the 50 / 50 coco coir, and verm. casing mix i made up for the straw and put a 1/2 deep layer in the bottom of o black tray you use for garden plants. On top of this i poured 5 jars of seed. Then i put on another 1/2 of cqasing material. I bought a humidity dome thats about 12" high that snaps right on top of the tray. I then slid it into my closet where is around 75 degrees. Is this going to work using the methods i described. And what do i do next besides wait . Do i need to mist the dome any to increase humidity. I can make a incubator if i need but i figured that would be warm enough for them. Im pretty sad about my straw so im hoping this works.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: hitabowl75]
    #5519245 - 04/15/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You need to make sure that you have plenty of FAE. You need light. And you only need to mist every couple days, but not too much. Mist only to replace the water lost from fanning. If you cut some hole in that dome and stuff with polyfil or micropore tape, you won't have to worry about fanning or misting.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: figment]
    #5519306 - 04/15/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

FAE = freguent air exchange ??

DO i want light right now or do i want to wait a little while till my casing colonizes a littl . Or should i add light now?

Also, how long till i get some shroomies.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: hitabowl75]
    #5519398 - 04/15/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

wait for the casing layer to colonize. look that up. somone eslse would explain it better for you haha. then expose to light, 12/12 ish.
FAE = fresh air exchange
you might want to consider mixing in some wet verm next time you do wbs straight. those seeds lack the ability to hold mcuh moisture. this is what i do when i don't have poo on hand. and often i even mix a tad in with poo when i do that.
edit: case should be done in 4 5 days at that temp . check in 3.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: skeletor]
    #5519718 - 04/15/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that was 4 to 5 days correct . Not 45 days.


But so far do i sound like I'm on track? Ill wait 4 or 5 days . Then patch if needed . At this time i will add a light cycle. Besides fanning is there anything else I'm missing. My humidity dome is working like a charm.if everything goes well how many days till i will see a first flush


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: hitabowl75]
    #5519797 - 04/15/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, 4 to 5 days hahah.

You have the patching bit right as well. Times vary... it could be about 5 days until you start to see pins, it can EASILY take more than 5 days though.

The more FAE the better, as long as you can keep that humidity up, give them as much fresh air as possible.

I wish you the best of luck :thumbup:


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: Psilovibe]
    #5519944 - 04/16/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Follow hyphae's pinning stategy.  If you can't find it, use the search feature.  Helped me a ton :uptosomething:


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: NuKe_HaDer]
    #5525728 - 04/17/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ive been fanning 2 times a day. Right now i just have the casing in a closet in the dark. The humidity dome is working well. It has been 3 days, and there is no sign of any myc in the casing layer. i know its to soon but my biggest question is when do i add any light. Do i wait till i see the myc in the casing layer, or do i add it now.

Nukehader -- i have Hyphaes pining strategy printed out. i did this a few weeks age . It seemed important when i read it.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: hitabowl75]
    #5525746 - 04/17/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #10991413 - 09/03/09 08:50 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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freshlyPLUMP said:
Here that is http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0

edit: lol whoops




This may sound a noobie question but can anyone tell me what is underneath the crumbled mycelium? is that manure with vermiculite? does it have to be sterilised/pressure cooked etc. I understand the WBS tek procedure, but I don't understand the process after you pour it out of the jar. If anyone can help would be greatful thanks.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: sonar]
    #10991560 - 09/03/09 09:36 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

nothing is under the myc. u can put verm but not necessary.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: feelfunny]
    #10991674 - 09/03/09 10:08 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

even i'm guilty of it lately, but man there's been a lot of old threads brought up as of recent... lol


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: feelfunny]
    #10991759 - 09/03/09 10:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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feelfunny said:
nothing is under the myc. u can put verm but not necessary.




Ah I sort of quoted the wrong comment (the problem of having a dozen windows open, damn coca tea!)

I was meant to quote this one.

but yes perhaps I meant to say was... (in reference to the the new link thread)

After WBS is 100% colonized, being shaken about and all that jazz. What exactly do you put it in after? just a tub of something like hpoo or? do you wait for it to colonise the bottom substrate first then case or do you have a casing layer aswell as a bottom substrate?

don't mean to be a necromancer but I'm guessing this sites been running for so long lately I didn't want to create another congested thread, consider it recycling :smile:


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: sonar]
    #10991771 - 09/03/09 10:30 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can do either- you can spawn the WBS to a substrate like poo, or you can case it directly (sometimes with verm mixed in) and fruit that.
You shouldn't put perlite or verm in the bottom. You start out thinking you should, like you would do with a houseplant, but it's more trouble than it's worth.


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: Doc_T]
    #10991865 - 09/03/09 10:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

if you are going to do WBS alone as a substrate, and case it, i'd use a smaller type of tub. Less than 10 gallons, IMO.

What is holding you back from doing at least straw or straw/hpoo? Pastureizing isn't that hard. I find it to be worth the extra effort for sure. At minimum i'd cut up some straw and pastureize that. Add that with the colonized WBS and case it. just my $0.02


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #21430877 - 03/19/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know ShroomPimp,,, casing grains directly may be a better bet.  Doc T said they will have better B.E than bulk.

And my thought is that they would be less likely to contam.  This is coming from a guy who just lost a mini monotub to trich.

I am planning to case my next wbs jars instead of bulk.  So, I can't say from experience but Violet never does bulk.... only casings


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Re: casing wild bird seed [Re: Jerome09]
    #21430907 - 03/19/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

this is an old thread...that was already bumped 5 years ago:lol:


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